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Library Filtering Update
Following the Internet filter vote in our hometown this week, Jamie McCarthy stopped by the geek compound to rap with us for a bit, and so we recorded a special update to this week's show and have posted it at TheSync.
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listening to this before you posted it.
At least now we know they hate the color schemes as much as we do. :)
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I've already e-mailed Jamie to hear what he has to say, but FYI, the AFA has landed in Birmingham, MI , my hometown. Apparently a man was spotted by library officials downloading pornography and escorted from the building, and the AFA is using it as a pretense to fight for censorship here. It's an extremely wealthy, Republican, conservative area, so I expect another difficult struggle. I'll try to keep you all updated.
Also, apparently a bill for library filtering has passed the MI state senate, which may very well nullify Jamie's gains if it is not stopped soon. All slashdotters in MI, write Engler and your local Reps.
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Voting for "NOT BUSH". I think that's a good vote. :)
Dunno, it just struck me funny.
Though there are other kinds of bushes I'd vote for ;-)
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I'm all against the current breed of internet filters. But (open mindedly speaking), imagine that we come across a product (such as Deep Thought?) that could in fact filter 99.9999% perfectly and give a good browsing experince to little kids and innocent adults. Then what?
:)
If I was a kid, and I was showing off the internet to my mom, and if somehow I got stuck in a porn site with windows poppping up as fast as I could close, I too would be embrassed... I too would loath the computer and at the end be driven to push the turn off button.
But say for example the second greatest computer in the entire universe and other diamensions exist.. say that deep thought was invented, it did filtering based on images, sound and did it a sane way (did you see how altavista/images get filter on the amount of skin shown?) wouldnt you want that to be run on your child's computer? Or your work box.. or anything..
Keep your minds open
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My mistake.
I'd be really suspicious if they had blocked my site which details the lawsuit.
Fight Spammers!
hah.
And you're one of the reasons I am an agnostic.
If you're sort of behind on the issue your talking about, here are Jamie's earlier stories:
Victory in Holland
Lightning Crashes, An Old Freedom Dies
Censorware and Memetic Warfare
Filtering Internet in Public Libraries
View from the Censorware Trenches
Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".
Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".
"My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure."
How true that statement is. A seemingly helpless tiny minority of honest people has fought against an entire nation of atheists, pagans, homosexuals, and God knows what, and like the Israelites of old we have suffered many a small setback, but victory is inevitable. We lost a small skirmish in Holland, MI, but remember this:
We love our children more than you hate them.
You secular humanists love nothing, you care for nothing. You are soulless automatons, motivated only by a dry insectile lust for power and a robotic desire to destroy the lives of the fully human, God-empowered lucky few among you who have been saved from the damnation that you know you will never evade.
We want our children to live more than you want them to die.
You have no families, no closeness in your lives. You have left the human race voluntarily, trading true human contact in the arms of God for the cheap momentary thrills of anonymous sex and addictive narcotics. You seek to force these vices on us and on our children by means of your propaganda. This we will not permit.
We want our nation to prosper more than you want to destroy it.
Your tactics are cheap, flimsy, and transparent. Your weapons are your weakness and your criminality, your pornography and your drugs. You will not destroy this nation. You will only destroy yourselves.
You will not win. You will never win.
In fact, you have already lost.
Thanks Cowboy Neal for finally posting about a Geeks in Space update (even though it was a "point release" :)
Hopefully now you can ALWAYS post about Geeks in Space updates, so I don't need to squint at that little box on the side.....
Stopped by to rap for abit? Gee, and here I was thinking Rob was gonna bust a tune out on us and go the way of RMS. Man, and *I* disappointed... :)
My name is Amadou. You have probably heard my story by now. I was shot to death by N.Y. police officers for fitting the 'description' of a rapist. That is to say I was a person with dark skin. I was shot because my skin color mistakenly identified me as someone who might possess a gun and attempt to shoot police officers. I had no gun. I had no gun and now I am dead because I was unfortunate enough to have dark skin color matching that of a rapist. The New York police officers believed I would shoot them because of my skin color. The belief of danger means the four police officers were legally entitled to shoot me 41 times. I am dead. I had no gun. I was not a rapist. The police officers who shot me are found NOT GUILTY of any of the charges brought against them arising out of my murder. I was unfortunate enough to have dark skin and to find myself in front of a firing squad of white police officers who mistook me for a rapist with a gun about to shoot them. I still have dark skin but now I am dead. The officers walk free. They can shoot you next. They need only believe you to be a threat. I hope that you do not have dark skin. Mistakes are made. People are killed. In New York shots are fired first, questions are asked later. (-1, Offtopic)
The sad thing is, even here on /. a few people will actually appreciate the fact that a black guy was shot. Stephen Lawrence all over again... except worse. Mong.
