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Internet Explorer's Successor, Project Spartan, Is Called Microsoft Edge
An anonymous reader writes: At its Build 2015 developer conference today, Microsoft announced Project Spartan will be called Microsoft Edge. Joe Belfiore, Microsoft's corporate vice president of the operating systems group, announced the news on stage, adding that Edge will have support for extensions. Edge is Microsoft's new browser shipping on all Windows 10 devices (PCs, tablets, smartphones, and so on). Belfiore explained the name as referring to "being on the edge of consuming and creating."
On the edge of relevance, more like!
For as long as you can only get the latest version of IE, or Edge or whatever, by upgrading your whole OS, it makes no sense to choose it. No other browser has such a ridiculous requirement.
So.. ME instead of IE? ME.... reminds me of Windows ME. *shudder*.
You can tell how powerful someone is by the magnitude of the crime they can commit and be able to get away with.
What's the slashdot equivalent of "shitpost?" You might have at least mentioned that it's going to have a new renderer and support for extensions, rather than just farting out a 3 sentence blurb about the name.
However, only Edge will use Microsoft’s new rendering engine of the same name. ...
Developers will be able to take their Chrome extensions or Firefox add-ons and, with “just a few changes,” bring them to Microsoft Edge. Belfiore demoed a Reddit extension originally built for Chrome, running on Microsoft Edge.
And yeah, the "Reddit extension" in question is RES (Reddit Enhancement Suite).
As it stands the only way I use I.E. is if my mouse hand decided to pull a Dr. Strangelove on me https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (for those that won't get the ref)
I mean what insanity is microsoft trying this time to get people to use it ? Hijacking other browsers display windows ?
Safari works the same way. That's why folks with older Mac hardware who aren't running the latest OS can't run the latest Safari.
Portable versions of Firefox, GIMP, LibreOffice, etc
How are people going to tell which big E means Internet?
AKA "Wow, the DMV is full of people who look different to me, because of that, I'm going to discriminate against them all".
For all the new edge use cases of extra css and js conditional statements needed to display content properly ... ducks
http://saveie6.com/
Internet Explorer lasted just about as long as the Model T (1908 - 1927 vs 1995 to 2015).
So, if browsers are like cars, Microsoft Edge the developmental-temporal (yes, I invented that phrase) equivalent of the Model A. Spiffy!
Another browser that will clog my OS alongside IE (because they aren't removing that for "legacy support"), and that I will never use.
Vivaldi is looking to be the only browser worth a damn and it's not even remotely ready to be used.
... due to the fact that Sparty has been disrespected. Bad move there, Microsoft.
I expect it will be at _an_ edge of consuming and creating, though perhaps not the _leading_ edge as they'd like us to believe.
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The last big news about Windows 10 was Spartan. Today's big news about Windows 10 is that Spartan has been re-named.
I can't tell you how excited I am. Really, I can't.
Makes job much easier for Web developers to have a more up to date and compliant browser. Grandma and Mom's do not know what a browser and will always click the blue E out of habit because of familiarity even if Chrome is installed
http://saveie6.com/
White people are a mongrel race. Get used to it.
So that the clueless people still using it don't have to buy a new computer when the Internet disappears.
Every time they're about to release, things grind to a halt?
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
why we're at it..fuck you too, you self-important, entitled, whiny little bitch, whats the matter? did mommy tell you were a special little snowflake and then you got out in the real world and now you're angry because nobody cares what you think, or who you are, or what you believe? I bet you end up in jail before any of them, and i would imagine, deservedly so.
I mean seriously, how big of a pussy are you?
for the inept generation? Too many letters and words?
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
Belfiore explained the name as referring to "being on the edge of consuming and creating."
Edge also has a very common association with other uses such as in "... near the edge of a cliff".
Large company; bad advice; who cares?; nobody apparently.
No good reason for Grandma to use Chrome anyway, or anyone else for that matter.
Edge?
Would that be named after the mobile broadband technology, the guitarist from U2 or Samsung's flagship smartphone? Why don't they give it a meaningful name that somehow relates to its function, like, er, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Mozilla, SeaMonkey... Oh, right. Failing that, why not the old, reliable pseudo Latin/Greek names: Webia, Browsium, internet startup names (MeWeb, WebBox, WeBrowse...) or even retro Unix names ('yawb', 'enie')?
In a survey of 100 programmers, 111111 thought that duck-typing was a good idea.
As in eating?
Yes because they updated IE6 Bugs so often.... /Sarcasm Off
So Microsoft Exploder is replaced with Microsoft Wedge?
