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Dilbert comments
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Re:Someone explain this to me
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Re:My head just exploded.
Geez, it took *forever* (like 2mins - an eternity in internet time) to find out what a Godwin is.
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dilbert's experience with random number generators
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Re:The incompetence of goverment....So let me get this straight, you state as a fact that the US government is incompetent and that because of this incompetence they can't maintain a conspiracy worth dick. If this is your theory what's to make you say that Roswell incident wasn't a royal US fuck-up?
The "RAAF issued a press release stating that personnel from the field's 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed 'flying disc' from a ranch near Roswell'." [1] Then later the same day "the Commanding General of the Eighth Air Force stated that, in fact, a weather balloon had been recovered ... rather than a flying saucer." [1]
And this isn't the only example. Actually it's impressive how many times the US government has dropped the ball when it's come to UFOs.
Here's a quick-list:- Project Twinkle - In Dec 1948 a strange new phenomenon was repeatedly observed in the southwestern skies of the US near top secret nuclear weapon research sites. The phenomenon consisted of bright green lights moving, generally, horizontally though the night sky and then dropping downward slightly and going out. After these had been observed many times in the late 1948 and early 1949 Dr. Lincoln La Paz, a famous meteoriticist, declared that they weren't normal meteors. He told the Air Force and the FBI that if these weren't special devices resulting from our own US research that they might be Russian and were a potential threat to vital nuclear weapon research installations. An investigation began March 1950 under the direction of Dr. Anthony Mirachi. Over the course of the year, using a series of cinetheodolites, the team was able to determine the objects were traveling at an "altitude of ~150K ft" (or ~28.5 miles high, much higher than any man-made craft could fly at that point in time), were "30 ft in diameter"[2], and traveling at an "undeterminable, yet high speed." A year and a half later the project was no closer to identifying the objects and the project was shelved.
What's interesting is how it was shutdown.
In November, 1951, Dr. Elterman, the new project Director (Mirachi retired in 1950[3]), who also worked at the Atmospheric Physics Laboratory (APL) of the Geophysical Research Division (GRD) of the Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratory (AFCRL), wrote the final report.
According to Dr. Elterman's report, Project Twinkle was a dismal failure: "no information was gained." He recommended it be discontinued. His recommendation was accepted. But was it a failure? Was "no information gained?" The data reduction report (now unclassified [2]) tracked and measured four unidentified objects near the White Sands Proving Grounds!
In contrast to Dr. Elterman's report the original director, Dr. Anthony Mirachi, responded to a Feb, 1951 Time's article written in collaboration with Dr. Urner Liddel of the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington D.C. debunking UFOs, saying:
"There was too much evidence in favor of saucers to say they could have all been balloons. 'I was conducting the main investigation. The government had to depend on me or my branch for information.' He said he did not see how the Navy (i.e., Dr Liddel) could say that there had been no concrete evidence on the existence of the phenomena." [4]
Dr. Mirachi, included classified details about Project Twinkle which nearly landed him in very hot water (source contains more details). [5]
- Project Twinkle - In Dec 1948 a strange new phenomenon was repeatedly observed in the southwestern skies of the US near top secret nuclear weapon research sites. The phenomenon consisted of bright green lights moving, generally, horizontally though the night sky and then dropping downward slightly and going out. After these had been observed many times in the late 1948 and early 1949 Dr. Lincoln La Paz, a famous meteoriticist, declared that they weren't normal meteors. He told the Air Force and the FBI that if these weren't special devices resulting from our own US research that they might be Russian and were a potential threat to vital nuclear weapon research installations. An investigation began March 1950 under the direction of Dr. Anthony Mirachi. Over the course of the year, using a series of cinetheodolites, the team was able to determine the objects were traveling at an "altitude of ~150K ft" (or ~28.5 miles high, much higher than any man-made craft could fly at that point in time), were "30 ft in diameter"[2], and traveling at an "undeterminable, yet high speed." A year and a half later the project was no closer to identifying the objects and the project was shelved.
