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Re:1984, anyone?
1984 is about government getting into our private lives. If governments weren't corrupt, corporations wouldn't have the power to be corrupt.
Splitting up the 500 richest corporations and giving the money to the public isn't going to solve any problems. We should have more freedom to skirt around these ridiculous laws, not make laws to strip away more freedom (elect Harry Browne) -
Re:Government is totally being owned by corporatio
I believe that Ralph Nader truly has good intentions, and is generally a guy of decent character...
That being said, I firmly believe that the policies he proposes would greatly *increase* political corruption in the U.S. Nader proposes to vastly increase the size of the federal government and its control over businesses... thereby increasing the incentive for business people to lobby/bribe politicians for favors, access to markets, and thwarting of competitors ( this is how it works in China and Russia which, as I am sure you are aware, have very large governments)
If you want to reduce corruption, get rid of the power that politicians have to dole out special treatment to different corporations and industries.
Favoritism, lobbying and political manipulation doesn't just happen at the Federal level.... it goes all the way down to your local 'Economic Development Commission' - the one that grants 10-year tax breaks and free infrastructure buildout to certain companies that it wants to attract, but not to others.
I'd like to wind up my rant by saying that I agree with the other posters... If you want your freedom, are tired of seeing your tax dollars wasted, want to end the completely absurd War on Drugs, and not leastly want to reduce corruption, Vote Libertarian, from the presidential ticket all the way down to the state and local level.
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Re:The Bar
Anytime I see someone proposing Ralph Nader as an alternative to bigger government I have to laugh. If you like Ralph Nader, fine, but he is a socialist and I guarantee you the government would be far more opressive under him.
"we should tax things we don't like" -- Ralph Nader.
I'll second the previous poster: vote libertarian.
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Re:I like your thoughts
As a Christian I firmly believe in the morals that once made this country the greatest in the world before self-worshipping atheists and liberals told people that committing sins like drug use, extra-marital sex and sodomy were "lifestyle" choices rather than actions with consequences for your eternal soul.
I can't speak for everyone else, but I consider people like yourself the reason why the U.S. has all but given up on Liberty. Think about this, if you will: If it weren't for religion, 90% of all wars that have occurred over the history of mankind would never have happened. This is just my personal estimate, but I think most people would agree that it's pretty damn close. Not everyone wants to live like you. I respect your personal morals, and in fact I live by similar morals. But with all due respect, you don't have one god damn right to tell me whether or not I should use drugs or have pre-marital sex, and neither should the U.S. Government.
If you truly believe in the Libertarian roots of the U.S. Constitution, vote for Harry Brown this election year. If you don't have a clue what the Libertarian party is all about, please spend some time to educate yourself. The U.S. needs less government, not more.
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Re:Libertarians offer FREEDOM!!!Right on! Anyone who has done the slightest bit of research can see, the two party puppet system we call the democrats and republicans are selling us out to a UN led world government. Don't believe me, check out the agenda of the millenium summit - http://www.un.org/millennium/
If you want to walk around with a closed-source brain chip, paying taxes to a world government and living in a small apartment, because the land is too important to the environment and we are not allowed to own private property, then vote for the republi-rats.
If you want freedom and government out of your life. Harry Browne and the Libertarians are the only answer. Just check out the Libertarian platform found at http://www.harrybrowne.org -
The Quotable Harry Browne: on Abortion: "There is nothing in the Constitution authorizing the federal government to deal with abortion in any way. The federal government shouldn't subsidize it, encourage it discourage it, or prohibit it. And it shouldn't try to overrule whatever the people in any given state decide to do about it." "Government doesn't work. It doesn't protect adults on the streets. It doesn't protect children in the schools. Why should we think it's capable of protecting unborn children?" "Given the government's record with the War on Poverty and the War on Drugs, we can assume that a War on Abortion would lead within five years to men having abortions."
