Domain: fusionio.com
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Re:wish list
http://www.fusionio.com/
Not on the market yet.
Doesn't have the ram, but then given its performance figures you shouldn't care (and if you do, let's not forget you're asking it to do what your OS already does). Same goes for your write-back: at 600MB/s, why?
They're targeting 30$/gb.
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Re:With the Exception of What???
That depends, doesn't it?
For example, this device here http://www.fusionio.com/ if affordable enough, would beat any RAID array you're ever likely to put in a workstation. In fact, it's hard to beat a device like this with ANY commercial RAID array. NetApp 3070's can't pull those numbers, and when they manage to get close, you're talking 14 15K FC drives.
Other "features" of your RAID array might be questionable as well. Like the power. And the noise.
One final factor. At SOME price point the fact that there is a ratio difference in price points becomes irrelevant. If you could get a 64GB fusionio card for 20 bucks, you wouldn't really care that a 64GB hard drive is 20 cents. The 100:1 difference in price is nothing, because both prices are nothing. At that scale and price point.
"Consumer price insensitivity" is the term. At some price, the price doesn't matter.
That day WILL arrive.
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Re:What about real performance
http://www.fusionio.com/ - assuming this ever materializes as a product, it may be something to look at.
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Re:With the Exception of What???
It's not all one way or the other. At some price point, there are consumers who will buy the fast thing, just to have SOME of the fast thing. One is not required to have only one thing inside one's computer. For example, I could make productive use of a 32 or 64GB flash system if it were fast enough and cheap enough RIGHT NOW, regardless of the fact that I have a 500GB SATA drive in my system in order to store movies and images.
There are also valuable business applications for the same technology. If 64GB flash were "relatively affordable" and noticeably faster and more effective than a good RAID array, then these flash drives could be an important component of an enterprise storage system. Think "cache times ten, plus non volatile."
I'd love to build a Lustre Cluster where each of the nodes had one of these as a persistent backing store for cache: http://www.fusionio.com./ As an added plus, their stated market price of $30/GB is ALMOST worth it.
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Fusion IO drive
There are companies moving in this direction. For example check out:
http://www.fusionio.com/
Up to 640GB NAND flash. Supposedly 700 MB/s transfer rate. -
Re:Don't Forget Fusion IO's PCIe Card DriveFrom the FusionIO website:
The ioDrive(TM) is designed to deliver 87,500 IOPS (input/output per second @ 8K packets) per PCIe x4 card, while achieving sustained data rates of 700MB/sec (Read) and 600MB/sec (Write) -- making the ioDrive(TM) almost a thousand times faster than any existing disk drive.
The OP apparently confused you when he incorrectly used Mb instead of MB. -
Re:And it should be free, too!An SSD ought to have speeds comparable to RAM, in the Gbps range, and until one does, the rest are just useless ripoffs. But, of course, that's just my opinion^H^H^H^H^H^H^H desire with no basis in what's actually technologically feasible. Fixed that for you. ^H without googling or even reading previous posts because I prefer to assume that I know everything. Fixed that for you. http://www.fusionio.com/
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Good to hear but there are other options
This drive doesn't outperform MTRON (http://www.mtron.net/english/). They announced 120 MB/s read, 90 MB/s write drives and they are shipping 100 MB/s read, 80 MB/s write drives already. The SSD-based Fusion IO card (http://www.fusionio.com/) at the claimed 800 MB/s read and 600 MB/s write speed would beat both them handily. Still, it's good to see a major manufacturer up its speeds.
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FAQ
For a lot of these questions, you can look at the FAQ here
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Talking to the company at demoHaving talked to people at demo, what it pretty much came down to is this... is this a product we should be excited about? Definitely
... is it something that will do well right away? Not at all. The price has to drop before this becomes a really valid and useful tool for the GENERAL PUBLIC / Company. But there are a lot of companies out there willing to pay too much money to get these. Hopefully these big companies buy these up and fund this project as QUICKLY as possible. 7 of these side by side at 320/640 gigs a piece is a SCARY/powerful server.That being said, a few of the guys there said that they pretty much expect these (at the beginning) to do the best sales for companies that are looking to get really really fast database servers going. NOT for scsi san replacements (it's silly to spend $100,000 for something you could get for 10,000 hard drive space wise). Eventually as the price drops... i know of a handful of people who would EASILY pay 1000$ to get one of these on a gaming rig even if it was only 100 gigs. But that right there is already 1/3rd of the price of what it currently is. (assuming it's around 30$ a gig).
Another thing to keep in mind that came up in the conversations... since these are tiny, think about the cost per server rack... and think of the cost per electricity to run. If you take those into consideration, these are actually less expensive that most people would think! A massive rack of hard drives could cost a lot of money in a co-location
... and a lot of electricity to run it all... But then again, we're talking about savings on servers, not general in home use.When this gets to about 1/3rd of it's current price, that's when you will see these things become TRUELY mainstream both to the average company and home users (be it rich ones who need the latest and greatest).
Fusioni-io -- Link to their site.
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Re:write limit?
http://www.fusionio.com/faq.html says the following:
Doesn't NAND Flash wear out?
ioMemory(TM) uses sophisticated error correction techniques and wear-leveling to minimize fatigue and extend the service life of the NAND components within the ioDrive(TM), which results in a service life of eight years compared to the five year service life of mechanical hard drives. When an ioDrive's(TM) ioMemory(TM) does finally start to fatigue, the result is a reduction in available free space - no data is lost and the system remains operational.