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Re:All except Washington
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Re:Scientific review
Don't rely on stories. It's better to rely on data. Best of all if the data is presented in a nice way, such as here.
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Re:Where's the beef?
CO2 outpaces worst-case scenarios yet the heat doesn't show up.
I can't tell if you're trolling, or if you're actually that fucking ignorant.
Perhaps the computer models were wrong*. [* actually, computer models give you whatever result you want if you tweak them the right way, so they technically, they gave the 'right' results]
Likewise, climate models are designed to simulate the physicsof the global ecosystem, and not just perform statistical regressions.
Perhaps next time you might consider having the slightest fucking clue of what you're talking about before joining a discussion with adults?
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Re:AGW
There have already been some reviews of the paper. Here are a couple:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/07/misdiagnosis-of-surface-temperature-feedback/
http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/global-warming-debunked-or-not/
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Re:Late to the party?
You are an idiot. Food/Resource shortages are real. I'm in agriculture, on the animal production side, and I can assure you that there is a finite amount of corn available, and corn based ethanol production is resulting in higher demand. We've always produced more corn than was needed domestically, and much of the excess was then shipped overseas. The current trends for corn production and domestic corn use for human food, animal food, and ethanol production are going to reach a point where we don't have enough corn to meet all 3 and still export any. That won't cause (much) starvation here, only among those that are already finding it hard to afford enough food to eat (a real problem that is getting worse even if it is better than in other countries). However, decreased exports will lead to food shortages in other countries that have become dependent on US grain to feed their populace. That the starvation won't be happening in your neighborhood, doesn't mean it won't be happening.
As much as I agree with the sentiment that waste is a real problem that needs to be addressed, it is not sufficient to solve the problem. Current projections that get trotted out at every agriculture related meeting I've attended in the last 5 years are that we are going to need to Double Global Food Production by 2050. Not just here in the US, but everywhere. Decreasing waste would help push that doubling deadline back, but we don't waste 50% of our food now, so even if we eliminated waste completely (which is impossible) we still would need to increase food production from the current levels.
Ideally, the necessary increases in food production would be coming from countries that are currently dependent on handouts from countries like the US. However, the underlying problems in those countries, which people have been trying to fix for decades, are not likely to be fixed overnight. The US feeds far more people than live within its borders. You may not like our policies (I don't like some of our policies), but that doesn't change the reality that 35% of domestic corn production in the 2008 to 2009 market year was used for ethanol production compared with only 21% in 2007. This 14-point increase is despite corn production during the 2008-2009 year being the second hightest ever. If we have a bad corn year, which will happen eventually, none of the industries that depend on corn are going to require any less and corn prices are going to skyrocket again. That will lead to increased food costs in stores, and increased hunger/starvation inside the US. We need to get away from using food for fuel and I'm glad to see that cellulosic ethanol is finally getting competetive.