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Re:The incompetence of goverment....So let me get this straight, you state as a fact that the US government is incompetent and that because of this incompetence they can't maintain a conspiracy worth dick. If this is your theory what's to make you say that Roswell incident wasn't a royal US fuck-up?
The "RAAF issued a press release stating that personnel from the field's 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed 'flying disc' from a ranch near Roswell'." [1] Then later the same day "the Commanding General of the Eighth Air Force stated that, in fact, a weather balloon had been recovered ... rather than a flying saucer." [1]
And this isn't the only example. Actually it's impressive how many times the US government has dropped the ball when it's come to UFOs.
Here's a quick-list:- Project Twinkle - In Dec 1948 a strange new phenomenon was repeatedly observed in the southwestern skies of the US near top secret nuclear weapon research sites. The phenomenon consisted of bright green lights moving, generally, horizontally though the night sky and then dropping downward slightly and going out. After these had been observed many times in the late 1948 and early 1949 Dr. Lincoln La Paz, a famous meteoriticist, declared that they weren't normal meteors. He told the Air Force and the FBI that if these weren't special devices resulting from our own US research that they might be Russian and were a potential threat to vital nuclear weapon research installations. An investigation began March 1950 under the direction of Dr. Anthony Mirachi. Over the course of the year, using a series of cinetheodolites, the team was able to determine the objects were traveling at an "altitude of ~150K ft" (or ~28.5 miles high, much higher than any man-made craft could fly at that point in time), were "30 ft in diameter"[2], and traveling at an "undeterminable, yet high speed." A year and a half later the project was no closer to identifying the objects and the project was shelved.
What's interesting is how it was shutdown.
In November, 1951, Dr. Elterman, the new project Director (Mirachi retired in 1950[3]), who also worked at the Atmospheric Physics Laboratory (APL) of the Geophysical Research Division (GRD) of the Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratory (AFCRL), wrote the final report.
According to Dr. Elterman's report, Project Twinkle was a dismal failure: "no information was gained." He recommended it be discontinued. His recommendation was accepted. But was it a failure? Was "no information gained?" The data reduction report (now unclassified [2]) tracked and measured four unidentified objects near the White Sands Proving Grounds!
In contrast to Dr. Elterman's report the original director, Dr. Anthony Mirachi, responded to a Feb, 1951 Time's article written in collaboration with Dr. Urner Liddel of the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington D.C. debunking UFOs, saying:
"There was too much evidence in favor of saucers to say they could have all been balloons. 'I was conducting the main investigation. The government had to depend on me or my branch for information.' He said he did not see how the Navy (i.e., Dr Liddel) could say that there had been no concrete evidence on the existence of the phenomena." [4]
Dr. Mirachi, included classified details about Project Twinkle which nearly landed him in very hot water (source contains more details). [5]
- Project Twinkle - In Dec 1948 a strange new phenomenon was repeatedly observed in the southwestern skies of the US near top secret nuclear weapon research sites. The phenomenon consisted of bright green lights moving, generally, horizontally though the night sky and then dropping downward slightly and going out. After these had been observed many times in the late 1948 and early 1949 Dr. Lincoln La Paz, a famous meteoriticist, declared that they weren't normal meteors. He told the Air Force and the FBI that if these weren't special devices resulting from our own US research that they might be Russian and were a potential threat to vital nuclear weapon research installations. An investigation began March 1950 under the direction of Dr. Anthony Mirachi. Over the course of the year, using a series of cinetheodolites, the team was able to determine the objects were traveling at an "altitude of ~150K ft" (or ~28.5 miles high, much higher than any man-made craft could fly at that point in time), were "30 ft in diameter"[2], and traveling at an "undeterminable, yet high speed." A year and a half later the project was no closer to identifying the objects and the project was shelved.