The Quotable Harry Browne on the War on Drugs: "There are no violent gangs fighting over aspirin territories. There are no violent gangs fighting over whisky territories or computer territories or anything else that's legal. There are only criminal gangs fighting over territories covering drugs, gambling, prostitution, and other victimless crimes. Making a non-violent activity a crime creates a black market, which attracts criminals and gangs, which turns what was once a relatively harmless activity affecting a small group of people into a widespread epidemic of drug use and gang warfare." "Before World War I, any child in America could walk into a drug store and buy heroin. It was sold as a pain-reliever and a sedative, in measured doses, just as Bayer sells aspirin today. The child didn't need a note from his parents or a doctor's prescription. And yet, despite this unrestricted availability of drugs, there was no drug problem in America. But when the government made drugs illegal, it created a black market -- providing enormous profits in return for running the risk of prosecution -- which led inevitably to the muggers, the pushers, the gangs, and the violence." "The Republicans & Democrats have put so many people in prison for victimless crimes that there's no room left for the violent criminals -- the murderers, the rapists, and the child molesters who are now going free because of plea bargains and early releases. Libertarians want to end the insane War on Drugs that has created a criminal black market in drugs, financed gang warfare, and brought violence and terror to our cities -- just as during the alcohol Prohibition of the 1920s. Libertarians want to empty the prisons of the pot smokers and other non-violent offenders, and keep the violent criminals off the streets -- restoring the peaceful America we had before the federal government became the nation's #1 "crime fighter" in the 1960s." "I have never met anyone who thinks we're winning the Insane War on Drugs. Nor have I met anyone who believes we will ever win it." "Many of the politicians who say that marijuana is a "gateway" drug (leading to cocaine and crack use) apparently smoked marijuana themselves when they were younger. By their logic, that makes them crack-heads and we should pay no attention to what they say." "When we turn to the government to stop someone from ruining his life with drugs, we convert a personal tragedy into a national disaster." Making Your Neighborhood and Your Children Safer by Ending Drug Prohibition America's crime rate has risen almost continually for the past 30 years. We are told that the rate of violent crime has dropped lately, but this is only in comparison to recent all-time highs. In truth, violent crime is still much worse now than it was before the War on Drugs began in the 1960s. There are more robberies, muggings, shootings, rapes, murders, and violence of every kind. And none of the politicians' grand schemes to reverse this trend -- whether mandatory sentences or more cops on the beat -- has restored the level of safety our country once enjoyed. Is the situation hopeless? No. The solution is as simple as removing the cause of the problem. The War on Drugs began in earnest in the 1960s, and so did the rise in violent crime. We have seen this before -- during alcohol Prohibition. But when alcohol Prohibition was repealed the crime wave of the 1920s subsided. We can expect the same thing to happen when drug prohibition is repealed. The reasons are many and compelling. If we repeal drug prohibition we can release from prison the marijuana smokers and other non-violent drug offenders who are now serving mandatory 15-year and 50-year sentences. Our overcrowded prisons will then have room for the murderers, rapists, and child molesters who are now being set free on early release and plea-bargains to terrorize your neighborhood. We can free up law-enforcement resources to fight violent crime, instead of chasing people who may harm themselves but are no threat to us. We can end gang warfare. The Drug War has produced a huge black market, providing untold riches for anyone who will flout the law. This money finances criminal gangs who would be powerless without drug money. Legal drug, tobacco, or alcohol companies don't conduct gang warfare and drive-by shootings, but criminals will do anything to secure a rich monopoly territory. We can reduce corruption. With so much black-market drug money, criminals easily gain immunity by making weak law-enforcement officers rich. We can make our schools safer. Brewers and distillers don't recruit children to hook other kids on liquor; nor do they give them guns to take to school. Neither would legal drug companies. When I grew up in Los Angeles before drug prohibition, the worst schools were safer than L.A.'s best schools are today. We can end muggings and burglaries by addicts. Illegal drugs that today sell for $100 might cost as little as $2 if we legalized them. Legal producers would have no need to circumvent the law and competition would drive drug prices down. That means addicts would no longer need to steal to support their habits. We can bring back respect for decent behavior. Because nothing can win the Drug War, it is constantly escalated -- destroying more of your liberties with asset forfeiture laws, drug testing, and invasions of your financial privacy. This has caused too many Americans to disrespect the law itself -- feeling that any kind of law breaking, victimless or violent, is justified. And we can make it possible for addicts to seek treatment from doctors without fear of criminal prosecution. Problems? We have much to gain, but what do we risk? Do we risk increased drug use? The available evidence suggests that the rate of drug abuse was much lower when drugs were legal than it is now. And America did not suddenly become a nation of alcoholics when alcohol prohibition was repealed. Quite the contrary -- alcohol use actually seems to have gone down. Are we afraid there will be ads for heroin on television? We shouldn't be. Why would any pharmaceutical company tarnish its reputation by running such ads, and why would any broadcast network offend its audience by accepting them? Are we afraid our children would have easier access to drugs? Well, how could they have more access than they do now? Drugs are being sold in our schools. And most street dealers are themselves teenagers. But all this would end if we repealed drug prohibition. So why do politicians fight so desperately to continue this insane War on Drugs? Could it be because the War allows them to continually expand their power over our property, our bank accounts, and our private lives? While Republican and Democratic candidates use the Drug War to outbid each other -- using our liberties as the stakes -- Libertarians identify the War on Drugs for what it is: an excuse to make big government bigger. Libertarians can see how much safer America would be without the nightmare of Prohibition -- just as the crime rate plummeted when alcohol prohibition ended. If you want your city, your country and your children to be safe, help me end the insane War on Drugs. Your vote for a Libertarian President will send a clear, unequivocal message that the Drug War is a failure and you want the government to quit invading your life on the spurious pretext of fighting drugs.
