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buy a 'book pc' & spray it black
Just use that spray on vinyl dye that car detailers use to change the colour of car interiors.
Afterall the vast majority of computers have plastic bevels, while the metal sides are painted with acrylic paint.
You can buy a PC Chips S370 'bare bones' book PC (its even avaliable in black as the 'Delux' model with IR keyboard & mouse/remote .
Or you can buy Book PC cases in LPX, NLX, MicroATX or FlexATX format, & build the bugger yourself. Many companies make them, including Enlight ( 7180-mATX , EN-7396 ) & Asus/ElanVital -
My Mini-computer
I'm posting this from the best computer I have right now, my home build mini-computer.
I used an Intel D810EMO mainboard. (legacy free).
In a Elan Vital MF-1
And a Maxtor 531dx hard drive.
with a USB Microsoft Natural keyboard and a USB Optical Logitech it is one nice machine. And it even looks good sitting on my desktop.
The Linux support for this hardware is excellent, also BeOS runs beautifully. -
Making a small PCActually I'm making a small living room PC right now. So far I have
- an Intel D810EMO mainboard.
- a Maxtor 531dx hard drive. (slim and durable)
- I am considering at this Elan Vital MF-1 case.
For those that are interested here are a few other links to small case manufacturers.
Case Manufacturer listing
Morex/ProCase
In Win
Yeong Yang -
My quiet case project : it's an answer ... sort of
Well, it seem these days, most of the power user just care to get something like 200fps in Quake III. Why ? Beat's me ! I'm not on a quest to get the ultimate frame rate, I just want my box to be quiet as possibly can be.
To help you understand my take on the subject, here is the background
:
My PC has the following components :- A OEM case
- A 235W OEM power supply
- ASUS P3B-F
- Intel Pentium II rated 400Mhz @ 400Mhz
- A cheap OEM SECC2 Heat-Sink made of aluminum
- A 128MB CAS2 no-name DIMM
- Two 32MB CAS3 Samsung DIMM slowing down my memory timing, but preventing the appearance of the all mighty evil SwaP
- A ATI All-In-Wonder Rage128 16MB
- A Creative SoundBlaster Live! Value
- A Realtek 8139 Ethernet NIC
- My beloved USR 56Kbps ISA Real Modem. Sorry but to me a component that uses CPU power to do it's processing instead of taking the load off is not worthy of being in my computer. Not to mention the M$ Win part...
- A Creative 48x CD-ROM drive. It's the loudest damned thing in my computer when it's spinning
- A Quantum Fireball AS PLUS 40GB (7200RPM) in a removable tray
- A Quantum Fireball CX1 10GB (5400RPM) mounted inside the case
- Of course the stupid old 1.44 MB floppy drive only used for booting Tomsbrt in case of emergency
Soon to be
:
- A Adaptec 2940UW
- A Diamond Monster 3D II for Glide games
It turn out that the Quantum Fireball AS makes less noise than the Quantum Fireball CX1. I still have to figure it out
...I use my PC for
:
- Running Linux and learning as much as time allows me (Jez I had so much time when I was a student... Think of all the time I wasted in High-School running the evil W monster)
- Doing some gaming i.e. : Diablo II, Unreal, UT, Undying (Although that thing is going to cost me a new box)
- Spending numerous nights filling my brain @ Slashdot, Tomshardware, Anandtech, Arstechnica, StorageReview, Developper.Intel.com, and most importantly, hounding the web for all the case manufacturers and their take at a quiet box.
As I'm writing this post, that is probably going to be the base documentation for my Silent Case Project, you're guessing that my sleepless night of browsing have not yielded the desired result.
I've check out many options such as water cooling, moving the PC to the closet, returning to the forest where a PC is pretty far from your everyday quest for survival. None of them suits me.
The objective of my project is to build a case that meets the following criteria
:
- A silent as possible
- Accessible
- Provides sufficient ventilation to maintain all the components running within thermal specs
- Be light enough to be easily transportable (Let's not forget the Lan parties
;-)
To attain those goals I have to
:- Read all I can about noise, sound, aerodynamics, PC specs
- Find suitable materials : A case is not just a protection against unwanted fingers and dust ; it must provide EMI shielding, proper grounding, resist to impacts, and fit into my conception of the king of object you want in your bedroom (If you were thinking about plywood and a box of rusted leftover nails, forget it)
- Find the tools or the companies or individuals with the means to work the materials I choose to build the casing
For the sound isolation I was thinking about some kind of foam. Mineral lint would be affective but that takes too much space and it's not the kind of thing I want beside my bed. Form the casing itself, metal is almost inevitable if you want EMI shielding and grounding. And as for you who wonder why I have not mentioned water cooling yet, the greatest source of noise is not my CPU cooler and your just moving the problem out of the case (Nice ; you have water heating up but unless your reservoir is like a bathtub or something you will have to transfer the heat for the water to the air).
That about as far as I am. If you have any idea that might help me, please fell free to send me some bits forming ASCII characters at Prozzaks@operamail.com
To finish up, here is a list of thing that might help people wanting to achieve similar goals
:
- http://www.formfactors.org/ You should be able to find all the documents regarding the ATX form factor and thermal design guides. A must if you want to build a quiet PC.
- http://developer.intel.com/ Intel has contributed a great deal to the ATX definition ; here you will find many relevant documents including thermal design guides for all Intel processors.
