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Re:Stakeholders need?
Yes, let's do this by numbers. One vote per company. In the blue corner we have almost two thousand companies (Coral Cache)...
By the way, the database there is quite interesting. I never bothered to find out that Kapersky Labs was a German company, for example (and that they even care about legal malware). -
Infantile twerps
Jones and others' talk of "hypocrisy" and "treachery" is childish and ignorant. If they think that their facile SCO-hating and witch hunting as the clown Darl McBride inexplicably attempts to bash his company's brains out against the wall of IBM is somehow doing more for FLOSS than Marten Mickos has, they are completely deluded.
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Re:FFII web site taken downOn the news@ffii.org mailing list, Hartmut Pilch, president of the FFII, wrote:
The domain ffii.org is currently offline, due to a hoster who did not have the nerve to research a baseless threat letter sent by Nutzwerk's lawyers.
The FFII.org machine is not offline.
For instance you can still view
http://www.economic-majority.com/
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Too late to send letters. Please come to Brussels
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Or at least register to the Support Form at:
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Now it's time to do something, or it will be too late.
Sincerely,
Hervé Fulchiron
Zinside - Provider of Open Source Solutions
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Too late to send letters. Please come to Brussels
I recommand to everybody in Europe to come to this Conference:
June 29th 2005 - Conference in the European Parliament
http://economic-majority.com/konf050629/
Or at least register to the Support Form at:
http://economic-majority.com/index.en.php
Now it's time to do something, or it will be too late.
Sincerely,
Hervé Fulchiron
Zinside - Provider of Open Source Solutions
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Re:Smaller Software Companies
"Many" is not the same as a "substantial percentage",
I don't see how you can claim with a straight face that "473 companies" is "many companies" (and then you don't even know whether they got them for defensive purposes only, or because they think they would be useful -- I know at least one Belgian SME with a software patent who doesn't like them at all).and "building a business around a patent" is not the issue at al
It was according to the press release with which the BSA announced the study. They said in it that "in fact 81% depend on one patent" in reference to SMEs.All I'm saying is that many companies have taken this route and for very legitimate reasons - tax incentives and to aid in achieving funding. Many startup sotware companies need to gain the support of venture capital funds and / or early stage investors if they want to survive, and if patents help attract them, then thats what you do. If they enable you to pocket cash tax free too, all the better.
And others are experiencing problems in their quest for funding because of software patents. And there a a large number of venture capital firms with extensive experience in funding IT companies (the mentioned Benchmark Capital was behind the funding of eBay) who say that software patents actually increase risk.Of course, if software patents are enforceable, you're generally better off with such patents than without them. And you're right about the tax advantages, but even companies who take advantage of that are not necessarily in favour of software patents.
Software is a business, not a game. There are risks in every business of course, but a good patent search is a small investment to make if you are investing time and money in a project.
This is BS. In the nineties, several large insurance companies offered software patent insurance policies. They'd perform the patent search, estimate the risks of infringement and based on that offered you a policy. According to Ian Lewis of Miller Insurance Ltd (one of the largest insurance companies in the UK), these insurance companies are now running losses of up to 3000% on those policies. Really easy, sure.And if you're a closed source company, other companies can even patent the stuff you have done after your program is brought to market, since that doesn't count as a publication of the algorithm.
The point is simply that from a small business perspective, in the general case (I'm not claiming there aren't any exceptions) software patents pose much more risks than advantages.
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Re:Smaller Software Companies
"Many" is not the same as a "substantial percentage",
I don't see how you can claim with a straight face that "473 companies" is "many companies" (and then you don't even know whether they got them for defensive purposes only, or because they think they would be useful -- I know at least one Belgian SME with a software patent who doesn't like them at all).and "building a business around a patent" is not the issue at al
It was according to the press release with which the BSA announced the study. They said in it that "in fact 81% depend on one patent" in reference to SMEs.All I'm saying is that many companies have taken this route and for very legitimate reasons - tax incentives and to aid in achieving funding. Many startup sotware companies need to gain the support of venture capital funds and / or early stage investors if they want to survive, and if patents help attract them, then thats what you do. If they enable you to pocket cash tax free too, all the better.
And others are experiencing problems in their quest for funding because of software patents. And there a a large number of venture capital firms with extensive experience in funding IT companies (the mentioned Benchmark Capital was behind the funding of eBay) who say that software patents actually increase risk.Of course, if software patents are enforceable, you're generally better off with such patents than without them. And you're right about the tax advantages, but even companies who take advantage of that are not necessarily in favour of software patents.
Software is a business, not a game. There are risks in every business of course, but a good patent search is a small investment to make if you are investing time and money in a project.
This is BS. In the nineties, several large insurance companies offered software patent insurance policies. They'd perform the patent search, estimate the risks of infringement and based on that offered you a policy. According to Ian Lewis of Miller Insurance Ltd (one of the largest insurance companies in the UK), these insurance companies are now running losses of up to 3000% on those policies. Really easy, sure.And if you're a closed source company, other companies can even patent the stuff you have done after your program is brought to market, since that doesn't count as a publication of the algorithm.
The point is simply that from a small business perspective, in the general case (I'm not claiming there aren't any exceptions) software patents pose much more risks than advantages.
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Re:Throughly undemocratic
My favourite site:
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Re:And at that rate...<SARCASM> 39% ; in the US of A they call a group that large a 'moral majority' </SARCASM>
And in the EU, they call it an economic majority.
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Re:Stupid software patents
If so: Why not support http://www.economic-majority.com/ with your company?