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Guess you dont know much about Chem
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moderate this up as either insightful (this is EXACTLY how some people think) or funny (as a kind of parody)
either way, this deserves to be seen
Dammit, we need more funny stuff like this! It's the best way to fight these obsessive-religious nuts.
I'm not flaming the calm, rational religious people, so chill.
A t t e n t i o n m o d e r a t o r s. T h i s i s a r a n s o m n o t e. P l e a s e m o d e r a t e m e d o w n a s a t r o l l o r e l s e I w i l l p o u r h o t g r i t s d o w n m y p a n t s. T h a n k y o u.
This is completely offtopic, but, you know what? I actually cried when I heard the news. 41 times. An unarmed black man was shot fourty-one times. I feel sick to the stomach when I think of the fact that the police can basically unload their weapons on an unarmed man and be found innocent.
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
Casey
--GnrcMan--
I consider this on-topic since this story is about censorship and stuff... anyways, I didn't realize this until I heard it mentioned recently on the radio... John McCain is the guy who authored the CDA!
;)
I think that's enough to say about that, and in case someone forgot (like I had) I thought I'd do a little public service reminding everyone.
Esperandi
And McCain recently advertised on a porn site too, quite odd combo. Too bad Slashdot thought the story sucked. At least they declined it instead of rejecting it (anyone else notice that change?
After doing a few searches, it turns out McCain also sponsored a required key escrow bill... why aren;t we hearing about any of this anywhere, at least to prove that his legislative passing powers aren't that hot.
Esperandi
Oh, and go search for anything about McCain on AltaVista and it will think you misspelled it... they think you were probably looking for cocaine.
Jennie McCarthy is on the show? great going guys! I'd like to slashdot her...
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I'm as pissed off as you are, but it's worth noting that four of the jurists were black (FWIW -- mainly that it seems unlikely that they were motivated by racism), they were there, they heard the evidence, and you and I werent't there and didn't hear the evidence. This doesn't mean that I think the killing was justified, but it does mean that I've got a particle of doubt in my mind: This was not the Rodney King jury. It's possible that the jury had good reasons. I cannot for the life of me imagine what those reasons may have been, but I'm a bit leery of second-guessing people who have more information that I do.
Also, forty-one shots were fired but only nineteen actually hit Mr. Diallo -- and incidentally, just for the record, the autopsy showed that most of the bullets that hit struck him as he was falling or after he was lying on the floor. Something was very, very wrong there (two of the officers fired sixteen shots each, which means they took time to reload in the midst of their alleged panic), though I can't see how it matters whether you're dead from one wound or nineteen: You're just as dead either way. Also the cops claimed to have spoken to Mr. Diallo before shooting him, but bystanders within earshot didn't hear any of that. A freak of acoustics, faulty recollections? Perjury? We can't know that.
On the plus side of the ledger, the policeman who sodomized Abner Louima with a broomhandle is going to be behind bars for a long time, with convicts who know who he is and what he did. Brrrrr . . . ! I wouldn't want to be him.
Yep, good old NYC. Gotta love a city where 'gun control' means the police can shoot an innocent man 41 times with no fear of reprisal. I tell you this though. Those police would think twice about trying the same stunt where I live and _everybody_ carries a gun.
That's a good one. I love the "ransom note" thing. Mixing a little farmsex into your grits is cool, too.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law." --
And even if you did heroically demonstrate your quick draw and gun down four cops while they were shooting you in the back, you'd still have to get away from all the other cops. You're living in a dreamworld.
Anyway, you should be happy: Diallo was black. "Where you live" the cops and the (white) citizens are on the same page with that sort of thing, right?
Have you even attempted to put yourselves in the shoes of the officers or have you just been suckered by the tripe the news media throws at you? I feel horribly about what happened to Diallo and it was a terrible tragedy. Those officers were bad cops, not necessarily bad people. They thought he was reaching for a gun, one of the cops fell causing the others to think he had been shot. It's perfectly understandable if you put your life in danger every day, and generally want to help people, that you get a little wired on adrenaline and when you see someone reaching behind himself (which you should NEVER do in a tense situation in front of a cop) when you're chasing after another criminal. The self-righteous attitude has got to be dropped by the people so easily condemning the officers when they have no clue what it's like in their shoes!
