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IANAL, and neither are you. by Anonymous Coward · 2000-05-02 05:43 · Score: 1 · on Kerberos, PACs And Microsoft's Dirty Tricks

Trade Secret theft is a federal offense. Read about it here . Here's the scary part:

Section 1832 of the Act makes it a federal criminal act for any person to convert a trade secret to his own benefit or the benefit of others intending or knowing that the offense will injure any owner of the trade secret. The conversion of a trade secret is defined broadly to cover every conceivable act of trade secret misappropriation including theft, appropriation without authorization, concealment, fraud artifice, deception, copying without authorization, duplication, sketches, drawings, photographs, downloads, uploads, alterations, destruction, photocopies, transmissions, deliveries, mail, communications, or other transfers or conveyances of such trade secrets without authorization.

Links to sources on RPGs by spiralx · 2000-04-12 21:58 · Score: 2 · on Showdown With The Pinkertons

Yes, but they've been the enemies of "upstanding" Americans for years anyway - see here for a Christian perspective on D&D and here for a Time magazine article, both of which are anti RPGs. There is a good overview of the whole situation with lots of links here at about.com.

Time for Slashdot to take a stand... by Anonymous Coward · 2000-04-05 03:12 · Score: 4 · on MPAA Files Another Injunction Against 2600

The following is a list of all the mirrors from the 2600 site.

Re:Interesting... not that scary... by ronfar · 2000-03-28 21:13 · Score: 1 · on Geek Profiling: The Next W.A.V.E.

Do you know anything about the Pinkertons? The oh so friendly company responsible for this? Have you ever read Red Harvest by Dashiell Hammett?

Frankly, it amazes me that after their part in the labor struggles of the 20th century that the Pinkertons are even still around, and successful. I mean I suppose historical evils like the Nazi's still hang around, but they aren't part of mainstream society or anything that decent people want to be associated with.

Oh, and incidentally it doesn't matter whether or not, "N.C. is trying to root out video game playing," what they are doing is giving High School kids a place to send poison pen letters. Want to get someone in your class you don't like? Just call the Pinkertons, they'll take care of it for you!

I mean seriously, you'd expect them to have at least done some research on the movies they show to school kids. My English teacher in junior high showed us all The Wave the same year she showed us the Diary of Anne Frank. It's comical that something which aspires to be a U.S. version of the Comintern/Hitler Youth would choose W.A.V.E. for their name.

Well, I guess we should all be happy that a company with a proud tradition of union busting, strike breaking and general oppression is bringing it's techniques to the American public school system. Of course, where I went to school we learned all about the Pinkertons, I wonder if they'll change the history books in the school districts where the friendly Pinkertons are helping out? Of course I did go to school in working class Irish NJ, I suspect they may already have different history books in NC...

Re:Your .sig is stupid by unborracho · 2000-03-21 10:21 · Score: 1 · on Is "coke.ch" A Violation of Coca-Cola's (tm)?

yea, and i guess the line for that equation would be 3x + 5.79y + 3.33z -20 (in standard form of course) :) --Kenny

Re:Moderate this WAY THE HELL UP by Windigo+The+Feral+(N · 2000-02-22 03:36 · Score: 2 · on Lightning Crashes, An Old Freedom Dies (Updated)

Some anonymous coward dun said:

Thanks for posting. Mixing Christian fundamentalism and politics is like mixing fertilizer and a Ryder truck. One can only imagine the Oklahoma City that these psychopaths have in mind for us if they ever get their way.

Trust me when I say you do not want to find out what they may have in mind. Almost everything points to it being very, very, very bad for the humans of this planet and for other living things...

Specifically, an awful lot of people in the Religious Right seem to think that a fair amount of stuff in Revelation (the Book of Apocalypse for you Catholic/Orthodox folks) points to a worldwide nuclear war. For years, the fundies have claimed Russia would be the one to start it--when this finally became completely untenable, they claimed it was Iraq. In any case, they're firmly convinced that SOMEONE is going to start some kind of nuclear conflict which will erupt worldwide.

There are actually a surprising number of books out in the fundamentalist circles regarding this...some of them even trying to reach out to popular culture (like Hal Linden's books).

The really scary thing about this is a) they are firmly convinced this is a Good Thing because b) they are also firmly convinced that before this happens they are going to be Raptured up and will get the enjoyment of seeing the sinners (and the entire planet) burn in nuclear hellfire from front-row seats in Heaven. (Yeah, there's a rather shocking amount of hate and resentment even in their stories of Eternal Reward. Sick, huh?).