- Etract from my favorite's :
Hardware\cases PC CASE
Fong Kai
PowerOn
Enlight Corporation
dir.yahoo Enclosures Manufacturers
procase
YY Computer
Psi
IN WIN
Amtrade
American Suntek
Addtronics
A-Top Technology, Inc
Nikao
Palo Alto Products
Antec
Lian-Li
amaquest
Koolance
Quietpc
PC Power & Cooling
Hardware\Heat Sinks ALPHA
Cooler Master
AVC
ekl
GlobalWIN
globefan
RDJD
Foxconn
Spring Spread
Sanyo Denki
TITAN
TaiSol
ChipCoolers
Orb a
ElanVital
Hardware\Info\Form Factor Platform Development Support
SSI
WTX
Hardware\Info\Standards Fibre Channel Industry Association
PCI SIG
RAB
serialata
SPEC
Hardware\Info\Storage RAID.edu
Hardware\Info\Cours CS 252 - Graduate Computer Architecture
Hardware\Info The PC Guide!
Hardware Bible
FullOn3D
developer.intel.com
HwB The Hardware Book
United Overclockers
Ars Technica
Tech-Junkie
HardwarePub
Webopedia
Illustrated Guide to the PC Hardware
SysOpt
2CPU
Ace's Hardware
Technical Support - RaidHelp v1.0 - Free RAID Technology Guide
Computer Architecture
OPENCORES.ORG
TechFest
MidWest Micro Support
Hardware\Resalers GeekTek!
Micro-Bytes
ALCO
ABC Micro
2CoolTek
Plycon Computers
TCWO
ABC Micro - Lprix
Case Outlet
The Chip Merchant, Inc
Cimsys
OrdiGros
ALIENWARE
SHENTECH
FireStorm
Hyper Microsystems
TWEAKBOX
Hardware\Reviews Tom's Hardware Guide
Sharky Extreme
StorageReview
HardOCP
AnandTech
SystemLogic
x-bit labs
Active-Hardware
FiringSquad
SocketA
Overclockers Australia
HEXUS
dansdata
SysReview
Hardware\Manufacturers AMD
ASUS
Belkin
MassMultiples
Promise
StarTech
VIA Technologies, Inc
ABIT Computer Corp
Comcase
Micron Semiconductor
ECS
Hardware Freeboxen
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MicroATX a bit more flexible.
A bit more flexible option than the laptops people are suggesting.. You can find cases at elan vital and aopen. Asus has numerous boards in microatx. Here's their KT133 based one.
If you want even smaller, you can go FlexATX. Motherboards are scarce, however. I think Tyan has one, but no AGP slot on there.
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Re:Less power consumption, less heat, less fans ?
Amen, brother.
PC Power and Cooling sells quiet fans, power supplies, etc. QuietPC is another place to look. Elan Vital specializes in quiet cases, also.
In my case (pun) "fan noise" is really turbulence caused by the fan trying to blow or suck air through inadequate openings. My stupid case had very small perforations where the case fans were attached that were quite noisy. Imagine blowing through a window screen. The solution I used was to cut those perforations away, which left 3" holes for the fans to blow through. I coved them with standard wire grills. This worked quite well, though it's a lot of work.
john -
They both have their benefits.Many people have commented on the custom built scenario, which is the 'I know what I'm getting' argument, which I agree is a very good argument.
Sometimes, however, there are advantages to pre-assembled machines. Now, I consider there to be three main types of pre-built machines--
- proprietary parts (eg Dell Optiplex, but not a Dell Dimension)
- integrated motherboards (the dirt-cheap machines you find on PriceWatch)
- individual parts (individual sound/video cards, etc.)
Naturally, the flaw with this is that you might not be able to get that one specific part (video card, whatever) you had your heart set on, if the company you choose doesn't stock it, so it's not quite as good as the custom approach, but you might be able to save enough money to put in a crap item, and trade it out yourself.
For the middle class of pre-built machines, there's the ones with integrated parts on the motherboard. Mostly, they're the type that use shared memory for video, have built in wussy sound, etc. Probably not really what you want for a box permenantly, but they're good cheap-now/upgrade-later boxes. [you need something right now, and can't blow much cash on it, but you'll later have the cash to replace out the MB, video, sound, etc.]
And we're left with the 'proprietary parts' machines, which well, are great, so long as they never break. If something goes wrong, you might get screwed in having to fork out $40 for a FDD that fits in that size, etc. If the MB goes, you're basically screwed [although, most under this type have a longer warrenty than the others...as minimum a year... so with an extended warrenty, this might be a good type of machine for that aunt you have who's completely computer illiterate, but insists on calling you up for her 'I can't get on the Internet' questions]
So, in summary, look at what you need for this individual box -- is it a server, and you need 99.9999% uptime? Well, you'll want all custom parts for it, no question, to make sure you have an easy access case, reliable HD, ECC memory, a good NIC, etc. Is it just some lame workstation? Well, maybe you'll be willing to cut a few corners [integrated MB, smaller HD], so you can upgrade your main box. Is it for someone else? Warrenties/Tech support are good, so they're not calling you constantly to come over and fix it when they load some stupid screensaver someone sent them in e-mail.
And on an slightly related note, if anyone knows of a source for the Elan Vital M5 case, (not the M5-R), mail me : oneiros$at$annoying.org [replacing $at$ as appropriate]
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Please help me!
Wasn't that http://www.elanvital.com.tw/ ?