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Re:"Gender Diversity" and other Doublespeak
From the same post where you cherry picked that quote to make a really sad attempt at strawmanning me:
"Anything gets competitive... where men start trying really hard... the women sit down. They don't even try. Not because they can't but because they're programmed to not try."Here's the thing, pudding... I'm a seasoned campaigner... I forget more about rhetoric on the john every day than you'll ever know. I know... Dick measuring... listen to me whip out my big throbbing e-peen and compare sizes. But you see, that's the point again. This is how it goes.
As to girls in little league... a relatively minor subset. And it doesn't help you because its only one place. There are a zillion other examples i can throw at you that would bury your occasional exception. And really none of it matters because the facts aren't even remotely in dispute.
Boys are more aggressive... more competitive... more assertive. And even the "kill all men" feminists agree. You can't fight it, sport. Its just sad.
As to canton, I can't evaluate that without access to their databases. I can't see individual student scoring. All you're showing me is that there are women on the team. When they compete, they're only allowed to send FOUR of the students to the meet. Which means the vast majority of those kids stay home.
So who do did they send and what did they score? Impossible to know isn't it?
As they say in math "show your work".
:)Your link about japanese exchange students didn't touch on competition so I don't know what you're talking about there.
As to the Naperville thing... you didn't actually read any of this did you? That isn't how you win, bucko! You're not going to get the virtual pussy at this rate.
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Senior Tom Gannon of Downers Grove set the tone early in the day by winning the state championship in the Oral competition with 48 out of a possible 50 points. Later in the day, in a large jam packed auditorium, Tom and Junior Brendan Caseria of Naperville finished 2nd in the State in the Junior-Senior 2-person competition. To wrap up a terrific day, Tom capped it off with an 8th place finish in the Pre-Calculus written competition. The senior team of Rachel Berry of Naperville, Sabrina Lichon of Naperville, Brian Meier of Downers Grove, Robbie Stanley of Warrenville, Jeff Sweeney of Downers Grove and Gannon finished in 4th place, their highest finish ever at the State Math Meet.
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The champ was Tom Gannon, followed by Brendan Caseria, then tom won something else... and apparently some collection of people with no apparent individual scoring that was the only segment with the females got 4th.
Just saying, bucko... I think this means my pubic hair is slightly glossier than yours.
As to being wrong... okay... Fine... you want me to bury you in science? You asked for it.
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http://www.livescience.com/380...The point of the citations was not to support my thesis. It was so you understood you weren't arguing against some guy that is more fit for breeding with the internet females than you. The point was rather to show you that you're arguing against an entire field of science and citing some anecdotal refer
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Re:Another "moderation" fraud
Let's take the Hazda:
http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/EP07601616.pdf
None of those starches or sugars is refined at all, which likely reduces the amount of effect that it can have on insulin levels, much less insulin resistance. Hell Baobab is even advertised as low glycemic: (http://baobab-fruit.com)
Even honey is a relatively low glycemic index: http://www.livestrong.com/article/270875-honey-vs-sugar-glycemic-index/
Using the Hazda to refute the insulin hypothesis, given the low glycemic values of their diet, seems inappropriate.
There's still a lot of berries and starch. And the very low fat content.
You can examine what happens when you eat specific foods in detail and that very valuable. But obesity is caused by our entire lifestyle and can't replicate their lifestyles in a metabolic ward.
"caused by our entire lifestyle?" So for example, if one person watches the news for 30 minutes, and another watches a sitcom, you're going to assert that this lifestyle difference could cause a difference in obesity? By what possible mechanism?
The science of fat accumulation cannot simply be stated as "thou shalt do no measurements, and rely on self reported diet and exercise numbers". Until you get someone in a metabolic ward (where you can test all kinds of hypotheses on what may or may not add to fat accumulation), you're not collecting very good data.
That's a pretty lame reductio ad absurdum. How many times do people go out drinking with friends in a metabolic ward? Go to a potluck, head out for lunch, play a soccer game, go for a walk, have a chat with friends, or work late and hit the snack machine or food stash in their desk? Social cues and depression both affect eating. Routine is a huge factor in eating habits and is something that's probably impossible to maintain in a metabolic ward.
You can test specific hypotheses in a metabolic ward, but it's not a magic bullet.
You've shown data you believe contradicts him, but doesn't.