I think I can truthfully say that little would scare me more than a leader of the Religious Right with his finger on The Button. And I can base that on how (before I walked away) I used to see the preacher and darn near the entire congregation nearly jizz themselves when the Cold War threatened to heat up...and later (after I'd walked away but was still forced to occasionally attend) when the Gulf War hit because they were utterly, completely convinced that this was going to be the Big One...and after THAT, Y2K (and in all three cases it was going to be Russia's Fault--these guys STILL aren't out of the Cold War mindset!)...I don't want these guys anywhere NEAR anything remotely resembling a nuclear weapon, thank you. :P

It is interesting you mention Oklahoma City, though. The perpetrators are suspected of being in with Christian Identity groups; Christian Identity is a really warped version of fundamentalism that claims that white folks are the "true Children of Israel" and that the Jews are actually the literal children of Satan--all the "brown" and "yellow" folks are apparently "mud people" in their eyes. In fact, the bombing is thought to have been done to parallel the plot of a book popular in Christian Identity and other racist circles called "The Turner Diaries" which basically depicts these groups committing various terrorist acts and eventually overthrowing the US Government.

Now, I'm sure most of you are wondering just why the hell I'm mentioning Christian Identity when we're talking about (presumably) relatively non-racist fundies. Well, it turns out the two do have some links, especially on the more radical sides of the Religious Right that they never want to show on TV...

First off, the US Taxpayer's Party (the second-largest fundamentalist party in the US [the first is that part of the Republican Party that the Religious Right has effectively hijacked]--it also may be now running under the name "Constitution Party")--which has explicit party platforms calling for the US to essentially establish a theocracy--has links to not only a veritable who's who of the Religious Right (among them--James Dobson of Focus on the Family [a branch group of FoF, Family Research Council, is heavily pushing the censorware drive in Holland] [info here], Senator Bob Smith [info here], Matt Trewhella [who has advocated stuf like bombing abortion clinics, is a Christian Reconstructionist, and his group Missionaries to the Preborn darn near makes Operation Rescue look pacifist in comparison; info here], Pat Buchanan [yes, as in the guy who's now going for the Reform Party nomination and who has almost singlehandedly succeeded in destroying that party--info here], the heads of Operation Rescue, and the Rev. Rushdoony [the "main guy" behind Christian Reconstructionism--the canard that the Founding Fathers somehow meant the US to be a theocracy]) but also a surprising number of links to militia groups and--here's the kicker--Christian Identity groups (info here and here (this one is especially good--it turns out the very leader of the US Taxpayers Party runs a militia and calls for churches to form "Christian Patriot" militias), here, here, here, and here; if memory serves, there's also reference in the ADL's report on militias).

There's some more info here on the politics of the US Taxpayers Party. Keep in mind that this party has gotten big support from the Religious Right and (should the Republican Party ever find its cojones again and tell the Religious Right exactly where to go) it's strongly thought that (at the least) the 35 states in which the GOP party apparatus has been hijacked by the Religious Right would go to the US Taxpayers Party, as well as the majority of the Religious Right supporters of the GOP now. As it is, the US Taxpayers Party got on the ballot in 40 states last Presidential election...which is damned scary enough.

For some more happy links between the "non-racist" bits of the Religious Right and the scary folks making fertiliser bombs...

1) The Arthur S. DeMoss Foundation (a big Religious Right think-tank/bankroller--these are the guys who have the adverts for adoption saying "Choose Life" and the guys who have Jeff Gordon and NFL stars and the lady from "Children of a Lesser God" hawking "Power for Living" on TV ["Power for Living", btw, is basically a guide on how to get involved in coercive fundy groups :P]...) has founded at least one Christian Identity group in past.

2) Larry Pratt, who has worked with Pat Buchanan (among others) has some rather extensive links to militia and outright racist groups (more info, including on links between the Religious Right and the far right, here).

3) It seems that the Coors family (major bankrollers of the Religious Right) and the Heritage Foundation may have links to racist groups (info here).

4) The Free Congress Foundation, a subsidary group of the Heritage Foundation, has links with many racist and fascist groups (info here).