The Quotable Harry Browne on the Income Tax: "The federal government has destroyed American education, is in the process of decimating our health-care system, and has put millions of Americans into permanent welfare. Reducing the federal government to just its constitutional functions will not only allow us to repeal the income tax, it also will stop the systematic destruction of America." "It's easy to see how someone has been helped by money taken from someone else, especially when we can't see the people whose lives have been hurt by taking that money away. We can't see the family who now can't afford braces for their child's teeth, or who must move into a smaller home, or who can't afford a college education for their children, or the businessman who has been driven bankrupt by government regulations and taxes. As long as you ignore the people who have been hurt, any government program might seem worthy." "The income tax has destroyed the concept of financial privacy. It has demolished the idea that a man's home is his castle. It has provided unlimited funding for politicians to wreck lives and property. It has forced one-earner families to become two-earner households -- leading to decreased parental supervision of children; loss of family values; and increased crime, promiscuity and drug use. So long as the government has the power to invade our lives, rummage through our records, and take what it wants from our income, we will have only as much freedom and take-home pay as the politicians condescend to let us have." "We shouldn't be talking about what government should do or what we wish it could do. We should recognize what government can do. And the government has proven that it makes a mess of virtually everything it touches. So whatever it is we may want government to do, we have to look for better ways to achieve it." Free from the Income Tax The income tax is the biggest government intrusion into the lives of the American people. It forces every worker to be a bookkeeper, to open his records to the government, to explain his expenses, to fear conviction for a harmless accounting error. Compliance wastes time and money. The income tax creates an enormous drag on the U.S. economy. But in order to get rid of the income tax we must also get rid of hundreds of unconstitutional federal programs. However, history has proven that we can't remove them one at a time, because each program has beneficiaries and supporters who will fight for it -- while the average American is too busy paying his taxes and running his own life to lobby for the elimination of any government program. We can rally the American people to our cause only by combining all the spending cuts into a single package that includes the total repeal of the federal income tax. That way most people can see that they'll save far more in taxes than they lose in subsidies. By combining the reduction of government with the repeal of the income tax, every voter will know that the price for keeping today's federal programs is to continue paying the income tax. Every voter will know exactly how much he can gain by eliminating the complete package of unconstitutional programs. This is the basis of The Great Libertarian Offer: Would you give up your favorite federal programs if it meant you'd never have to pay income tax again? This is in marked contrast to what the leaders of the two old parties want. By promising you "tax cuts" without reducing the size of government, they are only rearranging the cost of big government. One way or another, you'll have to pay for it; the Russians certainly are not going to do it for us. In the same way, proposals for a flat tax or a sales tax are merely attempts to rearrange the tax burden. And because they don't reduce government itself or force the government to live by the Constitution, they leave the door wide open for government to continue growing and the tax burden to continue to worsen. I want to end the income tax and the IRS, and replace them with nothing. By reducing the federal government to its constitutional functions we can do away with all direct taxes -- and finance national defense and the federal judiciary with the level of tariffs and excise taxes already being collected. Are tariffs and excises good taxes? Of course not. The only good tax is a dead tax. But so long as we have a government, it will require taxes to pay for it. The question for now isn't what a perfect system would be, but what we can do to restore the American system of truly limited government, very low taxes, and maximum personal liberty. If yours is an average family, when the income and Social Security taxes are repealed, your take-home pay will increase by $10,000 or more a year. Think of the additional liberty this will provide -- the liberty to spend more time with your children and assure that they learn the values you cherish, the liberty to pursue your dreams unhindered by a government that prevents you from accumulating capital, the liberty to do good works with your own money. Republican and Democratic politicians believe that money belongs to them. Yes, they argue about tiny tax cuts and posture as your friends. But the burden of proof is always put on us to justify keeping some of the money we've earned. So long as we keep voting for Republicans and Democrats, they will continue to take almost half the national income and squander most of it on programs to please their political allies. Only