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge" />
Suborbital [spaceflight] is the special olympics of spaceflight. - Rei
Sinofsky's arrogance over Windows 8 has already put Microsoft precariously proximate to the precipice. It will take more than a browser overhaul to bring people back. Agree most people will load and run their favorite browser anyway: Firefox, Chrome, Opera. Microsoft should put their effort into competing on what's important. Not what is not.
LOG SHOT. Dishelved figure in a hoodie walks down seedy downtown area. Can't see face.
ZOOM IN. It's Sinofsky, adjusts hoodie.
SMASH CUT: Car rounds corner at high speed.
CLOSE UP. Sinofsky spins and looks on in horror.
SLO-MO POV SHOT: A chair leaves the car window and flies towards the camera.
Cut to Black...
VOICE OVER: It's not enough to be an asshole. You have to be a asshole with talent.
FADE IN Apple Logo
I guess we should have seen this coming..
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Windows Idiot was much better than expected.
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Microsoft has not tried to hard to keep up with browser advancement. I have no doubt the Edge will again fall behind almost every other browser within a couple years if that. Besides the whole other problem with some still needing to use IE for enterprise. Many users have already switched to something else for a web browser. I really doubt Edge will sway many back to a Microsoft browser. So far, I have not read many who praise Spartan as it stands now. Maybe things will improve by release date?
True story: the lemming story is a false story. Disney made it up for their documentary.
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Windows ME? Nice...
I wonder if the trade mark that Ubuntu presumably has could come into legal dispute? https://www.indiegogo.com/proj...
This is what I, and some other people I know first thought about the new name. It is aptly named.
Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon what's the difference? All steal money from devs and control with walled gardens.
Tim Langdell must never learn of this.
is probably plotting right now.
Go on, Microsoft. Have a category on your website for Spartan-optimised HTML5 games. Call it "Edge Games". PLEEEEEEEEASE?
Microsoft has been wallowing in a Ballmer induced miasma since Vista, they have lost their way. And even though 7 didn't suck - how's that for damning with faint praise? - Windows 8 and 8.1 had the shithouse rats complaining about the stench.
But I'm really really hoping that they climb out of the abyss, and return the user experience to XP days, which was one where people came as close to "just doing stuff" as Microsoft ever did.
Waiting hopefully, and if they don't, it's not a huge problem, I've got my Linux and OSX machines - but maybe pappy wants a new toy, a bright shiny Windows lappy.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I spent 7 hours from installing and then updating windows 7 2 days ago on a six core machine, afterwards, I had to deal with that IE KB3038314 patch which the next day it resolved by itself.
After 8 month's use performance started dropping and applications started running sluggish so i installed the OS from scratch. No viruses(used avg and kaspersky rescue disk), it was defragged, registry was small, less than 10 applications installed, 380 GB left from 512gb HD, no personal files kept in the User Profiles, and no gaming. And I also use a Standard User account on Windows never as an Administrator. Don't keep files on your desktop or your profile will swell and you will see a huge performance hit.
MS should of just released an sp2 for windows 7 and code the next OS from scratch. Now, again, we will be paying for the same old shit(win32, com, activex, registry, ntfs) OS that has 20+ year old technology but with a brand new shiny, well, ugly looking shell.
But grittier, dark and edgy?
is if that Edge magazine is going to sue Microsoft with a trademark lawsuit like they have done before.
Newsflash: The talented asshole who ran Apple died in 2011.
As in
Lost its Edge
Over the Edge
every day,
Where are all of the "hard edge" comments?
A browser we don't need, want and would like to go away gets renamed and we celebrate like something has changed.
I doubt they completely rewrote it. Their marketing department has a long history of talking about IE standards compliance and IE's technology leadership which is well known. So why does the marketing department get a pass this time around?
I'm not going to call it Edge. It's just going to be newer versions of IE to me. They'd be better calling it "web browser" or "browser" and leave it at that. They don't need to market the thing because it hasn't been a selling point for a long long time; it's so bad they had to rebrand it to turn it back into a selling point when everything has a built-in browser on it today.
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All generalizations are false
Windows have an edge and are a pane.
So I simply refuse to install. Call it whatever you want, you m**s.
M$ Edge? That name must be coming straight out of Steve Ballmer's twisted head.
Sob!
I wonder how thoroughly they will f*ck it up. If it's as bad as active X then the pit of despair has no bottom.
opened IE. Web devs don't count.
For me it's been at least a year.
Microsoft Edgaculation
Microsoft came to a store near you and left this on your computer .... ewwwwww ....
Do I win an internet funny prize ?
Just watched the promo video. It looks f**king awesome!