5) Pat Robertson could actually be considered borderline between "non-racist" fundies and the scary guys on the far right. Many of his books have actually contained "code words" common in the racist community, and at times he's been outright overt about it...it's probably best that you look here (thank you, Google, for caching--surprisingly, this is actually a critique from a conservative viewpoint!) or here to hear the guy in his own words...

6) More info here on a funding-group active in California.

This is not to indicate fundamentalists are racists. Most aren't, and I suspect most would be shocked to find what their leaders support...but there ARE links there, sadly. I'd be remiss if I didn't point that out (and for youse in Holland--it turns out that Focus on the Family is the group most consistently associated with the US Taxpayers Party--you may be able to use this to your advantage, possibly).

Trade Secret Protection by SEWilco · 2000-01-31 01:47 · Score: 2 · on CMU Sphinx Open Sourced

Actually, trade secrets can be used if the holder of the secret gave it to you and if you help them keep the secret (the agreement between the two of you will have such details).

Also, you can use a trade secret if you discover it legally. You can't steal the secret from a safe. You could analyze the product yourself and try to duplicate it. The secret holder is not required to confirm that you did it right, of course. But the keeper of the secret has no legal protection against someone else rediscovering the secret. [IANAL; you can look it up in any introductory protection document]

Mirror from 2600 - probably will be gone soon by Anonymous Coward · 2000-01-20 09:36 · Score: 0 · on MPAA Sending Out DMCA Demand Letters

Mirrors

http://www.multimania.com/sxpert/decss/

http://www.posexperts.com.pl/peopl e/wrobell/css/

http://www.koek.net/dvd

http://logical-solutions.com.au/DeCSS.zip

http://www.sarahandcasey.com/decss/

http://www.fsp.com

http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~echerry/dvd

http://people.mn.mediaone.net/bojay/s lashdot/

http://www.mafkees.com/dvd

http://members.tripod.com/donotsueme/

http://donotsueme.homepage.com

http://donotsueme.freeservers.com/

http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~marsie/

http://dB.org/dvd/

http://dcwi.com/~wench/decss

http://www.capital.net/~mazzic

http://dvdcss.newmail.ru

http://www.subcor.com

http://www.frankw.net/decss

http://danger-island.com/~dav/any.lawyer.who [...]