Lets forget the tribesmen he implied used a fattening ceremony based off carbs, but really did it with fat. And how he just changes the subject when it comes to Japan and tons of other places that are high carb and even starch without being obese. And how injecting insulin into mice doesn't cause obesity, and replacing fat calories with sugar calories 1-1 doesn't cause obesity, and insulin resistance seems to be a mechanism to keep excess glucose out of cells so it doesn't poison cells (don't think I linked this one). And how obesity in the US shows no relationship to carbohydrate consumption.
And lets just concentrate the fact that GI isn't really correlated to insulin after all. So all that carbohydrate evidence he thinks he has doesn't even exist.
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Re:Another "moderation" fraud
Let's take the Hazda:
http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/EP07601616.pdf
None of those starches or sugars is refined at all, which likely reduces the amount of effect that it can have on insulin levels, much less insulin resistance. Hell Baobab is even advertised as low glycemic: (http://baobab-fruit.com)
Even honey is a relatively low glycemic index: http://www.livestrong.com/article/270875-honey-vs-sugar-glycemic-index/
Using the Hazda to refute the insulin hypothesis, given the low glycemic values of their diet, seems inappropriate.
You can examine what happens when you eat specific foods in detail and that very valuable. But obesity is caused by our entire lifestyle and can't replicate their lifestyles in a metabolic ward.
"caused by our entire lifestyle?" So for example, if one person watches the news for 30 minutes, and another watches a sitcom, you're going to assert that this lifestyle difference could cause a difference in obesity? By what possible mechanism?
The science of fat accumulation cannot simply be stated as "thou shalt do no measurements, and rely on self reported diet and exercise numbers". Until you get someone in a metabolic ward (where you can test all kinds of hypotheses on what may or may not add to fat accumulation), you're not collecting very good data.
I've shown real data he's misrepresented. I've shown counter examples he's ignored.
No, you actually really haven't. You've shown data you believe contradicts him, but doesn't. You've shown examples that you believe contradict him, but don't.
Moreover, you seem to think (although perhaps this isn't what you intend) that the insulin hypothesis simply has no value whatsoever, and must be replaced by a nebulous, undefined "palatability" hypothesis. You then clearly treat this favored hypothesis as immune to the same sort of critique you give to the insulin hypothesis, doing much of what you accuse taubes of - misrepresenting data and ignoring counter examples.
So sure, there certainly is a lot more to be learned about what drives insulin resistance, and perhaps, for some small fraction of obese, what alternative method (MHO) might be causing a hormonal imbalance in fat accumulation. But frankly, Guynet and his wishful thinking about palatability and tastiness just doesn't stand up to the same level of scrutiny that he'd like us to place on the insulin hypothesis.
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Re:Maybe...
http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/EP07398441_c.pdf
Table of data of PDF page 11.
Charts starting on PDF page page 13
Abstract:
Better understanding the nature, origin and popularity of varying levels of popular religion versus secularism, and their impact upon socioeconomic conditions and vice versa, requires a cross national comparison of the competing factors in populations where opinions are freely chosen. Utilizing 25 indicators, the uniquely extensive Successful Societies Scale reveals that population diversity and immigration correlate weakly with 1st world socioeconomic conditions, and high levels of income disparity, popular religiosity as measured by differing levels of belief and activity, and rejection of evolutionary science correlate strongly negatively with improving conditions. The historically unprecedented socioeconomic security that results from low levels of progressive government policies appear to suppress popular religiosity and creationist opinion, conservative religious ideology apparently contributes to societal dysfunction, and religious prosociality and charity are less effective at improving societal conditions than are secular government programs. The antagonistic relationship between better socioeconomic conditions and intense popular faith may prevent the existence of nations that combine the two factors. The nonuniversality of strong religious devotion, and the ease with which large populations abandon serious theism when conditions are sufficiently benign, refute hypotheses that religious belief and practice are the normal, deeply set human mental state, whether they are superficial or natural in nature. Instead popular religion is usually a superficial and flexible psychological mechanism for coping with the high levels of stress and anxiety produced by sufficiently dysfunctional social and especially economic environments. Popular nontheism is a similarly casual response to superior conditions -
Re:Ötzi no bang Utz's wife again!
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Re:Ötzi no bang Utz's wife again!
There is no citation for the first since it's clearly not true (without using a strange definition of few) - there are references to monogamy in parts of the bible that are more than a few hundred years old.
For the second: http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/ep021223.pdf