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I"m sure these guys could help. Still in Dev so you could prolly get it fairly cheap and insure that they incorporated the exact features you want.

There is another way suggested here but isn't very good unless you already know what the original AMD plastic cartridge back cover looks like.

All you need is a good heat sink/fan combo. I have a dual celeron 366 running at 550 MHz 24/7 and I have yet to have any problems. My motherboard (ABIT) has TCs to monitor the temp of the CPUs and they claims my CPUs are under 100 degrees F each. I'm not too worried about smoking these puppies.

If you are worried about smoking your chips, you can always buy your Celerons from a place like computernerd.com who will give you a year guarentee they won't smoke.

BTW. The heatsink/fans I use are awsome. They are the cool-it-dudes! from computernerd.com.

later...

Quack

ps. Did I mention deal celerons rock?

All you need is a good heat sink/fan combo. I have a dual celeron 366 running at 550 MHz 24/7 and I have yet to have any problems. My motherboard (ABIT) has TCs to monitor the temp of the CPUs and they claims my CPUs are under 100 degrees F each. I'm not too worried about smoking these puppies.

If you are worried about smoking your chips, you can always buy your Celerons from a place like computernerd.com who will give you a year guarentee they won't smoke.

BTW. The heatsink/fans I use are awsome. They are the cool-it-dudes! from computernerd.com.

later...

Quack

ps. Did I mention deal celerons rock?

I ordered it on Friday from www.computernerd.com. Ok, so maby Intel should be mad at me for getting them gaurunteed overclocked to a total of 1012Mhz... I can GAURUNTEE I'll by 2 550 Celeron SIMDs if they became available and had SMP support. I figger that's going to run me about $300-400. I also know I can't afford or want a dual PIII box. I'm building a workstation for Quakeing/Mapping, thusly I don't need the extra expense of SCSI. It is hard to find a good dual slot-1 mobo that has other decent features and that is inexpensive. (like the Abit BP6).

This will be true when nVidia releases their next chipset code named NV10, which has full hardware transform and lighting acceleration...This is really going to piss Intel off...

"Ah well, someday I may buy a new system but I haven't found ample justification to spend $700 to get something like a Celeron 433 with 128 megs of ram, Abit BX6v2 motherboard, etc."

You can upgrade your system for far less; approximately $450 now that's assuming you need a new case (AT -> ATX) plus 128 megs rams. Now you dont have to take my word it, you can go to www.computernerd.com for MBoard/CPU/Case bundle and to www.mwave.com for memory and see for your self. You can also checkout www.killerapp.com for computer hardware prices.

Now me personally I plan to purchase Abit's new dual slot 370 motherboard with two 366Mhz celerons guaranteed to overclock to 550Mhz for $412....

This will be true when nVidia releases their next chipset code named NV10, which has full hardware transform and lighting acceleration...This is really going to piss Intel off...

"Ah well, someday I may buy a new system but I haven't found ample justification to spend $700 to get something like a Celeron 433 with 128 megs of ram, Abit BX6v2 motherboard, etc."

You can upgrade your system for far less; approximately $450 now that's assuming you need a new case (AT -> ATX) plus 128 megs rams. Now you dont have to take my word it, you can go to www.computernerd.com for MBoard/CPU/Case bundle and to www.mwave.com for memory and see for your self. You can also checkout www.killerapp.com for computer hardware prices.

Now me personally I plan to purchase Abit's new dual slot 370 motherboard with two 366Mhz celerons guaranteed to overclock to 550Mhz for $412....

It looks as if they might not be carrying this model any more, though - the only Peltier units I see on their Web site are for older Socket 7 Pentiums, not Pentium IIs. (The model I have is a PAP2X3B.)

I've heard that Peltier units can get cold enough to actually freeze water, which is a problem. If the system is running in too hot an environment, it may cause condensation, which is definitely not a good thing.

Need to get some high quality RAM, a case, and a HD. Oh yeah, and a "Celery Sandwich".

About the ONLY thing I'm not happy about is Intel's decision to penalize people who want to experiment with the chips THEY BUY.

I can understand that they want to stop people from remarking chips and selling them OC'ed. But locking the chip down is NOT the way to go about it. You annihilate a market of people who like to tweak the hell out of their systems. Now I can also understand that Intel isn't happy about selling 450 Mhz chips for $80 when they're trying to bleed $400 more out of people. But these people are the legitimate owners of the chips they buy. Why keep them from taking their own risks?

I'll admit. I am NOT a chip designer, but I would think it cannot be that hard to alter the standards for a chip. Have an extra register in the chip that is read at boot time. Something that would read like:

• Chip: Intel Celeron 300a
• Multiplier: 4.5 (LOCKED)
• Bus Speed: 100 Mhz
• Chip Speed: 450 Mhz

  • Even if it came up as:

  • Chip: Intel Celeron 300a
  • Chip Speed: 450 Mhz

  With such a setup, you would PHYSICALLY have to alter a chip (as opposed to just the cosmetic angle of scrubbing off the case and silk screening on another chip ID.

  Intel is attacking the wrong group of people with this. They're not hurting the remarkers any. There's TONS of 300a's out on the market and 450 Mhz will be a pretty good standard for another year or so yet. They'll still make a killing ripping people off regardless.

  Ah well. I'll take what I can get while it lasts.
  
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The new packaging is going to be nearly identical to the old PPro socket. But it won't be pin-compatible (you cannot plug a PPro into a Socket 370, and you cannot plug a new S370 Celeron into an old PPro board).

What's this going to do to Celery Sandwiches though?


Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!