http://www.fortunecity.com/vi ctorian/parkwood/95/DVD/

http://www.asleep.net/dvd

http://members.xoom.com/NiKeX

http://www.geocit ies.com/ResearchTriangle/Station/2819/index.html

http://www.execpc.com/~unicorn/dvdmirr or.htm

http://members.xoom.com/chapter3/Mamma No.htm

http://www.twistedlogic.com/archive/dvd

http://wiw.org/~drz/css/

http://merlinjim.freeservers.com/dvd/

http://www.visi.com/~adept/liberty

http://mikedotd.penguinpowered.com/deccs

http://www.ct2600.org/2600-DVD.html

http://magic.hurrah.com/~fireball/dvd/

http://homepages.together.net/~ib nzahid/DeCSS.zip

http://www.save2600.8m.com

http://people.ne.mediaone.net/dantepsn/

http://mikedotd.penguinpowered.com/decss

http://members.xoom.com/mxpxguy/dvd/

http://decss.fall0ut.com

http://vedaa.tripod.com/decss.html

http://members.xoom.com/iox

http://www.hackunlimited.com/dvd/

http://hem.fyristorg.com/police/css.htm

http://elknews.netpedia.net/dvd/

http://www.idrive.com/decss/web

http://www.chello.nl/~f.vanwaveren

http://quintessenz.at/q

http://www.clug.com/~vodak/dvd/

http://www.nacs.net/~vodak/dvd/

http://ny2600.iwarp.com

http://www.wpi.edu/~nassar/dvd/

http://www.glue.umd.edu/~castongj

http://www.geocities.com/cold_dvd/

http://www.projectgamma.com/deccs/

http://members.xoom.com/mogreen/decss/

http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip

http://www.angelfire.com/de2/decss/dec ss.htm

http://www.krackdown.com/decss

http://www.ithink.org/dvd/

http://www.fortunecit y.com/skyscraper/motorola/1415/decss.htm

http://chaz.fsgs.com/misc/DvD/

http://www.linuxstart.com/~kv ance/projects/decss.html

http://www.darkkingz.com/DeCSS.zip

http://come.to/intelex

http://ebmedia.net/dvd/

http://www.geocities.com/decss_forever/

http://revolution.3-cities.com/~spack/dv d/

http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/8762/

http://members.xoom.com/s_o_sam/help.html

http://www.vexed.net/CSS/

http://smokering.org

http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz

http://home.rmci.net/bert/fuckthelawyers

http://dlsf.org

http://home.rmci.net/bert/dvd

http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip

http://linux.uci.agh.edu.pl/~outlaw/ decss.html

http://debian.mps.krakow.pl/mirror/css/

http://www.mindspring.com/~stonethrower

http://www.geocitie s.com/SiliconValley/Hardware/6188/index.html

http://matt.frogspace.net/css/

ftp://www.spamshack.net/pub/dcss/

http://werewolf12.cjb.net

http://isupport2600.8m.com

http://imezok.tripod.com/Untitled.txt

http://warpedreality.members.easyspace. com/

http://w1.1634.telia.com/~u163400190 /DeCSS.zip

http://ts1.online.fr/dvd/

http://homepages.go.com/homepage s/4/0/3/403_error/

http://members.xoom.com/maud123/Home/C SS.htm

http://xtreme2k.8k.com/DeCSS

http://hackingdvd.homestead.com

http://www.geocities.com/soho /studios/6752/index.html

http://www.geocities.com/corporatemin dcontrol

http://darklord.darkthrone.com/user s/smith/dvd/

http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip

http://www.twistedlogic.com/archive/dvd

http://www.image.dk/~mbp

http://www.divisionbyzero.com/decss/

http://decss.cx

http://kevins.ne.mediaone.net/~kevins/dv d/

http://friko6.onet.pl/war/mkochano/

http://planeta.clix.pt/DJ_AmAzInG/DVD/

http://noc.res.cmu.edu

http://www.kiss.uni-lj.si/~k4ef1890/css/

http://hackingdvd.homestead.com

http://www.uwm.edu/~zachkarp/index.html

http://st-bart.net

http://decss_files.tripod.com

http://wakeupthe.net/dvd/

http://www.angelfire.com/punk/freedom/

http://www.corova.com/dvd/

http://2600.dk/mirrors/css/

http://dvdcrack.homepage.com

http://www.copkiller.org

http://www.worldcity.nl/~frank/dvd

http://members.xoom.com/iamkeenan/master/

http://www.adulation.net/css/

http://homepage.interacces s.com/~mycroft/decss/DeCSS.zip

http://underground.pl/dvd/

http://members.xoom.com/nyc2600

http://zerosoft.hypermart.net/warez/ DVDcrK.txt

http://www.deforest.org/CSS

http://members.xoom.com/freedvdinfo/

http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/3971/

http://24.114.168.235/public/css.htm

http://fairuse.freeservers.com/

http://jupiter.spaceports.com/~decss

http://www.c0ke.com/DVD

http://2600.bigfuc.com

http://www.crosswinds.net/oakland/~ahrendt/Lawyers _are_scu m-sucking_pigs [...]

http://sdf.lonestar.org/~egg/

http://cssalgorithm.8m.com

http://www.duffbrew.com/decss/

http://heavymusic.8m.com

http://www.oblivion.net/~amar/css

http://www.charm.net/~dutch

http://members.tripod.com/ny2600/

http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/ny2600/

go.to/nairos

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/decs s/

http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/dvd.htm

http://theannux.homestead.com/decss.html

http://members.aol.com/elktonstalkers/CS S/

http://pages.hotbot.com/edu/silex/mir ror.html

http://budsmoker.com/sites/decss/

http://www.geocities.com/watice2/

http://home.att.net /~phreakonaleash/ccs_mirror--screw_the_feds/

http://DECSS-Baby.tripod.com/

http://decss.cyvoid.net

http://www.azillionmonkeys.c om/qed/recess_for_css.html

http://www.reapers.org

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS

http://www.halma.nl/~bb

http://supportyourlocal2600.homestead.co m/

http://www.angelfire.com/pe/sh3/deccs/

http://www.angelfire.com/el ectronic/icebandits/dvd.html

http://killer.radom.net/~shoggoth/dvd.ht ml

http://www3.50megs.com/dvd4free/

http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/a ntigovernment/css.html

http://dbzauctions.tripod.com/decss.zip

Mirrors part 1 by Anonymous Coward · 2000-01-19 02:42 · Score: 0 · on Corel Draw 9 for Linux Needs Beta Testers

Visit Humpin! (No, it's not what you think!)

Temporary restraining order DENIED!

