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  1. No, really, what's Sun up to? by argent · · Score: 1 · on Java SE 6 For Mac OS X
    Which is interesting from a historical perspective, by that I mean it tells us why Apple decided to take on the job several years ago. But it really doesn't answer the question of why the Java community isn't coming back to Sun with "look, Apple doesn't really have anything at stake here, they don't see the success of Java as important, the bastards, but whether they're bastards or not you're the ones who've got a dog in the hunt and you're the ones who've got to cover this trail."

    Alternatively, the FreeBSD port of Java seems to run on Leopard:

    February 14, 2008: Greg Lewis has released the fourth patchset (patchlevel 4, "Mach 1") for the JDK(TM) 1.6.0 software. This release now supports MacOS X Leopard and NetBSD/amd64. Information on downloading the patchset can be found at http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk16.html.


    What's the current license situation with Java, anyway? I thought they had gone to a real open source license, but the interstitial license page for the "Mach 1" download implies otherwise. Is this something else that Sun could be doing a better job of clearing up?
  2. Re:FreeBSD by NutscrapeSucks · · Score: 1 · on Why FreeBSD

    By the standards of the FreeBSD project, apparently.

    See http://www.freebsd.org/java/dists/15.html
    who link here:
    http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk15.ht ml

  3. Re:Netbeans and Eclipse by Earlybird · · Score: 1 · on Netbeans 4.1 Released

    The FreeBSD Java home page says: "The current release of the JDK and JRE available via the FreeBSD Foundation is 1.3.1". As for 1.4.x, use "in a production environment is at your own risk", according to the porting team. The Java 5 port is, as you say, alpha quality.

  4. Re:who cares? by frost22 · · Score: 1 · on Java Fallout: OO.o 2.0 and the FOSS Community
    Hmmm... Name one I can install on FreeBSD.
    FreeBSD Java:
    http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/index.ht ml
    Sometimes you want to yell in frustration.
    That one is a port of the Sun JRE. And it is source (diffs) only. And Sun does absolutely everything in their power to prevent those folks from making this easy to install - they are not even allowed to automate building it from source.

    This is exactly the shit that gets me up in arms.
    What I don't understand is why you are asking these questions on Slashdot, as the answers are easily available to anyone with a web browser and access to Google?
    because those answers are not answers at all, and are mostly fake or misinterpreted by Sun apologists like you.
  5. Re:Java support? by markv242 · · Score: 1 · on FreeBSD 5.3 on the Horizon
    You're absolutely right. However there's a difference between the developer claiming "usable for most tasks. However [...]" and a developer claiming a version is a "Production" version.

    I find it rather funny that most of the responses claim that I haven't looked at the ports tree. On the contrary, I have kept very close tabs on the advancement of Java under FreeBSD. Back when our app ran under 1.1.8, we happily deployed FreeBSD. I will be first in line to deploy it again when the 1.4 JDK is bumped up to production-ready.

  6. Re:What's the problem, exactly? by mi · · Score: 1 · on Sun will Open Java's Source
    then FreeBSD are in violation of the license.

    IANAL, and neither are you, presumably. I'd wait for Sun to express their opinion on the subject. Since they recently (after years of the jdk-ports' existance) officially certified the "Diablo" binary distribution (JDK13 and JRE13 for FreeBSD), I doubt, they consider FreeBSD to be in violation of their license.

    what do you do now if you find a bug in your sdk? nothing...

    You are welcome to fix it and rebuild. You are also welcome to post the fix (but not the rebuilt binary) anywhere you want. Anyone is welcome to automate such rebuilds by fetching the fixes you post.

    The FreeBSD ports are such automations. The latest bsd-jdk131-patches-9.tar.gz, applied to j2sdk-1_3_1-src.tar.gz from Sun is 642883 bytes. Fetchable from Greg's Java pages.

    And GNU is quite prone to introducing its own "embrace-and-extensions", viz. gcc, gawk, etc.
    we can hardly blame them though...

    This is not about the blame. Sun simply does not want Java to fork into multiple javas, as happened to C, C++ (#ifdef _BORLAND...#elif __GNUC__) and other languagues. I tend to agree...

  7. Things are changing... by cymen · · Score: 1 · on Linux JVMs Running Under BSD?

    JDK 1.4.1 patchset 3 on FreeBSD (daemonnews.org)

    points to:

    JDK 1.4.1 patchset 3 on FreeBSD (at freebsdforums.org)

    the patches:

    http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk14.ht ml

    Note they are ALPHA! But this is good news for native jdk on freebsd.

  8. Re:Dammit... it is out there by kuiken · · Score: 1 · on FreeBSD 4.2 Is Out

    java version "1.2.2"
    Classic VM (build jdk1.2.2-FreeBSD:root:2000/11/18-16:58, green threads, nojit)

    you can get it to work just check out www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom /ja va/index.html