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Why does the SQ, the SPVM and the OPP all wants a copy of this useless boondoggle ? and by the way the goal was not to catch anyone but to reduce risk in case of domestic violence and mental health issues...

Which it has failed to do completely. In canada the vast majority aren't firearms, they're physical assaults. And the vast majority of gun offences are with hand guns. So, why do you want to use something that has done nothing but cost money? And has done nothing but to track lawfully abiding citizens who were already abiding the firearms laws on non-restricted, restricted, and forbidden weapons?

You do not hear about non event. You can only look at statistic and Edmonton is the city with the highest murder rate in Canada. And they have the one only police chief oppose to the register. If I was looking for efficiency in policing I would be looking at Guelph city and Quebec city and avoiding the western style of law enforcement like the failure it is... http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2011001/article/11523-eng.pdf

Equality before the law is....

Already exists. What you're looking for is exemption outside of the law.

Do I have to remind you that marriage is part of the civil law and that there are no laws to propagate this obligation to religions.

Agreed, the HRC should be dissolve and existing laws and tribunal used instead...

I'm guessing you don't know what you're talking about. Since that's exactly what the HRC has already done. Go read up about s.13, get back to me.

Since when did the HRC (are we both talking about the Canadian Human Rights Commission) disband ?

I you ask me we should vitrify that place and just forget about it and never try to create a state using force again!

Balfour.

It is called dark humour, not every one likes it... Who would be stupid enough to detonate enough material to vitrify the whole middle east, it would provoke a nuclear winter ;)

Just like your post and mine !

Right...

It's called honesty...

Send Buddy over to my department. I am willing to assume the company's Duty to Accommodate - plus it will help mitigate the Undue Hardship I'm experiencing in trying to locate 'The Really Good Shit' porn. I need a professional.

Just when you think I'm being a smart-ass, this isn't as far out there as you might think. I understand the motovation(s) for this sort of governance, but the implementation is getting pretty whacky. From the Canadian Human Rights Commissions website:

So my contribution to diversifying sexual orientation is that I wanna monkey spank all day sitting at my desk. Where's the beef? ... [Slaps Head]

http://www.chrc-ccdp.ca/preventing_discrimination/ page1-en.asp

Say it with me: Equality is an abstract goal, not an existing achievement.

Ah, for mod points... Truth is, I don't even think that equality is a goal, I think balance is really the goal. The average person thinks that "equality is a good" thing and therefore that "inequality is bad". The truth (of course), is that the only good thing is balance.

We've all heard the one-sided crusades for "equality": more women in field X, more aboriginals in field Y, more people with disabilities in field Z. These cries are all backed by the concept (here in Canada) of "Employment Equity", which somehow deems that 50% of our population need special treatment and consideration in all fields of employment.

Personally, I don't want half of my firefighters to be women, I want almost all of them to be male. And I don't want half of my nurses being men, especially in a something like a peds ward. Kids under 5 just respond better to women than men. Likewise, I'm OK with the fact that elementary schools have more female teachers and high schools have more male teachers. (pay issues aside)

In terms of money, I'm OK with the fact that some people are "poor" or "live below the poverty line". There is a very complex balance to be had, and though I may complain about that balance (or distribution), I'll in no way complain that it is "unfair b/c it's not equal".

"Employment Equity" occassionally has "and Diversity" tacked on the end. But the very concept implies that (for example) women are not treated fairly with regards to job selection. Of course, definitions for "fair" may vary widely and some people will equate "fair" with "equal" and hey we're back to our equality conundrum.

Point is, the standard math definition of equality simply does not apply to most real-life scenarios, it's all distributions and averages, medians and means. I just wish this was understood when we started talking about "both sides of the story". </soapbox>

Canadian Bill of Rights.

The Bill recognizes the following freedoms:

"1. It is hereby recognized and declared that in Canada there have existed and shall continue to exist without discrimination by reason of race, national origin, colour, religion or sex, the following human rights and fundamental freedoms, namely:

      1. the right of the individual to life, liberty, security of the person and enjoyment of property, and the right not to be deprived thereof except by due process of law;
      2. the right of the individual to equality before the law and the protection of the law;
      3. freedom of religion;
      4. freedom of speech;
      5. freedom of assembly and association;
      6. freedom of the press."

It also states that no law - unless it expressly says so - shall be interpreted or applied in a way that violates the rights recognized by the Bill.

We've only had it on the books since 1960, so it may not have trickled down to your neck of the woods yet.

There is no great need to look for examples, as many of them are listed on the Canadian Human Rights commission's own website. (Under the "proactive initiatives" section, no less.) Some cool examples:

"Tribunal level

On July 18, 1996, the Mayor's Committee on Community and Race Relations (the Mayor's Committee) filed a complaint with the Commission alleging that Mr. Zündel was placing messages on the World Wide Web likely to expose people to hatred or contempt based on a prohibited ground of discrimination, contrary to subsection 13(1) of the Act. "

As we can see here, the standard is inciting "hatred or contempt" (I.e. basic human emotions), no violence whatsover, nor any incitement is required. Clearly, we are talking about pure mindcrime.

"By the early 1990s, the Heritage Front had become the mo
st public and powerful of Canada's white supremacist groups. It served as an umbrella group and a clearing house for the extreme right in Canada. Its primary recruitment tool was the Heritage hotline, a telephone message line eventually run by a professional marketer using sophisticated telemarketing sales techniques. Reportedly, the line received 400 to 500 calls per day.

In February 1992, the Native Canadian Centre in Toronto complained that messages on the Heritage hotline violated subsection 13(1) of the Act, by exposing persons of particular ethnic origin to hatred and contempt. *snip*"

"The Court sentenced the three individual respondents to one to three months in jail each and ordered the Heritage Front to pay a $5,000 fine."

Again, pure mindcrime. There is more at the CHRC website:

http://www.chrc-ccdp.ca/proactive_initiatives/lega l_milestones-en.asp

I shall correct you if you're wrong. The premier at the time (not premiere) was Rene Levesque.

Duplesis was a right-wing nutter who was the premier of Quebec in the 1950s trying to run the province like it was his little fiefdom as well as keeping the population under the thumb of the Catholic Church. The court case that stopped his abuse of executive power to harass citizens is still used in constitutional cases to this day.

Levesque was a chain-smoking left-wing nutter who was played for a fool by Trudeau during the repatriation process.

The Quebec Government was pretty miffed over the patriation deal, but I think those wounds are healed because the seperatist government of Quebec (PQ) has negotiated constitutional amendments in the 1990s to secularise schools in Montreal & Quebec City. I also think the rifts between the federal and provincial governments are healed more now that Quebec has a Liberal government.