when we have a Libertarian President will you have a real friend in Washington.The Quotable Harry Browne on Social Security: "Social Security is inherently unsound for the simple reason that it's a political program run by politicians for political purposes. It will never work and it will never be truly solvent. The only answer is to take it completely out of the hands of the politicians." "Social Security brings a new dimension to the field of annuities, insurance, and retirement. There are no long, complicated contracts. No actuarial tables to pore over. Instead, Social Security operates on a very simple principle: the politicians take your money from you and squander it." "Phasing out Social Security over many years won't work. The first time the stock market dives, the Democrats and the Republicans will use that as an excuse to take over your retirement once again." "You're told the government has to run your retirement for you because some people are too irresponsible to do so for themselves. But it's wrong to take responsibility for your retirement away from you simply because some other people are irresponsible." The Truth About Social Security I know a dandy way you can make a lot of money. Here's the idea: Offer a retirement plan that pays a pension more generous than people can get elsewhere. Every payday each customer will pay you a small portion of his paycheck -- say, 2%. You promise that when he reaches age 62 you'll send him a monthly check equal to what he was making when he retired. As the money comes in from your first customers, spend it and live a lush life. You really won't need to keep money in reserve for your customers' retirement. When the time comes to pay them, do it with money you receive from new, younger customers. So long as you keep attracting new customers to pay into the plan, you'll be okay. If you have trouble attracting enough new money to keep your promises, then just change the rules. Either raise the retirement age to 65 or lower the promised benefits. Or raise the amounts deducted from your customers' paychecks -- from 2% to 5% to 10% to 15%, however much you need. Of course, if you try this the government will shut you down, haul you into court, and send you off to prison. You'd be operating a Ponzi scheme -- named after Charles Ponzi, who set up a similar plan in Boston in 1920. He promised to pay investors 50% profit on their money in just 45 days. Gullible people poured money into his plan. But he couldn't possibly earn enough on the money to equal the rate of return he promised. So when someone wanted to withdraw his principal and interest, Ponzi simply paid him from money received from new investors. Eventually he couldn't meet the demands for repayment, and his scheme collapsed. He ended up in jail. But another such scheme was started in 1935, and this one is still going. It's called Social Security. It, too, is a Ponzi scheme. When Social Security was established in 1935, a trust fund was set up -- to keep the money collected in taxes, so it could be returned with interest to each taxpayer when he retired. But it took politicians only four years to change the rules. Politicians can't be expected to keep their hands off a large sum of money. So in 1939 they transformed Social Security into a "pay as you go" system -- one in which the amounts paid to beneficiaries come from taxes collected from other people the same year. The Social Security tax you pay isn't put aside as a nest egg for you. It is paid out to others older than you. The money your grandmother receives from Social Security comes from your paycheck. And if you receive anything from Social Security, even if you've been paying into it for 40 years, what you get will be taken from the paychecks of younger people. Social Security differs from a Ponzi scheme in only two ways: The politicians won't arrest themselves. The politicians can change the rules whenever necessary to keep the scheme going. And, in fact, the rules are changed almost yearly. The tax rate is increased about once every three years. The portion of your wages subject to Social Security tax has risen twenty times -- from an original maximum of $3,000 to the current $60,600. And the benefit schedules are changed frequently. Consequently, what was once a $60 annual tax is now as much as $9,271. But the game is getting tougher. As life expectancy rises, a larger and larger share of the population is retired. That means each person still working has to support more people who are collecting. This leads to a Social Security crisis every few years. It becomes apparent that current rates of taxation and benefits will lead to insolvency within a few years. To fix this, a bipartisan commission is appointed, taxes are raised, benefits are changed, and Social Security is pronounced completely safe and secure for another 50 years. But time seems to go by rather quickly in the political world. The 50 years seem to last only a few years -- until it becomes apparent that current rates of taxation and benefits will lead to insolvency within a few years. So another bipartisan commission is appointed, taxes are raised, benefits are changed, and Social Security is again pronounced completely sound and secure for another . . . Well, you get the point. The tax rate has risen sevenfold since Social Security's founding in 1935. Today your employer must deduct 7.65% from the first $60,600 of your income each year. In addition, he has