Zed's dead baby. Zed's dead.
The unprincipled will always have the advantage over the principled. If you really believe the unreligious are evil, you'd best prepare your "soul" for "heaven".
When did right-wing Republications take over the word "family"? Every bloody wacko anti-free-speech organizations out there has "family" in their name.
I think that they want us to figure that, heck, they're pro-family. And who could be *anti* family? Therefore, opposing them means that you're...what...pro-orphan?
Bah. If pro-family means pro-censorware, chalk me up in the Norwegan bachelor male category.
Loves the comment about the "Idle Rich" but one question? Don't the people hosting the show fit that catagory? After all you can't even tell us why Slashdot died the other night.
It sucks that people shoot people. It sucks
that some people act in such a way that other
people feel compelled to shoot them. It sucks
that people shoot people for no reason at all, or
for a stupid reason like the color of the target's
skin. People suck, and should be shot.
What the heck is "Britishing" anyway (about Everquest and CmdrTaco's MissTaco character)
MCCARTHY HEARINGS CONTINUE IN HOLLAND
"We Will Root Out Right-Wing Zealotry," Vows Community Leader
HOLLAND, MI (UPI) - Community leader Jamie McCarthy continued his set of hearings to uncover and uproot a clandestine right-wing conspiracy to outlaw "objectionable" books, movies, and Internet material. "We are pleased with the progress that we've made so far," explained McCarthy, "and we know that given enough time, we'll chase these loonies back down to Bumpkin, Arkansas, where they belong." McCarthy's Holland Un-Internetarian Activities Committee has already exposed several right-wing individuals and organizations and has forced them to flee in shame.
On the stand today was former presidential contender Gary Bauer, a social conservative who dropped out of the race following the New Hampshire Republican primary. McCarthy's line of questioning, as usual, was direct and to the point: "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Family Research Council?" asked McCarthy. Bauer, after consulting with his attorney, took a sip of water and hoarsely whispered "Yes, I am."
"Are you a part of the self-righteous group of people that believes it has the right to impose its narrow-minded view of morality on all children and parents?" thundered McCarthy from the front of the room. "Yes, I am," admitted Bauer, to a raucous audience reaction and a flurry of popping flashbulbs that could only be silenced by the steady beat of the chairman's gavel. Bauer later left the hearings, never to be seen in Holland again.
Such has been the pattern established by McCarthy's committee over the past couple of weeks. Right-wingers, bravely turned in by community leaders and readers of the Slashdot Web site, are quickly processed by the committee and banished forever from decent society. "We are proud of the work we are doing," beamed McCarthy. "Each night when I go to bed, I do it knowing that I've accomplished something worthwhile. Ensuring that our children can grow up at a safe distance from the clutches of the religious fundamentalists and ultra-right-wing zealots is definitely worthwhile."
Scheduled to appear before the committee next week are Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell, political strategist Ralph Reed, NRA president Charlton Heston, former United States president George Bush, and former Hollywood actor Ronald Reagan.
Richard Gephardt contributed to this story.
We're going down, in a spiral to the ground
*enraged* Give me back my troll!!!
</MEL GIBSON VOICE>
The joke, of course, is the fact that our little McCarthy here is fighting against people with massive political power (the CDA was passed, okay?), people who own the three candidates who are most likely to be our next president. And the people of Holland, MI rejected the censorship measure by 55% to 45% -- hardly the overwhelming mass hysteria you're describing. Furthermore, Senator McCarthy was acting to stifle freedom of speech and conscience, while our McCarthy on Slashdot is doing quite the opposite: He's fighting to preserve freedom of speech and conscience. Thugs came in from out of town to ruin his local public library. He was part of the grassroots movement that fought them off. Good for him: That's what America is all about.
No, my guess is that you're a garden-variety right-wing christian, one of these people who thinks he's being "oppressed" if we refuse to take orders from him. Either that our you're a surrealist with a good imagination, and I've been trolled
What the fuck kind of crap is this? I think we need a (-1: Christian) moderation to deal with this sort of shit. Now hear me out. I'm not an anti-religious person at all, but I think that a post like this falls into one of two categories. 1) the person is trolling as a Christian and is trying to be annoying or 2) the person really is a Christian and is therefore genuinely annoying. For the first case, you would moderate it down as a Troll. For the second case, it would either be Flamebait or Offtopic. But what if you moderated it down as a Troll and it really wasn't one? That would be a shame. We need a (-1: Christian) moderation category that would work for all posts like this. That way we could just let the moderation system do its job and not worry about mis-classifying posts.
