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Alternatives ... ?
I stopped buying music years ago when I had a really busy time studying. After that period of withdrawal I heard about some free music labels, got curious and never looked back again.
In the beginning I was impressed by programs that automatically download free music, based on ratings you give.
Today I have a quite large collection of free tracks and albums. From time to time I visit, some, of those. All that is 100% annoyance-, tool-, ad-, DRM- and RIAA-free. -
Compared to Gnomoradio?
Can an Indy contributor or user compare it to Gnomoradio or other prior work in this area?
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Other similar projects
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"safety" of filesharingBitTorrent is inherently "safer" than any P2P (like KaZaa). Can you be busted for sharing illegal files? Sure. But.. You are at most only in trouble for the ONE copyright violation from one
.torrent on one tracker. I'm not giving any legal advice here, but if you were to download one file for what you believe to be fair use, then they won't be able to come after you like they did with KaZaa users. Instead of the hundreds of shared files, your IP address is now only associated with one.Except the copyright holder only needs one file to hit you with statutory damages of $30,000 to $150,000. And on KaZaa/Gnutella/eDonkey most people have file-listing disabled, so the copyright holder only knows about the one file they found through searching. And even if they did know about all the files, they can only sue you for the ones they hold copyright to. So BitTorrent seems just as dangerous as "standard" means.
Don't forget torrents are time based, ie. you are only sharing file for a certain percentage of the time that
.torrent is being shared. Someone would have to look for all new torrents and connect to the tracker and start logging IP addresses for the lifetime of the .torrentThat's not very difficult. They only need to get your IP once.
plus who is to say you have the whole file? Are you a criminal for sharing part of file, a chunk that is useless on its own?
Sharing just a part of a file is still illegal. It's not sufficient for "fair use" and "being useless on its own" is no defence, as copyright law says nothing about usefulness of the works protected (except the constitution does say copyright is to promote "Invention and the useful arts"...)
If you want safer use FreeNet. If you want legal check out Gnomoradio.
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gnomoradio
gnomoradio has music sharing, playback, and recommendation program for Creative Commons licensed songs. peer-to-peer, legal, and free -- what could be better?
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Re:How long will this last?
Maybe I'm naïve but seems like they can't get away with that. Every song has its license encoded in RDF. From the announcement: "This will be based on the great work that the Creative Commons project has done in machine-readable licensing in the open RDF/XML formats. (A step closer to the semantic web? Kewl =)
<riaa:masterPlan><![CDATA[
Put bogus license information on songs;
Track the song's spread by unsuspecting users [muuuhahaha];
Sue people who thought they were downloading free music -- after all, it says "FREE!" right on the cover;
Uh ...
Watch as judge yawns and tosses out case.]]></riaa:masterPlan>
The project site also says that other non-Creative Commons (free) licenses might be used, and offer to help in designing an RDF version of the desired license. I guess RIAA could call their current system the "0wnj00 License" and use that for the markup. (Adbar, anyone?)
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Re:How long will this last?
Maybe I'm naïve but seems like they can't get away with that. Every song has its license encoded in RDF. From the announcement: "This will be based on the great work that the Creative Commons project has done in machine-readable licensing in the open RDF/XML formats. (A step closer to the semantic web? Kewl =)
<riaa:masterPlan><![CDATA[
Put bogus license information on songs;
Track the song's spread by unsuspecting users [muuuhahaha];
Sue people who thought they were downloading free music -- after all, it says "FREE!" right on the cover;
Uh ...
Watch as judge yawns and tosses out case.]]></riaa:masterPlan>
The project site also says that other non-Creative Commons (free) licenses might be used, and offer to help in designing an RDF version of the desired license. I guess RIAA could call their current system the "0wnj00 License" and use that for the markup. (Adbar, anyone?)
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more legitimate uses
Gnomoradio is also a legitimate use of P2P, though its catalog is much smaller at the moment...
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Re:Would be great for P2P
Gnomoradio can already download music automatically under a CC license. But you're right--right now there is only a limited amount of music on the system, and it is further limited to artists who have explicitly signed up for the system. But it seems promising. See gnomoradio.org
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Re:for non-pro/home broadcasting to take offPeercast has alot of issues with it. First, and most important to me, is while they GPL'ed the software and made the source available they added the additional restriction that modified versions of the Peercast code could not connect to "their network". This is presumably their attempt at security, since anyone could easily act as a Peercast client sharing a stream but replace it with their own content (ie, insert commercials). In reality the license is not likely to stop these kinds of activities, however, it does impede 3rd party development of compatable clients (ie, XMMS plugin for Peercast).
A group of us have been working on another project called IceShare with the hopes of providing the free software community with a real P2P multimedia solution which anyone can use and adopt in their own software. Additionally, IceShare is intended for streaming non-continuous media as well, such as CD tracks or archived videos, whereas a media player could not only use the media as it's being transfered but also seek to a not-yet-downloaded parts of the media (where the download focus changes to the new seekpoint).
There's another attempt at P2P streaming as well called Gnomoradio, currently at version 0.7. I have not tried it myself nor do I know anymore than the announcement they sent out about it.