to match that dollar for dollar. So roughly 15% of the first $60,600 of your employment earnings is lost to Social Security. Lower Benefits? Most people think Congress would never renege on its promises to Social Security recipients -- no matter how bad federal finances become. But when the only alternatives are to raise the Social Security tax rate to 35% or 40% -- or to cut off food stamps to the poor -- there may be no choice but to cut Social Security benefits. The politicians who once were so keen on sharing the wealth will now ask you to share the pain -- at a time in your life when you may not have the option to go back to work and make up the difference. Or Higher Taxes? Economists Joel Kotlikoff, Alan Auerbach, and Jagadeesh Gokhale project that rising costs for Social Security, Medicare, government pensions, and interest on the debt will require future generations to pay the government 71% of everything they earn during their lifetimes. The only alternative is for government to renege on many of the promises it has made. What kind of lives will our grandchildren have if they can keep only 29% of what they earn? It isn't just rhetoric when someone says we're passing the bills for government spending on to our children -- although we may think our children will pass the bills on to their children. Each generation may pass the debt on, but it can't pass on the interest. That has to be paid yearly -- and it keeps getting larger. Every generation already is suffering from the government spending of earlier generations, and the bills get larger and larger. Our parents paid around 35% of their income in taxes. Now the Census Bureau says 47% of the national income goes to federal, state, and local taxes. What will it be for the next generation? 55%? 60%? 71%? Ignoring the Problem The politicians refuse to acknowledge any of this -- and so nothing is done to stop the costs from mounting higher. Politicians still cite Social Security as a crowning achievement of the New Deal -- as proof that "government works." Both Democrats and Republicans use Social Security as a political football -- warning the elderly that their opponents will water down their Social Security or Medicare benefits, while denying any intent to do so themselves. And both are afraid the denials won't be believed. Public Skepticism The public knows better. Polls routinely show that about two thirds of the American people don't expect to receive a dime from Social Security. Even among people who are only 15 years from retirement, two out of five don't expect Social Security to survive until they start drawing their pensions. The public is right. Social Security is broken, and it soon will collapse. The Perfect System But until we know what Social Security should be, there's no basis for reform. If we were starting from scratch, what kind of system would we create? Obviously, it should be a fully funded system. The money you put in should be saved and invested on your behalf. And what you receive when you retire should be based on what you put in. With this system, your pension wouldn't rely on taking money from future generations. Actually, a fully funded system already exists. In fact, there are many of them. They are lifetime annuities offered by private insurance companies. You pay into the annuity over the years, the insurance company invests the money for you, and it pays you a lifetime pension when you retire. When you own an annuity, you have a firm contract with an insurance company. You know how much you have to pay every year -- and, unless you agree otherwise, the amount you pay never changes. You know how much you'll receive when you retire -- and, unless you agree otherwise, the amount you'll receive is guaranteed. This is the voluntary, contractual, non-political way of providing for "Social Security." When you have an annuity, you don't have to worry that Congress will change the rules. Many employers already provide pensions for their employees. If there were no Social Security system, competition for the best employees would inspire a great many more to do the same. What Should We Do? Private annuities work. They've existed for hundreds of years. Government doesn't work, although it has existed for thousands of years. Political Social Security is a fraud that can never be fixed. It is headed for bankruptcy. The only question is what to do about it. In looking for a solution, we must face up to one inescapable truth: Given the current tax rates and the promised benefits, there is no way everyone can get from Social Security what he's been told he will get. Most of the trillions of dollars paid into Social Security over the past 60 years have been spent. The money can't be retrieved. The promised benefits can be paid only if the Social Security tax is raised sharply. Or the tax can be kept where it is now, but only by reneging on the promised benefits. So we really have only two choices: Keep patching up Social Security, either by raising the Social Security tax until it reaches, say, 70% -- or by reducing benefits steadily until they're the equivalent of about $100 per month. Or . . . Act now to stop the problem from growing. Stop promising increased benefits, and get government out of Social Security entirely, so that no one will ever again be cheated by it. Social Security will always be a tool for politicians to one-up their opponents by promising bigger benefits now and leaving the necessary taxes