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Re:The incompetence of goverment....So let me get this straight, you state as a fact that the US government is incompetent and that because of this incompetence they can't maintain a conspiracy worth dick. If this is your theory what's to make you say that Roswell incident wasn't a royal US fuck-up?
The "RAAF issued a press release stating that personnel from the field's 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed 'flying disc' from a ranch near Roswell'." [1] Then later the same day "the Commanding General of the Eighth Air Force stated that, in fact, a weather balloon had been recovered ... rather than a flying saucer." [1]
And this isn't the only example. Actually it's impressive how many times the US government has dropped the ball when it's come to UFOs.
Here's a quick-list:- Project Twinkle - In Dec 1948 a strange new phenomenon was repeatedly observed in the southwestern skies of the US near top secret nuclear weapon research sites. The phenomenon consisted of bright green lights moving, generally, horizontally though the night sky and then dropping downward slightly and going out. After these had been observed many times in the late 1948 and early 1949 Dr. Lincoln La Paz, a famous meteoriticist, declared that they weren't normal meteors. He told the Air Force and the FBI that if these weren't special devices resulting from our own US research that they might be Russian and were a potential threat to vital nuclear weapon research installations. An investigation began March 1950 under the direction of Dr. Anthony Mirachi. Over the course of the year, using a series of cinetheodolites, the team was able to determine the objects were traveling at an "altitude of ~150K ft" (or ~28.5 miles high, much higher than any man-made craft could fly at that point in time), were "30 ft in diameter"[2], and traveling at an "undeterminable, yet high speed." A year and a half later the project was no closer to identifying the objects and the project was shelved.
What's interesting is how it was shutdown.
In November, 1951, Dr. Elterman, the new project Director (Mirachi retired in 1950[3]), who also worked at the Atmospheric Physics Laboratory (APL) of the Geophysical Research Division (GRD) of the Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratory (AFCRL), wrote the final report.
According to Dr. Elterman's report, Project Twinkle was a dismal failure: "no information was gained." He recommended it be discontinued. His recommendation was accepted. But was it a failure? Was "no information gained?" The data reduction report (now unclassified [2]) tracked and measured four unidentified objects near the White Sands Proving Grounds!
In contrast to Dr. Elterman's report the original director, Dr. Anthony Mirachi, responded to a Feb, 1951 Time's article written in collaboration with Dr. Urner Liddel of the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington D.C. debunking UFOs, saying:
"There was too much evidence in favor of saucers to say they could have all been balloons. 'I was conducting the main investigation. The government had to depend on me or my branch for information.' He said he did not see how the Navy (i.e., Dr Liddel) could say that there had been no concrete evidence on the existence of the phenomena." [4]
Dr. Mirachi, included classified details about Project Twinkle which nearly landed him in very hot water (source contains more details). [5]
- Project Twinkle - In Dec 1948 a strange new phenomenon was repeatedly observed in the southwestern skies of the US near top secret nuclear weapon research sites. The phenomenon consisted of bright green lights moving, generally, horizontally though the night sky and then dropping downward slightly and going out. After these had been observed many times in the late 1948 and early 1949 Dr. Lincoln La Paz, a famous meteoriticist, declared that they weren't normal meteors. He told the Air Force and the FBI that if these weren't special devices resulting from our own US research that they might be Russian and were a potential threat to vital nuclear weapon research installations. An investigation began March 1950 under the direction of Dr. Anthony Mirachi. Over the course of the year, using a series of cinetheodolites, the team was able to determine the objects were traveling at an "altitude of ~150K ft" (or ~28.5 miles high, much higher than any man-made craft could fly at that point in time), were "30 ft in diameter"[2], and traveling at an "undeterminable, yet high speed." A year and a half later the project was no closer to identifying the objects and the project was shelved.
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Re:The incompetence of goverment....So let me get this straight, you state as a fact that the US government is incompetent and that because of this incompetence they can't maintain a conspiracy worth dick. If this is your theory what's to make you say that Roswell incident wasn't a royal US fuck-up?