Thanks to the efforts of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the organization and support provided by a few of our fellow defendants we are still here! Another hearing is scheduled for January 14th.

We would like to point out to all of the mirror sites with things like "fuck the lawyers" on them that it is because of a generous group of lawyers that we are still here. These lawyers are working for free (or much less than they could get by going over to the Dark Side) and don't deserve this kind of abuse.

Here is the EFF's stance on this case.

Save a copy of this web page now!

We have just been informed that the DVD Copy Control Association is seeking a restraining order against us (named as "Doe 28") for distributing DeCSS and linking to pages that distribute it and linking to pages that link to pages that distribute it.

Section 48 of this request states that we supposedly "have received notice through the MPA and refused to remove the information at issue". This is absolutely false! We have never received any such request (from the MPA or anybody else for that matter) and we obviously were not given the opportunity to refuse! Either Jared Bobrow needs to go back to law school or the DVD CCA needs to get a new firm. This is the kind of sloppy work that could get an important document thrown out.

Here is a 2600 story on this.

Explanation on legality of this information

The software (source as well as binaries) offered on this site can be freely redistributed because it was published under the GNU General Public License. The purpose of this software is not illegal copying of DVD disks. It is meant to provide information necessary to be able to program a DVD player for Linux. To do this, the CSS system needs to be incorporated in the player. Recently the (very weak) DVD content scrambling system was deciphered, freeing the way for a Linux DVD player. The CSS system is not a copy protection system, since it does not prevent copying of the disk. Writing information about the way an encryption scheme functions is completely legal. The source code and binaries on this site are completely legal too, since they contain no code from the DVD consortium or its members. The sources and programs on this site were written by third parties using clean-room reverse engineering methods which are (ready?) completly legal.

Attention www.rhythm.cx was hosting a list of mirrors for these files. That list of mirrors has been replaced with a page reading "This site has been taken down for legal reasons." Here's what the maintainer put on the site the day it was shut down:

NOTE (Thu, Nov 11, 12:17pm EST): I've recently been informed that a law firm which is likely to be one that would try get these mirrors taken down has been visiting this mirror site as well as others. With that said, there is a possibility that I may have to remove this site in the near future because like everyone else, I can't afford to go to court to fight it. Luckly, it seems fairly unlikely that any law firm will ever be able to get rid of all these mirrors at this point (there are currently 41 in 8 different countries and this list is growing every day). However, I have only seen very few mirror _lists_ like this one anyplace. If anyone has the resources, it might be wise to mirror this list of mirrors as well so that the right people will still know that these mirrors exist.

Here is a 2600 story with more details on how rhythm.cx was shut down.

Current Mirrors Last updated: Wed, Jan 19, 12:13am EST
Numbers are only for the maintainer's convenience

We apologize for the length of time between updates. This list has gotten quite large and thus more difficult to maintain.

Much thanks to this site for listing mirrors of the mirror lists.

Mirrors part 1 by Anonymous Coward · 2000-01-16 07:10 · Score: 0 · on New DVD Lawsuits Filed by the MPAA (UPDATED)

Note: This mirror list has been copied from http://www.humpin.org/decss/, on January 2nd 2000 13:13 GMT

Mirrors since 28-Dec-99 added by me.
To my main DVD page (containing list of lists of mirrors) Visit Humpin! (No, it's not what you think!)

Temporary restraining order DENIED!

Thanks to the efforts of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the organization and support provided by a few of our fellow defendants we are still here! Another hearing is scheduled for January 14th.

We would like to point out to all of the mirror sites with things like "fuck the lawyers" on them that it is because of a generous group of lawyers that we are still here. These lawyers are working for free (or much less than they could get by going over to the Dark Side) and don't deserve this kind of abuse.

Here is the EFF's stance on this case.
If you need a REAL reason to host these files, try reading this. Truth has never been more purely distilled.

Save a copy of this web page now!

We have just been informed that the DVD Copy Control Association is seeking a restraining order against us (named as "Doe 28") for distributing DeCSS and linking to pages that distribute it and linking to pages that link to pages that distribute it.

Section 48 of this request states that we supposedly "have received notice through the MPA and refused to remove the information at issue". This is absolutely false! We have never received any such request (from the MPA or anybody else for that matter) and we obviously were not given the opportunity to refuse! Either Jared Bobrow needs to go back to law school or the DVD CCA needs to get a new firm. This is the kind of sloppy work that could get an important document thrown out.