for their successors to impose. So it will be a chronic problem until we get it out of the hands of the politicians. And the longer we wait to do this, the more painful it will be when we do. How to Save Your Retirement, Rather than Social Security Republican and Democratic politicians keep talking about "saving Social Security." But why should we want to save a bankrupt system that's a bad deal for everyone participating in it? What we really want is to free you from the 15% Social Security tax, while making sure that no one dependent on Social Security today loses what has been promised. Because expectations for receiving Social Security benefits are so low, we may be able to solve the problem at a relatively small cost -- if we get the government out now. Millions of people depend on Social Security today. They worked for decades. Their plans assumed that Social Security would provide some part of their retirement. I believe these people must receive what they were promised. But I don't trust the politicians to do it. Instead, the government should buy from a private insurance company an annuity for everyone who depends on Social Security. The annuities should provide lifetime incomes similar to what Social Security has promised. How much will this cost? A mountain of money. The exact size of the mountain is something only the government has the information to calculate. But, based on the amounts now being paid out each year, I estimate the cost to be roughly $5 trillion. This is, in effect, the accumulated deficit of 60 years of "pay as you go." Because there the government doesn't have enough money to cover all the liabilities, I believe annuities should be provided only for those who truly need them. This means some kind of simple, non-intrusive means test must be applied to each retiree. Those that don't rely on Social Security shouldn't aggravate the problem further. The maximum monthly Social Security benefit is $1,433; there are many retired people to whom that isn't a critical amount. People over the age of 50 who are nearing retirement and who have made plans based on receiving Social Security should also receive annuities. Those annuities would be smaller and wouldn't begin paying out until age 65. Of the current retirees and those over 50 who qualify for the annuities, I would hope that a great many would waive the right to an annuity and get along by other means -- although we can't count on that. In the next section I'll discuss a way to pay for the annuities without providing any additional burden on you and other taxpayers. And what about those under 50? To them we offer the greatest gift possible: You will never again have to pay the 15% Social Security tax. You will be able to fund a real retirement for yourself -- putting aside 5%, 10%, 15%, or whatever you want from your pay -- instead of paying 15% to Social Security. By starting before you pass 50, you can easily accumulate the necessary capital to provide a benefit at least as large as Social Security had promised. What Kind of America? We need to decide what kind of America we want. Do we want a country that sinks ever more deeply into debt -- in which generations fight with each other over a constantly shrinking pie? Or do we make the changes necessary now and get America back on track again -- so that people are no longer wards of the state? We can have a country in which our citizens are responsible, self-reliant, and self-respectful. With regard to Social Security, we have only two choices: Get Social Security completely out of the hands of the government -- and do it quickly. Give everyone a fresh start with a guarantee that from now on he'll get what he's promised. Leave it all in the politicians' hands -- and put up with periodic crises, higher and higher taxes, and more and more hostility between the generations. For me the choice is obvious. Your vote for a Libertarian President will be a statement that the Democrats' and Republicans' puny plans for Social Security aren't good enough. You want the freedom to plan a secure retirement for yourself.
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Definition of 'libertarian'
Libertarian.org is the best place to start for an introduction to libertarianism... which is not exactly the same thing as the 'technolibertarianism' the Ms. Borsook describes, as far as I can tell. Here is a a snippet from the opening page of libertarian.org:
WHAT IS LIBERTARIANISM?
Libertarians and their ideas are often misunderstood. Libertarian.Org is here to offer an overview of the libertarian philosophy and the libertarian movement. It is designed to be an introduction to the breadth and depth of libertarianism, for the long-time libertarian and the curious newcomer.
While libertarians are a diverse group of people with many philosophical starting points, they share a defining belief: that everyone should be free to do as they choose, so long as they don't infringe upon the equal freedom of others.
Human interaction should be peaceful, voluntary, and honest. It is never acceptable to use physical force to achieve your goals. The only time force is acceptable is when you are defending against force.
This might not seem very radical. After all, your parents probably taught you not to cheat, steal or pick fights -- in other words, not to use force against others. What sets libertarians apart is that they don't make any exceptions to this principle -- not even for governments.
