Slashdot Mirror
Domain: core.org.au
Stories and comments across the archive that link to core.org.au.
Comments · 12
-
Right ..less confusion please.I was the one that first notified telstra about the list and all that jaz after the guy/group (oxyg3n) submitted the list as a story on my site.
Then the story made it to broadband.org.au and then to whirlpool (link in
Now I have put the latest article up on my site to put some facts back into this thread. No-one can prove that a Bigpond Account server was hacked - what we know is that 69 user account passwords from what predominantly appear to be to be the much troubled Telstra ADSL service have been posted on a number of sites. Just how these passwords were gathered is subject to wild speculation.
The case for a Account server failure
Most (if not all) of the accounts seem to be ADSL accounts - a Trojan should not be so selective (but it could be). There have been a LOT of troubles on the ADSL network - it is not inconceivable that something slipped hough the cracks (if just temporarily).The case against
69 passwords are wayyyy to few to consitute a large hack - all the posted lists where the same. Once posted these accounts would become useless to the cracker(s) - but not if he/she/they had access to the accounts via remote control clients.The fact remains that unless one of the affected accounts tells us that they were infected with one of those trojans or Telstra comes clean on the whole thing (hahahaha!) we remain guessing. I'll keep my site up-to-date with the info as I get it.
-- -
Right ..less confusion please.I was the one that first notified telstra about the list and all that jaz after the guy/group (oxyg3n) submitted the list as a story on my site.
Then the story made it to broadband.org.au and then to whirlpool (link in
Now I have put the latest article up on my site to put some facts back into this thread. No-one can prove that a Bigpond Account server was hacked - what we know is that 69 user account passwords from what predominantly appear to be to be the much troubled Telstra ADSL service have been posted on a number of sites. Just how these passwords were gathered is subject to wild speculation.
The case for a Account server failure
Most (if not all) of the accounts seem to be ADSL accounts - a Trojan should not be so selective (but it could be). There have been a LOT of troubles on the ADSL network - it is not inconceivable that something slipped hough the cracks (if just temporarily).The case against
69 passwords are wayyyy to few to consitute a large hack - all the posted lists where the same. Once posted these accounts would become useless to the cracker(s) - but not if he/she/they had access to the accounts via remote control clients.The fact remains that unless one of the affected accounts tells us that they were infected with one of those trojans or Telstra comes clean on the whole thing (hahahaha!) we remain guessing. I'll keep my site up-to-date with the info as I get it.
-- -
Not a hoax?The Australian Broadband Users Group (ABUG) has confirmed that this is not a hoax.
What? The site which originally broke the story (CORE) have now posted another article saying Telstra's servers were probably not cracked. Specifically:
Sub7 or some other "netbus" program has been used to leech the accounts of the users machines. This is at the moment the scenario I favour...
Sure, Telstra fucked up their ADSL network and extremely pissed off many users with their download caps, but there isn't proof yet that they screwed up on this too.
-
Not a hoax?The Australian Broadband Users Group (ABUG) has confirmed that this is not a hoax.
What? The site which originally broke the story (CORE) have now posted another article saying Telstra's servers were probably not cracked. Specifically:
Sub7 or some other "netbus" program has been used to leech the accounts of the users machines. This is at the moment the scenario I favour...
Sure, Telstra fucked up their ADSL network and extremely pissed off many users with their download caps, but there isn't proof yet that they screwed up on this too.
-
Not a hoax?The Australian Broadband Users Group (ABUG) has confirmed that this is not a hoax.
What? The site which originally broke the story (CORE) have now posted another article saying Telstra's servers were probably not cracked. Specifically:
Sub7 or some other "netbus" program has been used to leech the accounts of the users machines. This is at the moment the scenario I favour...
Sure, Telstra fucked up their ADSL network and extremely pissed off many users with their download caps, but there isn't proof yet that they screwed up on this too.