Here is a 2600 story on this.

Explanation on legality of this information

The software (source as well as binaries) offered on this site can be freely redistributed because it was published under the GNU General Public License. The purpose of this software is not illegal copying of DVD disks. It is meant to provide information necessary to be able to program a DVD player for Linux. To do this, the CSS system needs to be incorporated in the player. Recently the (very weak) DVD content scrambling system was deciphered, freeing the way for a Linux DVD player. The CSS system is not a copy protection system, since it does not prevent copying of the disk. Writing information about the way an encryption scheme functions is completely legal. The source code and binaries on this site are completely legal too, since they contain no code from the DVD consortium or its members. The sources and programs on this site were written by third parties using clean-room reverse engineering methods which are (ready?) completly legal.

Attention www.rhythm.cx was hosting a list of mirrors for these files. That list of mirrors has been replaced with a page reading "This site has been taken down for legal reasons." Here's what the maintainer put on the site the day it was shut down:

NOTE (Thu, Nov 11, 12:17pm EST): I've recently been informed that a law firm which is likely to be one that would try get these mirrors taken down has been visiting this mirror site as well as others. With that said, there is a possibility that I may have to remove this site in the near future because like everyone else, I can't afford to go to court to fight it. Luckly, it seems fairly unlikely that any law firm will ever be able to get rid of all these mirrors at this point (there are currently 41 in 8 different countries and this list is growing every day). However, I have only seen very few mirror _lists_ like this one anyplace. If anyone has the resources, it might be wise to mirror this list of mirrors as well so that the right people will still know that these mirrors exist.

Here is a 2600 story with more details on how rhythm.cx was shut down.

Current Mirrors Last updated: Fri, Dec 31, 8:18pm EST
Numbers are only for the maintainer's convenience

Much thanks to this site for listing mirrors of the mirror lists.

OOPS - Trying Humpin list again by Anonymous Coward · 1999-12-30 11:08 · Score: 0 · on DVD Hearing Victory: We Won - For Now

You have one bat and there are 100 million holes Visit Humpin! (No, it's not what you think!)

Temporary restraining order DENIED!

Thanks to the efforts of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the organization and support provided by a few of our fellow defendants we are still here! Another hearing is scheduled for January 14th.

We would like to point out to all of the mirror sites with things like "fuck the lawyers" on them that it is because of a generous group of lawyers that we are still here. These lawyers are working for free (or much less than they could get by going over to the Dark Side) and don't deserve this kind of abuse.

Here is the EFF's stance on this case.
If you need a REAL reason to host these files, try reading this. Truth has never been more purely distilled.

Save a copy of this web page now!

We have just been informed that the DVD Copy Control Association is seeking a restraining order against us (named as "Doe 28") for distributing DeCSS and linking to pages that distribute it and linking to pages that link to pages that distribute it.

Section 48 of this request states that we supposedly "have received notice through the MPA and refused to remove the information at issue". This is absolutely false! We have never received any such request (from the MPA or anybody else for that matter) and we obviously were not given the opportunity to refuse! Either Jared Bobrow needs to go back to law school or the DVD CCA needs to get a new firm. This is the kind of sloppy work that could get an important document thrown out.

Here is a 2600 story on this.

Explanation on legality of this information

The software (source as well as binaries) offered on this site can be freely redistributed because it was published under the GNU General Public License. The purpose of this software is not illegal copying of DVD disks. It is meant to provide information necessary to be able to program a DVD player for Linux. To do this, the CSS system needs to be incorporated in the player. Recently the (very weak) DVD content scrambling system was deciphered, freeing the way for a Linux DVD player. The CSS system is not a copy protection system, since it does not prevent copying of the disk. Writing information about the way an encryption scheme functions is completely legal. The source code and binaries on this site are completely legal too, since they contain no code from the DVD consortium or its members. The sources and programs on this site were written by third parties using clean-room reverse engineering methods which are (ready?) completly legal.

Attention www.rhythm.cx was hosting a list of mirrors for these files. That list of mirrors has been replaced with a page reading "This site has been taken down for legal reasons." Here's what the maintainer put on the site the day it was shut down:

NOTE (Thu, Nov 11, 12:17pm EST): I've recently been informed that a law firm which is likely to be one that would try get these mirrors taken down has been visiting this mirror site as well as others. With that said, there is a possibility that I may have to remove this site in the near future because like everyone else, I can't afford to go to court to fight it. Luckly, it seems fairly unlikely that any law firm will ever be able to get rid of all these mirrors at this point (there are currently 41 in 8 different countries and this list is growing every day). However, I have only seen very few mirror _lists_ like this one anyplace. If anyone has the resources, it might be wise to mirror this list of mirrors as well so that the right people will still know that these mirrors exist.

