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Re:Grant whores and PR scientists
You are, word for word, using the strategy Goebbels laid out. That is not a fallacy, that is a simple fact.
Actually you are incorrect. I assume you are referring to "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." He never actually said or wrote that. The link supplies the evidence, but the tipoff is that the quote is good to be true; real people never go around saying "hey, I'm evil!" because that's not how they see themselves.
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Re:Accountability
"... truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
I would really like to know why anybody (who is not playing a villain in a movie) would say such a thing? Is there any reliable source? Some dude on the Internet says no, for what it's worth.
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Führerbunk
Case in point:
“Law and order”
... is a phrase that has appeal for most citizens, who, unless they themselves have a powerful grievance against authority, are afraid of disorder. In the 1960s, a student at Harvard Law School addressed parents and alumni with these words:
The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might. And the republic is in danger. Yes! danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without law and order our nation cannot survive.
There was prolonged applause. When the applause died down, the student quietly told his listeners: “These words were spoken in 1932 by Adolf Hitler.”Why don't you cite your source, and its source for the alleged quote? Hitler never warned that "the Republic is in danger". He wanted away with the Republic and never minced words about that. And the entire quote has long been debunked. (Scroll down to 4. Hitler and "Law and Order". When will web authors learn to give their sections some ids? And when will we have a universal fragment identifier syntax for links?)
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Re:Price
The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might. And the republic is in danger. Yes! danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without law and order our nation cannot survive.
There was prolonged applause. When the applause died down, the student quietly told his listeners: “These words were spoken in 1932 by Adolf Hitler.”Nice, but... Fake.
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Re:Wrong Premise
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it...." is regularly attributed to Joseph Goebbels. However, I have found no evidence that he said it. Everyone quotes everyone else, but no one ever gives a source. See: http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/falsenaziquotations.htm.
"A lie told often enough becomes truth" Vladimir Lenin.
Yeah, I've heard that before somewhere. Regardless of the source, it must be true.
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Re:Wrong Premise
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it...." is regularly attributed to Joseph Goebbels. However, I have found no evidence that he said it. Everyone quotes everyone else, but no one ever gives a source. See: http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/falsenaziquotations.htm.
"A lie told often enough becomes truth" Vladimir Lenin.
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Re:Liberty and justice
Regalia: http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/naziregalia.htm
Uniforms http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/uniforms.htm
RIAA: http://76.74.24.142/D9972A64-2FAC-2698-E24A-FB5246807065.pdf
Coincidence? I think not. -
Re:Liberty and justice
Regalia: http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/naziregalia.htm
Uniforms http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/uniforms.htm
RIAA: http://76.74.24.142/D9972A64-2FAC-2698-E24A-FB5246807065.pdf
Coincidence? I think not. -
Re:Homofunnia
Jokes about blacks, Chinese, Hispanics etc. are a staple of comedians across the board, from Carlos Mencia and Dave Chappelle to SNL, Chris Rock, the South Park team, and many others current and past. The term "nigger" may be avoided by some, but note that the grandparent post didn't use any derogatory terms. The subject matter itself is not necessarily off limits, depending partly on the nature of the joke.
The point is that humor is one way in which humans deal with uncomfortable subjects, particularly ones which they don't want to talk about directly. You can't wave a magic wand and make people's prejudices disappear, but making them laugh about a subject can be the next best thing. It can have the effect of making the subject seem less threatening, or even poking fun at the prejudices themselves, or implicitly questioning how realistic the underlying fears are.
Of course, humor is a double-edged sword, which can be used for harm as well as good, but if you look closely at the current humor related to gays, you'll find that most of it is not actually mean-spirited, as such. It inevitably still reflects the prejudices of the people making the jokes, but it could hardly be any other way. Start worrying when you see cartoons like this one, showing Jewish tentacles around England, Russia, China, and the U.S., which reflects the mentality behind the Nazi atrocities in WWII.