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Okay, got some links that suggest passenger occupancy rate is ~1.13

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Fairly indicative of a misuse of vehicles. I'd doubt that they adjusted for tradesmen vehicles that only carry 2 people like the venerated ute and the like, but even with them being included, I'd hazard that the occupancy would not rise far past 2 people/vehicle.

As for being ugly, the main problem for the masses, isn't that it is ugly but that it is outside conventional expectation. I certainly don't think it is ugly, but my reaction was that it was impractical. Having thought a bit about my own use for vehicles, I'd say it is not truly impractical for me... but I can't help think that it would be. The vehicles that fit into the suv categories are almost always ugly, but fit into convention. Heck, most vehicles are effectively oblongs stacked together! That ain't pritty! The appeal is in the impression that they can be versitile as the boxes that inspired (heh) them. The second metric of beauty would be flowing lines, I reckon, which complements symetry.

From July 1st 1999 it is compulsory to fit a Government approved immobiliser when you apply to register or transfer a vehicle. It is the buyer's responsibility (not the seller's) to ensure that this is done, otherwise the vehicle registration or transfer will not occur.

But, you're right. So what?

You're thinking of Western Australia. :p I'm still not convinced Perth actually exists. I mean, sure, it's on the maps, but when was the last time you ever heard anything about Perth on the news, or met anybody from Perth, or had Perth's existence validated in any other way?

Ok, I'll bite. As a card carring born again sand groper I think I have to validate my own existance.

Yes, Perth exists. Deal with it. Its (in my opinion) the best city in Australia, as far as actually being a place to live.

Whilst I know (as I was born in Melboune and went to high school in Sydney) that Western Australia was almost not on the map then, its getting hard to ignore now. It has the strongest economy in the country, just about the lowest unemployment (actually, Canberra is lower due to the large amount of government money there), and a city that has a future that doesn't depend on motor cars or even fossil fuels, so we aren't going to waste the economic benefits of having a strong economy.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm over reacting to a humourous statement, but I just had to ...

Michael

You're thinking of Western Australia. :p I'm still not convinced Perth actually exists. I mean, sure, it's on the maps, but when was the last time you ever heard anything about Perth on the news, or met anybody from Perth, or had Perth's existence validated in any other way?

Ok, I'll bite. As a card carring born again sand groper I think I have to validate my own existance.

Yes, Perth exists. Deal with it. Its (in my opinion) the best city in Australia, as far as actually being a place to live.

Whilst I know (as I was born in Melboune and went to high school in Sydney) that Western Australia was almost not on the map then, its getting hard to ignore now. It has the strongest economy in the country, just about the lowest unemployment (actually, Canberra is lower due to the large amount of government money there), and a city that has a future that doesn't depend on motor cars or even fossil fuels, so we aren't going to waste the economic benefits of having a strong economy.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm over reacting to a humourous statement, but I just had to ...

Michael

Perth in Western Australia has had fuel cell busses for well over a year http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/fuelcells/partners.html so if they wanted to test relibility what better way then on a bus , just think of all the angry commuters if one broke down .

Not that i'd wish to side with the Bush administration, but http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/fuelcells/hydrotech.html

"Steam reforming of natural gas is currently the most widely used and economical method of producing hydrogen. Close to 98% of hydrogen is presently generated from fossil fuels such as natural gas."

"For the purposes of the Perth Fuel Cell Bus Trial, the hydrogen used will be produced as a by-product from BP's Kwinana oil refinery."

http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/fuelcells/hydrotech.html

"Steam reforming of natural gas is currently the most widely used and economical method of producing hydrogen. Close to 98% of hydrogen is presently generated from fossil fuels such as natural gas."

"For the purposes of the Perth Fuel Cell Bus Trial, the hydrogen used will be produced as a by-product from BP's Kwinana oil refinery."