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Re:Michael Crichton just said...Not only that, but the "warnings" for global cooling and now global warming are coming from the same individuals.
Untrue, at least as far as the scientific community is concerned. See Was an imminent Ice Age predicted in the '70's?
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Re:Newsweek's MUST READ article on climate changePlease note this is form the mid 1970's.
If you "must read" this 30 year old journalistic fluff, you should also read William Connelley's summary of the 70's ice age scare.
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Re:a group with a history of mucking in politics
They're also the same group that warned everyone of Global Cooling back in the 1970's
No, they're not. On the global cooling issue, the NAS said in 1975"Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions."
which was an entirely true statement.
Why not read a thorough debunking of the "1970s Scientists predicted Ice Age" myth. -
Re:Kind of emphasizes a major point.
before then it was Global Cooling.
Jesus Christ, will this myth never die?
Yes some people thought this, and said.
No, no credible scientist ever predicted an oncoming anthropogenic Ice Age. -
Re:What happened to the ice age?
Do I have to find you the references? No.
Yes, you do. You made the claim, you back it up. Simple as that. Now, I can back up my claim with fully referenced sites litke this. Can you?
Also, I think you are mistaking my statements as dismissive of global-warming. Try a little balance.
No, I am considering your statements as profoundly lazy; I get the impression that you believe anything that supports what you think you know and reject anything different without bothering to look into it.
I am wondering what changed scientist's minds when they had rock-solid evidence a mere 20 or so years ago that we were going into an ice-age
There was never any 'rock solid' evidence, it was never a consensus, and a couple of pop-science articles about a potential ice age appeared circa 1974, closer to 30 than 20 years ago. I'd suggest here for some more reading; you may still disagree, but at least you might be informed.
Based on that, can we trust that global-warming is real?
Because it is massively backed by several different avenues of scientific research (paleoclamatology, recent measurements, physics calculations, modelling, etc.).
How much of your own global-warming fanaticism (see your previous post as an example) is shaped by the media?
None. I'm a geoscientist and computer modeller by training. I regard most of the mainstream media's science, energy and environmental reporting as criminally underinformed, frequently outright wrong and almost invariably misleading.
I've heard the ozone-hole above the pole has started to shrink... Wasn't that one of the indicators of global-warming?
No.
..bleat on like other sheep..Wait a minute - you're the one mindlessly repeating the old '1970s ice age prediction. And then accusing me of being a fanatic when I point out just how wrong that statement is on so many levels.
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Re:Correlation != Causation
why is the above moderated +4? the fact taht he believes the myth that an Ice Age was predicted in the 70's by by mainstream science(it wasn't) is alone enough to mod him down not up. besides that, he dismissively refers to climate change scientists as simply "crackpot hippies" out for grant money. anyone so pathetically clueless about the actual scientific process and painstaking research that actually goes into climate modeling deserves to be modded apropriately DOWN.
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Re:Penumatic Railways.
Which in turn was inspired by this even older idea.
The highest speed recorded was 70 mph (112 kph) with a train of 28 tons (28,450kg).
Not bad for 1848. -
Re:I wish they'd make up their minds...
Wow... is the psuedoscientific industry so desparate that Newsweek is now a source of scientific information?
For those who are interested, in the 70's it was predicted that the earth's climate would start to cool slightly (due to several longterm cycles). Now the effects of global warming would easily outweigh this cooling effect, so global cooling isn't really a concern. However has been misused by several antiscience lobby groups to attack climatic science.
Another variation of this claim is about scientists predicting a coming ice age. This is untrue.