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Comments · 7
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Re:Now you know it is a STATION WAGON, right?
Sort of like this?
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FIAT money backed by a new car
If fiat money is "counterfeit", would FIAT money backed by the promise of A NEW CAR!!!11 * be any better?
* Imitate the voice of The Price Is Right announcer here.
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Re:Fixed costs & whining
Assuming the figures from GP are correct, let's do the math:
A Tesla sells for $73,570 with a 25% margin, meaning it costs 0.75 * 73,570 = 55,178 (rounding up).
A Fiat 500e sells for $32,650 (per the summary), and loses $14k per car (per the CEO), making it costs 32,650+14,000 = 46,650
I don't see a good reason why the 500e cost is as close to the Tesla as what it is, given the vast disparity in specs:
- Horsepower: 111 (Fiat) vs.310 (Tesla)
- Battery: 24kWh (Fiat) vs. 85kWh (Tesla)
- Range: 87mi (Fiat) vs 265mi (Tesla)
Fiat engineers either suck or the company is dragging their feet so they can whine about being victimized by the evil emissions standards.
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Re:Raise the Price
"The price difference is $15350"
But according to their website, there are up to $13,000 worth of "incentives and credits" available. -
Fiat currency? Give me money I can drive.
Q. When is Fiat currency not fiat currency?
A. When it's pegged to the price of an automobile.Actual Fiat currency would be an interesting concept, sort of like taking Canadian Tire money one step further. People could exchange goods and services for gift certificates denominated in micro-Fiats, and any licensed driver could turn in a million micro-Fiats for (imitates The Price Is Right announcer) A NEW CAR!!!!11
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Re:Range is the issueThe Tesla is a much larger car all around, not just the battery.
A better comparison to the BMW i3 might be the Fiat 500e (sold only in California). It's even a bit smaller than the BMW, and gets "only" 122/108 MPGe vs the 138/111 for the BMW. So, I do find the BMW impressive. However the Fiat starts at $32K which almost $10K less than the BMW. Making a car light without other sacrifices does require more expensive materials, so I would expect more from the BMW than the Fiat, and evidently it delivers.
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Re:Oh look!
Would 500 bitcoins look as ugly as this? I never thought I'd see a production vehicle uglier than an AMC Gremlin, but then I never thought I'd see a president worse than Reagan either.