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Fracking fluids don't contain any "refinery waste"--they're mostly water and sand, along with various chemicals that help keep the fluid flow laminar rather than turbulent (primarily friction reducers).

Uh no. And also no. How much are you being paid to repeat those lies? If it's nothing, you're a spectacular dumbfuck.

Even the patented compounds are required to have Material Safety Data Sheets onsite and available for anyone who wants to see them, which essentially disclose the contents, just like the contents of your food are disclosed on labels. They don't tell you the exact percentages but they tell you what is in the mixture. I know this because I work on wellsites.

I'm in favor of having information publicly available (for all departments, not just the EPA) and the argument about policy being made on secret information is compelling.

The composition of the toxic cocktail that's used in horizontal fracturing is kept away from the public because it's a "trade secret". Do you believe the EPA should not be able to restrict the high-pressure injection of toxic chemicals into the aquifer because the information isn't "public"?

Or are people going to have to be able to strip paint with their drinking water before they'll be able to find out what's in it? Because freedom?

Here is your trade secret:
https://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used
Don't tell the evil petroleum companies that I let you know about their trade secret (I use HTTPS in the URL so no one will know).

Yes, evil biocides like those listed here, which include Quaternary ammonia chloride, a massively dangerous chemical "commonly used in the foodservice industry as sanitizing agents". Such a danger - things used for santizing food are used in fracking!

Even worse, glutaraldehyde, "used to disinfect medical and dental equipment." Meaning you've had plenty of this stuff already in your mouth (assuming you actually use a dentist).

Get a fucking clue, educate yourself.

http://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used

It sort of looks to me like (after a 2 second google search) all the chemicals are disclosed. Or do you have a source that says otherwise?

The chemical that they use in fracking is well know. It is very dangerous...

Oh yeh, the chemical they pump into the ground that my friend delivers is commonly known as dihydrous-oxide..

Bull. Fucking. Shit. They add all sorts of chemicals into that water before they pump it into the ground.

But don't try to find out what chemicals frackers might be pumping down oil wells and into your groundwater.

http://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used http://marcellusdrilling.com/2010/06/list-of-78-chemicals-used-in-hydraulic-fracturing-fluid-in-pennsylvania/ http://www.frackcheckwv.net/2011/04/17/investigation-yields-list-of-chemicals-used-in-fracking-many-are-known-carcinogens-regulated-pollutants/

The idea that the chemicals are unknown is horse poop.

Here's a list: http://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used

The companies involved just don't tell Greenpeace etc. what the chemicals are, and apparently Greenpeace etc. would prefer to make a big political stink out of it rather than fund a GC-MS lab to run the analysis and find out that it's actually stuff like polysaccharides sand and which will destroy their talking points, which of course opens the question why are they making such a stupid lot of fuss about the whole thing?

But you can bet they know.

The regulatory agencies for sure know what the chemicals are - sometimes they aren't allowed to tell others because the states protect the trade secrets involved. But not always.

A lot of the stuff is disclosed on sites like this: http://fracfocus.org/ - several states now require drillers upload the chemical compositions to this site as part of their permitting process. Texas for example.

http://03646f4.netsolhost.com/?p=218

Also of course if you patent something you have to disclose or the patent isn't valid. So that's always an interesting source of info as well.

These fluids are pretty boring actually. Viscosifier, proppant, and corrosion inhibitor. In fact if you do a Google search you'll come up with articles on which ones to use.

Last time I posted this info on slashdot I was modded down to Troll in less than 30 seconds. I wonder how long it will take today?

The idea that the chemicals are unknown is horse poop.

Here's a list: http://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used

The companies involved just don't tell Greenpeace etc. what the chemicals are, and apparently Greenpeace etc. would prefer to make a big political stink out of it rather than fund a GC-MS lab to run the analysis and find out that it's actually stuff like polysaccharides sand and which will destroy their talking points, which of course opens the question why are they making such a stupid lot of fuss about the whole thing?

But you can bet they know.

The regulatory agencies for sure know what the chemicals are - sometimes they aren't allowed to tell others because the states protect the trade secrets involved. But not always.

A lot of the stuff is disclosed on sites like this: http://fracfocus.org/ - several states now require drillers upload the chemical compositions to this site as part of their permitting process. Texas for example.

http://03646f4.netsolhost.com/?p=218

Also of course if you patent something you have to disclose or the patent isn't valid. So that's always an interesting source of info as well.

These fluids are pretty boring actually. Viscosifier, proppant, and corrosion inhibitor. In fact if you do a Google search you'll come up with articles on which ones to use.

Last time I posted this info on slashdot I was modded down to Troll in less than 30 seconds. I wonder how long it will take today?

ORLY?

What is this site then?

http://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used

Compositions of many of the fluids are freely available because of complaints about the issue.

Here's one source of information:

http://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used

not secret at all, please visit: http://fracfocus.org/