The "RAAF issued a press release stating that personnel from the field's 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed 'flying disc' from a ranch near Roswell'." [1] Then later the same day "the Commanding General of the Eighth Air Force stated that, in fact, a weather balloon had been recovered ... rather than a flying saucer." [1]
And this isn't the only example. Actually it's impressive how many times the US government has dropped the ball when it's come to UFOs.
Here's a quick-list:- Project Twinkle - In Dec 1948 a strange new phenomenon was repeatedly observed in the southwestern skies of the US near top secret nuclear weapon research sites. The phenomenon consisted of bright green lights moving, generally, horizontally though the night sky and then dropping downward slightly and going out. After these had been observed many times in the late 1948 and early 1949 Dr. Lincoln La Paz, a famous meteoriticist, declared that they weren't normal meteors. He told the Air Force and the FBI that if these weren't special devices resulting from our own US research that they might be Russian and were a potential threat to vital nuclear weapon research installations. An investigation began March 1950 under the direction of Dr. Anthony Mirachi. Over the course of the year, using a series of cinetheodolites, the team was able to determine the objects were traveling at an "altitude of ~150K ft" (or ~28.5 miles high, much higher than any man-made craft could fly at that point in time), were "30 ft in diameter"[2], and traveling at an "undeterminable, yet high speed." A year and a half later the project was no closer to identifying the objects and the project was shelved.
What's interesting is how it was shutdown.
In November, 1951, Dr. Elterman, the new project Director (Mirachi retired in 1950[3]), who also worked at the Atmospheric Physics Laboratory (APL) of the Geophysical Research Division (GRD) of the Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratory (AFCRL), wrote the final report.
According to Dr. Elterman's report, Project Twinkle was a dismal failure: "no information was gained." He recommended it be discontinued. His recommendation was accepted. But was it a failure? Was "no information gained?" The data reduction report (now unclassified [2]) tracked and measured four unidentified objects near the White Sands Proving Grounds!
In contrast to Dr. Elterman's report the original director, Dr. Anthony Mirachi, responded to a Feb, 1951 Time's article written in collaboration with Dr. Urner Liddel of the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington D.C. debunking UFOs, saying:
"There was too much evidence in favor of saucers to say they could have all been balloons. 'I was conducting the main investigation. The government had to depend on me or my branch for information.' He said he did not see how the Navy (i.e., Dr Liddel) could say that there had been no concrete evidence on the existence of the phenomena." [4]
Dr. Mirachi, included classified details about Project Twinkle which nearly landed him in very hot water (source contains more details). [5]
- Project Twinkle - In Dec 1948 a strange new phenomenon was repeatedly observed in the southwestern skies of the US near top secret nuclear weapon research sites. The phenomenon consisted of bright green lights moving, generally, horizontally though the night sky and then dropping downward slightly and going out. After these had been observed many times in the late 1948 and early 1949 Dr. Lincoln La Paz, a famous meteoriticist, declared that they weren't normal meteors. He told the Air Force and the FBI that if these weren't special devices resulting from our own US research that they might be Russian and were a potential threat to vital nuclear weapon research installations. An investigation began March 1950 under the direction of Dr. Anthony Mirachi. Over the course of the year, using a series of cinetheodolites, the team was able to determine the objects were traveling at an "altitude of ~150K ft" (or ~28.5 miles high, much higher than any man-made craft could fly at that point in time), were "30 ft in diameter"[2], and traveling at an "undeterminable, yet high speed." A year and a half later the project was no closer to identifying the objects and the project was shelved.
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Re:Its EVOLUTION - geez
It could be inter-species fornication: take a look at the "woman humped to death by camel" story at http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/AFECFC7A-8BC4-4619-
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Re:What are the chances...
The example has nothing to do with 'environmentalists' - it has all to do with the first samples NASA tried to deal with back in 1976 ~ 1977 - which may have zapped anything that might have been found in the process...ooops.