In the libertarian view, governments should be held to the same standards of right and wrong as individuals. As a result, libertarians believe that governments should not interfere with the interactions and exchanges of peaceful people.
At this point, a few questions might come to mind. For example, why do libertarians believe so strongly in individual rights? What about other social values, such as equality and security? Or you may be wondering about the historical origins of the libertarian philosophy and movement -- where does libertarianism come from? Who are its leading thinkers? And how do libertarians apply their principles to contemporary public policy issues?
Libertarian.Org is here to help answer all those questions, so read on.
Some other good links:
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Re:Protest Arrests and my politcal $.02of Nader, you say:
More importantly, the guy is way ahead of all the other third party candidates, is on the ballot in 30 states already (including Montana
:-) Thank you Mr. Wachs and co.) with more to come, and he has eight percent popularity. If enough people vote for him, the Green Party (I was a staunch Democrat before I found the Greens) will become a "recognized" political party.
I find it hard to see Nader as "way ahead" when libertarian Harry Browne is on the ballot in all 50 states already. And while it's true that Browne trails Nader in the polls by a noticable margin, Nader is a celebrity, and Browne isn't. Would somelse running as the Green Party (?, ?, ?) candidate get as much attention? Maybe, but I would guess not. So although Browne will probably get less votes, the LP is certainly growing more steadily than the Green Party.
For those of you who aren't familiar with it, the Libertarian Party is the nation's third largest political party with more members than most of the other 3rd parties combined. You'll get a better idea by reading their site, but their core belief is that the federal government has overstepped its constitutional bounds and needs to be scaled back with a sledgehammer. They oppose the "War on Drugs," think the income tax should be abolished, and basically feel that the individual (and in some cases the state and local governments) should be responsible for most of what the federal government is trying to do (and in their opinion completely fumbling) for you.
Considering that both of these candidates have more down-to-earth time schedules than the two majors, and seem to be popular among the /. crowd, I think a pair of interviews would be a great idea. For example, I know what Browne thinks of Carnivore, but what about Nader? It'd be great if I could just ask him.
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3rd parties are always an option
If you don't like Bush or Gore, why not look into other possible candidates? That's the only way change will ever come about. Check out Harry Browne, the Libertarian candidate, at www.harrybrowne.org If everyone that thinks their vote doesn't matter, or refuses to vote for a 3rd party because it's a waste, would actually vote for that party, maybe something would get done in the country.
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There is one solution:Vote libertarian! As long as the Republocrats are in power, it'll just be a debate of what gets taxed more! My vote's for Harry Browne in November. www.harrybrowne.org
And for you fellow North Carolinians: Barbara Howe for governor! www.votehowe.org (Besides, you gotta love someone who uses a penguin as her mascot.
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Re:I especially liked...You know, in the past, I used to have problems like this. I mean this year I'm presented with a group of candidates in the two major parties, none of whom I could possibly vote for. I mean, the two major parties offer a choice of Al "V-Chip" Gore and his wife Tipper "PMRC" Gore (not to mention that her comments on Dungeons and Dragons, well, I guess I just did
;-) Then there is John "CDA2" McCain or George "Bob Jones University" Bush.Yes, they seem a lovely pack of jackals and demagogues. Lot's of people are voting for one or the other. In fact, my sister was trying to convince me to become a Republican just the other day <Shudder> "Come on, George W. Bush needs your vote," she said to me, seriously!! <Shudder>. Bleah! And I thought I was convincing her to vote Libertarian... -_-
But there is a solution, and it doesn't involve sitting home on election day! That solution is Harry Browne, Libertarian, a man who is looking out for everyone's rights.
Remember, voting for a candidate who doesn't win may be depressing, but helping to elect a loser is far, far worse!
Vote Browne and send a message to the establishment!
(Incidentally, I've read articles in Forbes magazine that seemed OK, but not only is he out of the race, he was courting the Christian Coalition vote when he was in the race... I think that means, ultimately, filters and censorship under his administration, too.)
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If you're looking for straight answers to the kinds of questions that you listed, check out Harry Browne's site, and the Libertanian Party site. Whether or not you agree with his/their views, you won't be treated like a fool; you'll get straight answers. Hopefully you'll like the answers and be persuaded to vote Libertarian, but if not, you can at least make an informed decision.