-
Curious ..This popped up a few days after I posted a similar story on my site =). The question is an important one - a lot of the businesses on the net are closing shop because of the "don't want to pay" mentality that seems to run with the net.
While not necessarily "a bad thing" this mentality can be unfair to content producers out there that are trying to recover what amounts to a fraction of their costs/time.
Scott McClouds article on this is still the most insightfull I have read in a while (perhaps because he operates with the same media as I do). Usually it takes me around 3 hours for each toon I create. Over a 5 day week this amounts to around 2 work days of tooning. Or if we put a value my time of, say, $30/hr that is $450/week in "spent time". Now I do my thing for the love of it.. I have a "regular" day job and am not dependant on cartoon payments but some people may be. As was pointed out what we need is a truely international and "reputable" (since we're dealing with money) Micropayment infrastructure.
Just my 2c worth...
-- -
Curious ..This popped up a few days after I posted a similar story on my site =). The question is an important one - a lot of the businesses on the net are closing shop because of the "don't want to pay" mentality that seems to run with the net.
While not necessarily "a bad thing" this mentality can be unfair to content producers out there that are trying to recover what amounts to a fraction of their costs/time.
Scott McClouds article on this is still the most insightfull I have read in a while (perhaps because he operates with the same media as I do). Usually it takes me around 3 hours for each toon I create. Over a 5 day week this amounts to around 2 work days of tooning. Or if we put a value my time of, say, $30/hr that is $450/week in "spent time". Now I do my thing for the love of it.. I have a "regular" day job and am not dependant on cartoon payments but some people may be. As was pointed out what we need is a truely international and "reputable" (since we're dealing with money) Micropayment infrastructure.
Just my 2c worth...
-- -
Computer Art - Process or Form ?I am not sure weather these "Art Critics" are questioning the process or the result. We need to get away from the medium. I would say that Art is in "the mind of the beholder" - in other words something, anything that is designed to make the viewer think could be art.
Cartoonists have been fighting that sort of fight for ages. Is cartooning an artform ? - heck yes! - (read Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud if you think otherwise). These days a few cartoonists (including myself =) ) use Drawing tablets and a variety of software to create what we like to think of as "art" (as well as the traditional tools). Even Scott Adams scans and cleans up his drawings on the computer.
If you created a piece of art on a A4 sheet is it art
They will need to realise that the computer is the tool, the process, not the form.
-- -
Other genomes mapped recently include...e.coli bacteria genome (that is one nasty-arse bacteria) and
Cholera (I assume mapping the genome is the same as decoding it ? I am not sure on this one)I suppose we can just sit back as people decode anything within reach - Still I don't like it when we(humans) mess with the building blocks of life - I'm sure we'll stuff soemthing up.
-- -
You will probably need corporate supportIndirectly you will be competing with OSDN (if I got the text of teh article right?) and place like that - they have corporate sized money to throw at advertisement and other site associated costs.
I run an Asia-Pac "Nerd" News site called CORE and spend a sh*tload of time just sifting though online news sites and other places of interest (enough time probably to make this a 9-5 Job). So there might be need for wages (eating is non-optional) - and where there is wages there is accountants
Makes me tired just thinking about it...
-- -
I don't know about you but I read this as ..."use any tool you like but don't tell us about it - we'll assume it was Linux".
It's the inclusion of the line "Frankly, most of us don't have a clue about how to check for violations. Just do it. We trust you." that has me wondering - it's not really needed and the whole thing would be much more effective without it so why put it there? From their point of view it would be bad press if they had to admit that Linux wasn't up to it (and arguably it can't beat the MacOS tools out there for high end stuff).There was a similar thing going on with Linux Journal and why they didn't use Linux tools to do the layout of the magazine. Doesn't mean Linux can't do the logo - I was considering using Blender which I think is capable of some good stuff (note the link is on "stuff", not "good" =)).
-- -
Another Mirror
Another mirror here for the
--