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Only on slashdot would this get modded down. You're right, he expected that he could send a letter to the CEO and they would see the error of their ways. Unfortunately, he also mentioned that he had
I have also confirmed that the Harvester source code - which I, as a Senior Programmer, am authorized to access - includes Java code which collects lists of such vulnerable computers, called "open proxies," from web sites that maintain lists of them. I have also found the Java code which uses such proxies, without the permission of their owners, to connect to the sites that HMS harvests. The offending source code was written by Rob DiMarco, Tim McCune, and Jason Franklin. ...
Therefore, I cannot proceed with my current project, which has as its primary purpose facilitating the loading of harvested data into the Data Pump. And in order to protect myself from the repercussions of HMS's illegal and immoral activities, I am carefully considering my legal options, including notifying the appropriate authorities.
I.e, I may tell the police that you are breaking the law, and the proof will be the copy of the code I have.
Now if you're an unprincipled scum bag, do you back down and stop your illegal money making scheme and hope that Chip doesn't go to the police, or do you zap him with legal action? That's right,legal action
Note, I'm not saying it's right, just that Chip should have expected this sort of thing. Why the hell did he work with these people anyway, I'd have been more concerned that they would stiff me on my last invoice than that someone may manage to sue them in future, or tarnish my reputation. -
robots.txtI tried to get the page with archive.org... http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.healthmar
k etscience.com/customers/customers.html: Look at this!!!!"Robots.txt Query Exclusion.
We're sorry, access to http://www.healthmarketscience.com/customers/cust
o mers.html has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt"If you read http://geeksunite.net/outrage.pdf, his letter to the company, robots.txt is NOT used by their software. It IS on their site, so yes, they know about it.
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Re:Am I missing something?...he essentially blackmailed his employer...
And, pray tell, where is the blackmail? I have read this letter and it just states what HMS was doing and its being illegal. Asking the company to stop doing it, refusing to cooperate on it, and warning on telling the authorities amounts to blackmail now? I guess there's this hidden paragraph where he asks for money or some other compensation. When you find it, please tell me. Until then, your blackmail charge falls flat.
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Re:Am I missing something?
Anyway if he had resigned how would it have helped him one iota? He'd still be facing a frivolous and expensive lawsuit and have all his stuff jacked.
Well, aside from the wrongfull lawsuit, if he had resigned under threat he could have applied for unemployment benifits and get his employer embroiled in arbiration (a free and apparently abritrary by some standards method of dispute resolution.) Not only would that help tie up the company and give backing to his (potential) counter-suit, but he might make some money to help with the bills.
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Finally, if I were a high-profile FOSS developer, I'd invest in a wireless adapter and a decent SOHO SAN box. Put that baby inside a wall with a UPS. It's impressive what you can do with a drywall knife, some 12 gauge homegrade wire, and a decent amount of drywall patch. Let them raid all his stuff, his data would have had remained 'safe' and all his HD's clean (save any cache/tmp/~ files.) Hell, get paranoid and setup the SAN to re-encrypt the drives and shut off if certain files aren't touched every X minutes.
Chip's problem now is that 100% of his admissable evidence is in the hands of a known immoral and hostile agent. There is no practical way to back up his claims without more money. Any 'evidence' he gets back from those machines may be unreliably tampered after the police's uber-windows nerd gets done trashing his probablly non-windows boxen.
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OMITTED from the Company's Pleadings,
UN-INVESTIGATED by the Detective,
it caused IMMEDIATE ACTION by the CEO,
READ the LETTER that started it all!Why 23 million telecommuters need to be worried about this case
Or: How your life can land into the "wrong hands".Twenty-three million telecommuters (IATC 2003) access their employer's network from home. Some use their own personal computers, while others use a computer their employer assigned to them by their employer. Some bring their laptop to and from work. Do you? Should a dispute arise between you and your employer, you may be exposed to the legal tactics and strategies used by Chip's employer.
The company can file a police report, show logs of your network activity, convince the often insufficiently sophisticated police that your behavior is suspicious and claim they are in "fear" of the loss of their property and/or trade secrets and potentially millions of dollars of profits . If you're a programmer, that is your job description permits you to "appropriate" huge source code downloads with only even less uploads - exposing you to a "claim" of theft of your company's confidential and proprietary information and trade secrets . All the while you are having an exchage with the CEO by -
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PA Code by Case Subject Search & Seizure
Return of Property
Misappropriation
Trade Secrets
Harvesting/Open Proxies
Related LinkCase Documents The OMITTED Letter The Search Warrant Plaintiff DefendantInterveners
Timeline of EventsPlease Contribute. Thank you for spending time on our site. It will be updated frequently. Please come back.
None of the views expressed in the website constitute the views of the Armstrong & Carosella PC law firm, or any
principals or employees, or agents or experts who have been retained in any capacity in connection with the case.
Information on this site is for educational purposes. Case Caption: Health Market Science, Inc. v Charles H. Salzenberg, Jr..
Court of Common Pleas of Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Case Number: 05-11918
Chip Salzenberg Defense Fund
Please mirror this site. Learn from it and protect yourself.
We need your financial assistance to continue the fight.
Donate Now.
OMITTED from the Company's Pleadings,
UN-INVESTIGATED by the Detective,
it caused IMMEDIATE ACTION by the CEO,
READ the LETTER that started it all!Why 23 million telecommuters need to be worried about this case
Or: How your life can land into the "wrong hands".Twenty-three million telecommuters (IATC 2003) access their employer's network from home. Some use their own personal computers, while others use a computer their employer assigned to them by their employer. Some bring their laptop to and from work. Do you? Should a dispute arise between you and your employer, you may be exposed to the legal tactics and strategies used by Chip's employer.
The company can file a police report, show logs of your network activity, convince the often insufficiently sophisticated police that your behavior is suspicious and claim they are in "fear" of the loss of their property and/or trade secrets and potentially millions of dollars of profits . If you're a programmer, that is your job description permits you to "appropriate" huge source code downloads with only even less uploads - exposing you to a "claim" of theft of your company's confidential and proprietary information and trade secrets . All the while you are having an exchage with the CEO by