Here is a 2600 story with more details on how rhythm.cx was shut down.

Current Mirrors Last updated: Thu, Dec 30, 2:55am EST
Numbers are only for the maintainer's convenience

Much thanks to this site for listing mirrors of the mirror lists.

This site contains some good technical documentation as well as more source code that the DVD consorium's lawyers would rather you not see:
http://crypto.gq.nu/

Semi-broken Mirrors
(These mirrors sometimes work and sometimes don't)
http://joe.to/storage/files/decss.zip
ftp://eris.giga.or.at/pub/hacker/crypt/ DVD/
http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/files/D eCSS.zip and http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/f iles/css-auth.tar.gz
http://www.discordia.de/decss/DeCSS.zip and http://www.discordia.de/decss/css-aut h_tar.gz and http://www.discordia.de/decss/LiVid.tgz

Broken Mirrors
(These are listed here for the notification of the people who run them)
http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderman/css-auth.ta r.gz
ftp://mikpos.dyndns.org/pub/cssdvd.zip
ftp://195.115.63.44/pub/DeCSS.zip
http://home.c2i.net/buddha9/
http://frodo.campus.luth.se/~iocc/tip.html
http://home.t-online.de/home/skinner01/decss.zip
ftp://ftp.firehead.org/pub/
http://freeweb.digiweb.com/business/avoiderman/
http://www.hack.b3.nu/

Mirrors shut down by The Man
(A moment of silence, please.)
http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/DeCSS.zip
http://dvdcracked.tvheaven.com/index.html
http://home.worldonline.dk/~andersa/download/DeCSS .zip
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10079-100-143 3209.html?tag=st.dl.10001_104_3.lst.titl edetail
http://www.theresistance.net/files.html
http://cryptome.org/dvd-css.htm
http://www.d.umn.edu/~dchan/css/
http://caspian.twu.net/dvd/
http://mclaughlin.orange.ca.us/~andrew/
ftp://134.173.94.44

Mirrors by Anonymous Coward · 1999-12-29 06:42 · Score: 0 · on DVD Hearing Today - Are You Ready to Rumble?

You have one bat and there are 100 million holes Visit Humpin! (No, it's not what you think!)

Save a copy of this web page now!

We have just been informed that the DVD Copy Control Association is seeking a restraining order against us (named as "Doe 28") for distributing DeCSS and linking to pages that distribute it and linking to pages that link to pages that distribute it.

Section 48 of this request states that we supposedly "have received notice through the MPA and refused to remove the information at issue". This is absolutely false! We have never received any such request (from the MPA or anybody else for that matter) and we obviously were not given the opportunity to refuse! Either Jared Bobrow needs to go back to law school or the DVD CCA needs to get a new firm. This is the kind of sloppy work that could get an important document thrown out.

Here is a 2600 story on this.

Explanation on legality of this information

The software (source as well as binaries) offered on this site can be freely redistributed because it was published under the GNU General Public License. The purpose of this software is not illegal copying of DVD disks. It is meant to provide information necessary to be able to program a DVD player for Linux. To do this, the CSS system needs to be incorporated in the player. Recently the (very weak) DVD content scrambling system was deciphered, freeing the way for a Linux DVD player. The CSS system is not a copy protection system, since it does not prevent copying of the disk. Writing information about the way an encryption scheme functions is completely legal. The source code and binaries on this site are completely legal too, since they contain no code from the DVD consortium or its members. The sources and programs on this site were written by third parties using clean-room reverse engineering methods which are (ready?) completly legal.

Attention www.rhythm.cx was hosting a list of mirrors for these files. That list of mirrors has been replaced with a page reading "This site has been taken down for legal reasons." Here's what the maintainer put on the site the day it was shut down:

NOTE (Thu, Nov 11, 12:17pm EST): I've recently been informed that a law firm which is likely to be one that would try get these mirrors taken down has been visiting this mirror site as well as others. With that said, there is a possibility that I may have to remove this site in the near future because like everyone else, I can't afford to go to court to fight it. Luckly, it seems fairly unlikely that any law firm will ever be able to get rid of all these mirrors at this point (there are currently 41 in 8 different countries and this list is growing every day). However, I have only seen very few mirror _lists_ like this one anyplace. If anyone has the resources, it might be wise to mirror this list of mirrors as well so that the right people will still know that these mirrors exist.