Anyway, to the author of the above post, if you're not a troll, you need serious help buddy.
Anyway, I'm sure you've figured out by now that people like to call themselves "pro-"something -- just look at the abortion debate. If all the pro-lifers did was refer to the other side as "anti-life" and vice versa, the debate wouldn't go anywhere. (Not that that is going anywhere; it's one of those issues with a slippery middle ground.)
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The shareholder is always right.
hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!
THAT's why he doesn't like McCain! Keeps reminding him of things he'd rather not discuss.
-- Sen. McCain
Heh.
Sad thing is, I think he's still our best bet. Gore's been creeping me out, and Bradley . . . I dunno. I'm not sure he can win, though he's the only one that doesn't scare me at all.
Again.
"For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea." Habakkuk 2:14
Listen, it's not cool with me to assign "-1" to an expression of somebody's religion, however moronic it may be (and believe me, when I wrote that troll I made it as moronic as I was able). What we need is +1: Troll, +1: Flooding (for the copy'n'paste shitheads, who are not trolls), +1: Religious Fanatic (why leave the moslems out?), +1 Insightful, yadda yadda you name it. Bear with me!
Then we allow the user to set thresholds for each category, and make the thresholds switchable between minimum or maximum: I could decide to ignore everything by default, and display only posts with at least one point of Troll, Funny, or Christian. I could also allow everything by default, while filtering out the Trolls etc. Or I could filter out everything but posts with at least two points of Insightful, Redundant, or Stentorian. This would make everybody happy. Each one of us would get exactly the Slashdot s/he deserves!
The best way to do this would be to let us enter filter expressions in SQL in an edit box in the user preferences thing. Hey, why not? Have fields in the db for each mod category and let us filter by 'em as we please. This would be the most flexible and powerful way, and also the least work for Rob with the UI
masterful troll,
You are soulless automatons, motivated only by a dry insectile lust for power and a robotic desire to destroy the lives of the fully human,
priceless.
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Fight Spammers!
Keyes: I think this is another case where politicians try to jump on the bandwagon of something that is going on in the economy, so everybody is going to think that they actually had something to do with the result, when they don't.
There is no need for this. We are already seeing out there proposals for the distribution of free PC's, not based on some politician making a judgment and spending taxpayer money, but based on the self-interest of those who are involved in a new world, a new world in which participation is the key to profit, and in which there is actually a strong incentive among those who participate in the private sector to give access to individuals, so that they can improve their opportunities for profit, for information sharing.
That is what has already been going on. It will continue. There is no need for the government to pretend that it needs to take leadership here. I think that is just political posturing.
Since this seems to be the main annoyance with porn sites you didn't intend to visit, take a minute to vote for mozilla bug 29346, a request that mozilla do something about the problem. Or better yet, comment on it (preferably on bugzilla instead of slashdot) in a constructive way, such as suggesting a better solution than the one I proposed.
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The shareholder is always right.
"I see dead people's posts!"
Somebody please mark all this crap as "Offtopic". If I wanted to read sensationalist media, I'd turn on MSNBC and sign up for AOL. Not on Slashdot, please!
Keyes: I don't think it's a free speech issue in this case. It's an issue of public decency. And any place we let our children into ought to be subject to standards of public decency that make it clear that they are not going to be polluted with garbage. Don't use the First Amendment. That's some excuse to destroy our children's lives and souls. It doesn't have to be because obviously you set up a straw map, it would be easy as pie, wouldn't it, to put a few computers off in a room you don't let children in and let adults have access to them. You can solve the problems if you want to. The libraries right now are egregiously ignoring their responsibility to our kids trying to claim free speech rights. I've got to tell you something. My kids don't have the right to free speech, and they don't need to have it until they grow old. But, I'd also like to address quickly this tax question.
Listen now, this is a phony issue. You stand here listening to these folks being the gatekeepers of your money, telling how much they're going to let you keep and you don't feel humiliated. And you ought to. The problem is not the tax rate, and it's not funny. We have given away control of our money. We have sacrificed one of the key elements of our liberty, and it will stay sacrificed as long as we have any form of income tax at the federal level. It should be abolished.
*rant* Hello? I replied to the first post with a joke based on the same play on words! I was oh-so-hoping for a "funny" tag. *rant*
Yeah, I know this is petty, and worse, ridiculous. We all know moderation is crap.