Away with consumption (according to the video; writing HTML) and towards creating (according to the video; drawing a smiley face)!
The "drawing mustaches on marsupials" feating is the killer feature of a new generation of browsers.
Can your Chrome or Firefix draw mustaches on marsupials? Does it even HAVE mustaches?
Do you want to be a slave to consumption? Making webpages? While you can be the god of your own highlighted-random-text creations?
Slashdot social media options: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Jabber and Mobile Text. Why no MySpace?
So, will (or does) Spartan/Edge 1) support URLs longer than 2083 bytes (believe me, there is use for longer URLs... besides, there is no limit on their length in the http standard) 2) download foo.tgz file as foo.tgz, and not as foo.gz?
...I thought, "Does Microsoft really need to cling to Halo so much as their saving franchise they have to throw everything in it into their devices like they did with Cortana?" Now that I've heard it's called Edge, but that it's because of the sparse interface, I wonder why they didn't just stick with Spartan. That would seem to fit with a "spartan" lifestyle.
Wondering what the biggest problem is with IE? The quirks between different versions of the same browser, the speed? Was it that Microsoft fought the development of open web standards? Or is it just that using IE is slow and sucks? What are the ideological problems with IE, what are the technical problems, in a nutshell? People seem annoyed with the direction of Firefox's development, untrusting of Google's Chrome. What does that leave you? Opera?
or a phailure
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
do they have some kind of name sharing agreement? explorer's and edge's?
Yes they will. So long as Internet Explorer and Edge are both shipped as part of Windows, you'll get "Why does buttbook look different when I click on this E vs. this E?"
So it's a razor and a web browser? How's that gonna work
Same monkeys, new tree
I'm thinking that, just like each succeeding version of MS Windows was based on the same actual code base just with changes, so too will MSE be essentially MSIE under the hood PERHAPS with some cosmetic changes to make people think it's different.
Microsoft Internet Explorer by any other name is still Microsoft Internet Explorer. I suspect that they're trying - desperately trying - to dump the poor reputation their browser has but I really doubt they would want to write the software completely from scratch like Mozilla did when they went from Netscape 4.x to Netscape 6. That was a massive job that took many years before it was good.
some clarification for non-technical users:
* cortana is the new clippo, but for the browser
* microsoft edge is the new ms paint on IE
* bing is a thing no one cares about
they already left a trail of shity browsers to be left gradually obsolete, the whole point of an evergreen browser is to stop that from happening again, no we have to wait for ie11 to gradually become obsolete... fucking great
An EDGE always cuts both ways!
They say the first cut is the deepest, almost lost my job due to the General Protection Faults with Windows 3.x on top of DOS back in the day. Pathetic corporate VP did not believe Microsoft was lying when they put out their Microsoft GPF Troubleshooting Guide document to fix it. Of course you jumped through hoops for nothing, as they knew it could not be fixed when they released the guide. Like they could fix memory leak in their code...pathetic.
That GPF Troubleshooting Guide was well over 30 pages and the second time I went through it to make sure I did not miss anything took 2 1/2 hours...
The cuts I have received since with Windows 2000 ignoring settings not to update unless I authorized it.
...Microsoft Word document format changing and corrupting older Microsoft Word documents.
...unnecessary browser wars...
...ridiculously steering the standards committees in all areas, where ever possible to a proprietary Microsoft ONLY solution for profit $$$ at the expense of anything else.
...so many more... and the ones I list here are benign compared to many.
Guess Internet Explorer Browser share is finally small enough that they can get away with closely binding it to the operating system like they have wanted to do for over a decade. Of course dare not call it a 'browser' just in case.
Now Microsoft Edge. Just like a sword, an Edge always cuts both ways....looking forward to it!
Who else is looking forward to their new business model of renting the operating system monthly like a cellphone account? Renting the application monthly so if you don't pay it gets turned off and your PC, tablet, phone becomes a paper weight.
It might take years for it to show, but this monthly billing that drives the stock higher most stock market watchers profess to love, is what will ultimately kill it as a company. Not a matter of if, only when? My family sold our MS stock before the last drop...with Windows 10's payment model, the writing is on the wall. Might take 2, 3 or 4 more years...but users of software hate this business model, pay as you go monthly....businesses might love it, but there are other factors souring corporate businesses on their newer products...
...not a matter of if, only when....
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What do they have in commonOpen Source of course and NO MONTHLY FEES and risk of your PC, laptop, tablet or phone being turned into an expensive paperweight because you lost your job in your Right to Work county or state.
Nice to know you will still be able to update your resume, even if you can not pay the ever increasing monthly bill! THINK ABOUT IT!
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