Here is a 2600 story with more details on how rhythm.cx was shut down.

Current Mirrors Last updated: Wed, Dec 29, 3:14pm EST
Numbers are only for the maintainer's convenience

Much thanks to this site for listing mirrors of the mirror lists.

This site contains some good technical documentation as well as more source code that the DVD consorium's lawyers would rather you not see:
http://crypto.gq.nu/

Semi-broken Mirrors
(These mirrors sometimes work and sometimes don't)
http://joe.to/storage/files/decss.zip
ftp://eris.giga.or.at/pub/hacker/crypt/ DVD/
http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/files/D eCSS.zip and http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/f iles/css-auth.tar.gz
http://www.discordia.de/decss/DeCSS.zip and http://www.discordia.de/decss/css-aut h_tar.gz and http://www.discordia.de/decss/LiVid.tgz

Broken Mirrors
(These are listed here for the notification of the people who run them)
http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderman/css-auth.ta r.gz
ftp://mikpos.dyndns.org/pub/cssdvd.zip
ftp://195.115.63.44/pub/DeCSS.zip
http://home.c2i.net/buddha9/
http://frodo.campus.luth.se/~iocc/tip.html
http://home.t-online.de/home/skinner01/decss.zip
ftp://ftp.firehead.org/pub/
http://freeweb.digiweb.com/business/avoiderman/
http://www.hack.b3.nu/

Mirrors shut down by The Man
(A moment of silence, please.)
http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/DeCSS.zip
http://dvdcracked.tvheaven.com/index.html
http://home.worldonline.dk/~andersa/download/DeCSS .zip
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10079-100-143 3209.html?tag=st.dl.10001_104_3.lst.titl edetail
http://www.theresistance.net/files.html
http://cryptome.org/dvd-css.htm
http://www.d.umn.edu/~dchan/css/
http://caspian.twu.net/dvd/
http://mclaughlin.orange.ca.us/~andrew/
ftp://134.173.94.44

Re:Decent webmail? by Anonymous Coward · 1999-12-28 20:14 · Score: 0 · on Microsoft Hotmail/Passport Service Interrupted:UPDATED

I have a free one hat I have been using courtesy of a university kid up in chicago who posted his stuff on tucows. it's default interface is seriously some of the ugliest html I have ever seen, but you can edit the source, it's free, and compiles into a c++ cgi , nice and fast. besides, I wasn't looking for shock me, rock me html out of the program, since everyone that uses it probably wants to make it integrate with the rest of their site theme. oh yeah, it's absolutely free. abd you can get it here as soon as this guy gets back from christmas vacation and plugs his linux box back into the college network. no, I am not an anonymous coward, I am just too lazy to hunt down my slashdot password after losing the cookie.

A nice summary of the Trademark Law by the+eric+conspiracy · 1999-12-27 07:54 · Score: 2 · on DVD CCA Applies for Restraining Order

Folks who got the letter might want to take a look at this. It isn't pretty.

Re:A simple way to beat the system. by the+eric+conspiracy · 1999-12-27 07:48 · Score: 2 · on DVD CCA Applies for Restraining Order

This stuff was never publicly released, correct? So why don't we patent it?

Because you are NOT the inventor, that's why. Duh.

You can try claiming that you were the inventor, but if you are caught you could be proven guilty of patent fraud.

People considering posting this code on their web site may want to examine this. It includes the interesting news that by disseminating this bit of code you may have been violating a federal law that carries a maximum 10 year prison sentence and $500,000 fine.

Re:TNT2 or G400? by alisdair+mcdiarmid · 1999-11-25 04:13 · Score: 1 · on NVidia releasing OpenGL ICD by End of Year

The GLX homepage was just updated this Tuesday. There's now a GLX Quickstart MiniHOWTO, a link to some RPMs (I'll try using alien on them to see if they work with Debian) and a better FAQ.

Plus there's a glx-users list for stupid people like me to ask questions on how to use GLX, as opposed to pissing off John Carmack by asking on glx-dev.

I should have known this would be the case before I posted to slashdot :-)

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