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
You know, if the two sides were Pro-Death and Pro-Opression instead of Pro-Choice and Pro-Life, that wouldn't work either. I am wondering how long the word "censorship" will take to accumulate enough flak to have negative connotations in the ears of the general public. It certainly makes me shudder.
...sorry
Normally I'd have an entertaining Doublas Adams quote here, but I misplaced my copy of the Ultimate Guide.
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
It's probably unwise to advertise DXM in a forum like this without some disclaimer about the dangers of DXM. It's quite likely some uninformed person will take way too much DXM or take it with a MAOI or SSRI and cause themselves serious harm.
I support educating people about how to use drugs responsibly, but its foolish to publicize a non-harmless drug without also cautioning people who don't know any better.
Also, lots of teenagers read slashdot. Do you really want to publicize DXM to the group of people most likely to give it bad publicity when they act all robo-ish around their parents?
He has no place in our Republican Party, the alternate name of which is GOP. The 'G' stands for "Grand", and that moniker is not well-served by allowing people like Keyes to scamper around the party as if they owned it.
Have you ever heard of "seperation of church and state?" If not, you're not alone. I support *Not Bush* in part because his dumb ass supportes prayer in school. Fundamentalism has no place in society. How will you explain this kind of theological argument to an atheist like me? And no, you can't convince an atheist that there is a God. Too many philosophers smarter than you have tried and failed.
Could I have a flame tag, please? It occurs to me that I might not have expressed my hatred for fundamentalism offensively enough.
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
McCain did CDA2, not CDA1. CDA1 was a combination of Pressler and Exon.
"If one is really a superior person, the fact is likely to leak out without too much assistance" -- John Andrew Holmes
That guy was you?! Arrggh . . . right between the eyes . . .
--80md
How about justa "fundamentalist" tag to put on posts that use theistic arguments? Then they could be scaled up or down based on the level of relative dumbassary and trolling involved
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
I actually cried when I heard the news. 41 times.
You cried 41 times? Jesus Christ, your tear ducts must be clogged up by now!
Ok... here are the events, in no real order 'cause none is known.
* He pulls his wallet (pulls a dark object)
* A cop yells "Gun" (this is a standard warning - it means one of the cops was declaring danger - according to at least one withness this happened BEFORE a shot was fired)
* A cop went down. It turns out he slipped - but to the other officers it looke din the confusion that he had been shot.
* more than 40 shots were fired, 19 bullets hit.
Some items of note:
* If you are shooting at someone who you think is shooting back - YOU KEEP SHOOTING till you are SURE he is down. You don't stop shooting to worry about how many shots the others are firing.
* They were shooting 9mm. If you look at the FBI gunfight stats you will see that it often takes 5 - 10 shots to disable an attacker. Not HITS - shots. Generally, it takes 3-4 HITS to down an assailant in a gunfight with a 9mm.
* He didn't fall right away.
* The law says if the cops BELIEVED they were in mortal danger, deadly force is allowed.
Please do not take DMX if you are on an anti-depressant. My Serzone would cause severe liver damage if it interacted with what you just advertised. Please include a link to the DMX FAQ, or provide a disclaimer at least when advertising drugs. It might save lives.
Ha ha.
I feel slightly bad for making light of all this (I'm sympathetic with Diallo, obviously, but also not entirely unsympathetic w/ the NYPD, where my uncle spent 20 years of his life for no known reason. He's a nice guy, though I do know he shot at least one unarmed "suspect" over the years; I remember him needing a new "throwaway").
'nuff said
.. try www.godhatesfags.com or something like that i dunno where all the christians hang out
please don't post this scripture shit here, post it where it is relevant
IMHO a far more solid effort than the above.
--80md
Yep, I caught it .. but since I sort based on score, it was actually above this one. Classic stuff. :)
--70%
Don't give me that crap.
The cops were firing glocks at the bad guy.
1) glocks don't have proper safetys
2) glocks have very sensitive triggers
3) cops firing glocks tend to fire more rounds per shooting incident than they used to when they had revolvers
4) The company that makes glocks gave the cops a sweet deal by allowing the to trade in their old guns to buy new glocks at a discount
5) Those old police guns were then turned around and resold to the public
6) and the cops thought that the poor black man on the street might have had one of their old guns in his hand and
7) let the poor fucker have it.
So don't give me any of that shit. The cops are hardly innocent in this matter.
fucking halfwit
That strikes me as a significant issue, one which I hope the jury spent a lot of time contemplating.
Jesus didn't help you spell that one right, eh? No, he fucking well didn't. Jesus can't spell for shit. That's because Jesus is a fucking idiot. Fuck you, fuck Jesus, fuck idiots, fuck spelling, fuck automata, and fuck the fucking horse you rode the fuck in on, fuckhead.
Children's Internet Protection Act (S.97) - sponsored by McCain
I/O Error G-17: Aborting Installation
I got a Phone call the other day from Pat Robertson and he wanted to Know if I knew where my soul would spend eternity. Pat Robertson Told me that if I voted for John mccain that it would not be clear where my soul would spend eternity. But then Pat Robertson said that if I voted for George W. bush that I would be Assured a spot in Hevvin with the Eternal Father. I must pass this on, if you don't want to go to hell, you better vote for Gorge W. Bush. Pat Robertson Says that if you vote for McCain you will be buchered!!!
I laughed, I cried ! Great.
You should know better. The term "Pro-life" has no other purpose than to prevent rational discussion of the issue, just like "pro-family" (or the the name of the "Defense of the Family Act", which had the sole purpose of outlawing many families and discouraging the formation of others). The nuttier sort of religious people spend their entire lives demonizing everybody in sight. Once they've muddied the waters enough, the sensible people are stuck trying to explain things and clear up the confusion, while the Christians are free to hop up and down shrieking slogans and waving bibles. The slogans cut through the murk, while the sensible explanations don't. Drowing public debate in high drama and Manichean arglebargle always serves the most evil elements in society; see Hitler, Stalin, etc. ad nauseam.
These people don't give a damn about reality or about "solving issues"; they want power, period.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law." --
it started out okay, but when I tried to reach out and fill in the gaps, there just weren't any berries on the bush.
Responsible trolling is harder work than most people realize. I'm no stranger to the gentle art myself, as it happens. Pleased to make yer acquaintance.
I referred to . . . Reagan as a "former Hollywood actor"
I missed that somehow. Duhh! Note, however, that I did suggest the possibility that I had been trolled! Which is to say, I was trolled, but not one hundred percent trolled, just maybe, um . . . 99?
--80md
Absolutely not 1 thing you said supported your argument! You simply re-posted in a cruder fashion what the prior poster stated with some unrelated information regarding the firearms used! Just because they had a certain type of gun doesn't defeat the prior statement.
I act like all of these guys in the forums and I get moderated down to like -0xBFE666 by tight-ass moderators. What gives?
............ no.
just wondering...
So historicly, the State of Michigan has been the GOP's Backyard.
.... Just to answer a question.
*Carlos: Exit Stage Right*
"Geeks, Where would you be without them?"
*Carlos: Exit Stage Right*
"Geeks, Where would you be without them?"
"Got Linux?"
'Nuff said.
Doesn't Windows Crash whenever you think of port?
Fight Spammers!
he seems to have it all figured out.
Forbes is a silly man unworthy of the presidency.
I would say the same for Bush.
Truthfully though, I say screw all of them. None of them Get's It. They are all sell outs, McCain included (although from my research, to a lesser degree than the rest).
I'm gonna waste my vote on R.U. Sirius
http://www.the-revolution.org
I doubt it, the cops seem to suck everywhere.
Why only -1? How about -666? :)
Get a clue, man, those cops are there risking their lives as part of their jobs. There are situations where they must choose between being quick or dead. Better being wrong and alive than wrong and dead.
Now this so-called "victim" here should be nominated for the Darwin award, he was SO stupid. If you are surrounded by people pointing guns at you, the last thing you should do is reach for your pocket, no matter what's inside that pocket.
Not me, I'm white.
And there's only One Book we need. I support closing public libraries, they have nothing that can't be found in the Holy Bible. If each person has a Holy Bible, there is no need for libraries.
and legislate that all pr0n be put there. If you don't want to see it, you won't be bothered with it,unless you log onto I3. Then, the debate would be something like...should public libraries allow ACCESS to I3? Makes things a little clearer I think. But, as with many other issues concerning the internet, its globality(is that a word?) creates the problem once again of how would you force other countries/govt's to keep their own pr0n sites off of I1 and I2. Oh well, just a thought.
One of us has tried gonzo.com while looking for muppet stuff and found porn.
One of us has searched for pet supplies and gotten a completely misleading porn site with the pop-up windows of doom.
One of us was searching for political info and found that a certain gay rights term had been added to the search strings of a bunch of porn sites. ("a bunch of" meaning that the search was completely useless because of the porn 'noise' and a more indirect search had to be used to get the desired info.)
The existance of 'stealth porn' is not (IMHO) a reason to use ineffective filtering software that blocks useful sites. But it is a problem that concerns some people. Neither pretending it doesn't exist, nor insulting those who are concerned are viable solutions. Helping create a non-censoring technological solution is, and will take the wind out of the AFA's sails while you're at it.
-Kahuna Burger
...will work for Chick tracts...
If I believe someone is shooting at me, should I do a careful analysis, ask for a third opinion, request a written report and think matters through before I shoot back?
Nobody said anything about writing reports. I asked if the belief had to be well-founded. In other words, would a reasonable person, under those circumstances, knowing what the cop knew, have cause to believe he was in danger?
Obviously, that is exactly the standard the law uses: It was a rhetorical question. I mistakenly assumed that my post would be read only by people bright enough to grasp what I was saying.
this so-called "victim" here
The cops and their attorneys have all said that he was an innocent man, wrongly shot. They say that the cops' mistake was a reasonable one in the circumstances, and I happen to agree, but they (unlike you) are capable of grasping the fact that he should not have been fucking shot. This encourages me enormously: The average NYPD officer, unlike the average SlashBot moron, has at least a primitive grasp of right and wrong and is aware that morality is a complex thing: The fact that the cops fucked up doesn't necessarily make them criminals, and the fact that they may not be criminals doesn't necessarily mean that Diallo was a criminal. If cops are allowed to make a bad decision under pressure, why not Diallo? Why do they get more slack than he does? Well, I have a pretty good idea what's going on in your head on the subject, but that's irrelevant. The important this is that everybody who matters here (the cops and the jury) understands the fact that Diallo and the cops both fucked up, but Diallo's dead and they're not, and while no crime was committed, it's still a fucking rotten situation. Those cops feel remorse, and they feel it because they are considerably smarter than you are.
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If however you can come up with a group of people who believe both that abortion is wrong and should be outlawed, yet would have one themselves, well.......
Look at McCain's responses to what he would want to do if his teenaged daughter was pregnant (due to sexual assualt?) he first said that in the end the decision would lie with her, then backpedaled to say it would be a family decision. In other words, constitutional amendment for you personal choice for me.
It actually isn't unusual. In (I think) the first Bush race, Dan Quayle was asked a similar question and wishywashed on it. Then his wife came to the podium and showed us what real no-holds-barred pro life is all about, saying that their daughter would carry the baby to term, etc. The strong reaction got more notice than the wishy-washy one, showing that most American's expect "pro-life" leaders to be hypocrits when it comes to their own choices.
-Kahuna Burger
...will work for Chick tracts...
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The following quote is from the url: http://www.eff.org/pub/Censorship/Internet_censors hip_bills/1998_bills/HTML/19980721_eff_s tatement.html
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION REACTS TO SENATE PASSAGE OF TWO INTERNET CENSORSHIP BILLS
Statement of Barry Steinhardt President of the Electronic Frontier Foundation
This afternoon the Senate passed two draconian bills that would ultimately prevent access to a wide array of content on the Internet. The two bills were passed as amendments to an appropriations bill for the Commerce, Justice and State Department. They were brought up without any notice to those members of the Senate who opposed them and without any opportunity for meaningful debate. In effect, free speech on the Internet was the victim of an ambush.
The initial amendment offered by Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Patty Murray (D-WA) would require schools and libraries that receive federal funds for Internet connections to install filtering software to block "inappropriate" material. The second, "the CDA II" bill sponsored by Senator Dan Coats (R-IN) would enact a wide ranging ban on Web posting of material deemed "harmful to minors."
The two bills represent a real and present danger to free speech on the Internet. The McCain/Murray amendment will force libraries and schools to use all-too-frequently crude and overbroad filters that block out a wide array of non-"harmful" speech -- everything from the Quaker home page to the American Association of University Women has been blocked by these programs.
Indeed, you can no more create a computer program to block out one community's view of "indecency" or "obscenity" than you can devise a filtering program to block out misguided proposals by members of Congress. Both may be desirable, but neither are possible.
At first glance, the Coats' CDA II bill appears to be a relatively benign provision that purportedly applies only to commercial pornographers who market to minors. But it is a Trojan horse. Beneath the veneer, it covers any Web site that has a commercial component and which has material that some community will consider "harmful to minors", even if that is not the material for sale. This ranges from the electronic bookseller Amazon.com to EFF's site, which sells books and T-Shirts.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation is one of the leading civil liberties organizations devoted to ensuring that the Internet remains the world's first truly global vehicle for free speech, and that the privacy and security of all on-line communication is preserved. Founded in 1990 as a nonprofit, public interest organization, EFF is based in San Francisco, California. EFF maintains an extensive archive of information on encryption policy, privacy, and free speech at http://www.eff.org.
--- If you don't want to know the answer, don't ask the question.
hey i say that it this dumb thing ever happens we all ban together and tell them that if there goinig to filter the content from the net then everything must be filterd inclueing all the books. i mean its not like theres anything remotely like sex in any of the umm...books! This is just anther example of teaching our kids to let others decide on what is content and not. in the "infoage" (gota use a buzz word) the most important thing is for us to learn howto filter stuff for our selfs!
I didn't check this story out but "Britishing" probably refers to killing a famous netizen's character in a multiplayer universe. After some guy who assassinated Lord British (the leader of Brittania) in Ultima Online. I'm too lazy to recall the name of the guy who plays Lord British, but he is the main developer of Ultima and was supposed to be invulnerable.
Freedom: "I won't!"
Police rarely discharge their weapons.
This being known, you must remember that serious caution must be used when using lethal force on a suspect.
No attempt was made to indentify the man actually had a weapon. That is the problem, they just unloaded on the guy because "someone fell."
Did they hear a shot? Did they see the flash of the gun? Did they see anything even remotly suggesting that this man may be armed, besides the fact that he was black? No. He didnt even -fake- having a gun.. He was probably reaching for Identification when the cops just unloaded on the guy.
Shooting an unarmed man 41 times is not a job hazard, it is murder.
These people should be sent to prison where they would be assraped every day by the same big black men they unjustly imprisoned in the past.
The justice system isnt just.. at all.
Having studied the justice system for a good amount of time, I am greatful for being wealthy and white. It sickening how racist the system really is.
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No problem
Seriously, people make demands all the time. If Rob were to implement this (though I don't see it happening), he'd go just as far as he thought proper. Then he'd sit back and watch it in action for a while, and tweak as needed. So what if people complain? They complain anyway. If he hadn't learned to blow it off, he'd have gotten a real job a long time ago
Wonderful that people in Holland Michigan came to their senses. I would hope that this shows how ludicrous censorship really is.
Romanes eunt domus? People called Romanes, they go the 'ouse? It says Romans go home. No it doesn't. What's Latin fo
Such a process is really irrelevant. It's less trouble to just drink the damn cough syrup straight. Besides, DXM is fairly unrestricted. It's pretty easy to find a chemical supply company that doesn't really keep track of who buys what. Most of em will even sell you gelcaps to put the powder in so you don't ever have to taste the hastiness that is dextromethorphan.
But then again, why DXM? It's novelty wears off quickly. There's so many other more interesting drugs out there, like acid, x, and pot. Or if you're too much of a wuss to buy the illegal ones, pick up a jar of ground nutmeg. Eat 1g per 10lbs of body weight (150lb=15g). It tastes nasty as all hell, and it takes fucking forever to kick in, but 8 hours after you choke that shit down, man it's cool.
How about the Libertarian candidate, or Nader?
-- Ender, Duke_of_URL
I hear he paid himself $100,000 a year out of campaign finance funds when running for senator.
-- Ender, Duke_of_URL
I agree. Somewhat along the same vein is the fact that you usually only find pr0n if you look for it. Most kids don't know it exists, so they can't search for it. Even if they do get one of the seemingly random links to the stuff, there's always the warning pages and credit card verification before you get any of the real stuff. So what's the use of filters? To make the parents (who, by now, must be absolutly sure the Internet is full of stalkers and pr0n) feel safer.
My point is: If you don't want it, then just don't look for it.
I figure that the only way we're going to get that message to concerned parents everywhere is to either send out a massive snail-mail spam, or try to get someone on the news to talk about it.
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Star Trek vs Star Wars. Take a look. You may like it.
if you had bothered to read, you would see that they did not settle, but they took a judgment. It's not because they wanted to, it's that they did not want to risk a jury ruling on this!
How do you get "6 year old case?" The case was filed in 1998, Mattel paid in 1999. Is this the new math?
If you really bothered to read, Mattel is suing me for libel. They are trying to shut me up, though you would love that. They will lose! I don't have any Laura Croft pictures. I would borrow yours, but they probably are too sticky.
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