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How is capitalism forced upon the citizens? There are many communes all over the world, even in the US, that people are allowed to freely join and practice whatever they want.

Examples include ecovillages, cohousing, communes, student co-ops, spiritual communities, and more.

The US has and has had many communes. The exist and you are free to join. Whenever you try something similar (allowing groups or regions private ownership) under communism, the capitalism takes over, therefore force is necessary to keep it extinguished.

And there are communes in the US too that you are free to join.

http://www.ic.org/the-fellowsh...

I think this article will hopeful tell you why Communism won't work. Simply put a structure will raise in any group of humans working together. Hopeful, this structure will put good leaders at it's top but human history doesn't make it look promising. Also, there is no need to believe that workers will go away soon or ever. The rich will simply be able to afford more custom things and personal service if they fail to take advantage the economy will weaken since they won't be able to sell enough to other rich people to stay wealthy. Am also not saying that free food won't be available in ever city in the world just that it won't be some sort of true communist leaderless system that will do it. Ether that or a new dark ages will come about the will wipe away the knowledge that created this problem in the first place.

Sounds like some kind of cult.

Yep. In fact many modern intentional communities work this way. It can work because you aren't going to screw your neighbors when you live, work and sleep all within a few blocks. Many of these communities are also run by consensus instead of having a hierarchy or authority figure. The problems you see with "communism" at the state level don't emerge until you have a community large enough so that there are "strangers". People will willingly screw a stranger. I've heard that this starts to happen when you get 150 people in the community. In other words, communism doesn't scale.

If only they worked. Kibbutz is failing in Israel as more and more people move away from them. However spreading throughout the world are Intentional Communities and Communitarianism. I wonder how long these will last though.

If only they worked. Kibbutz is failing in Israel as more and more people move away from them. However spreading throughout the world are Intentional Communities and Communitarianism. I wonder how long these will last though.

All I am saying is that there can be a socialistic system (i.e. a system that cares about the society, not a system that is a dictatorship) without beaurocracy.

Can you tell me where I might find one? The closest I know that comes to this ldeal, and it is an ideal, are kibbutzim and other intentional communities . However these are neither government owned nor run. I won't say all but many of them are made up of people with a shared interest who join together to buy and own their own land and careful about they allow to join. It takes a lot of hard work for them to work.

Actually according to his FAQ page it isn't a cult, but interesting that you have to tell people you aren't up front.

9. Myth: Community members all think alike.

Fact: Because communities are by definition organized around a common vision or purpose, their members tend to hold a lot of values and beliefs in common--many more than shared among a typical group of neighbors. Still, disagreements are a common occurrence in most communities, just as in the wider society. The object of community is not so much to eliminate conflict as to learn to work with it constructively.

10. Myth: Most communities are "cults."

Fact: Many sociologists and psychologists know that the popular image of "cults" and "mind control" is distorted. Both the American Psychological Association and the Society for the Scientific Study of Religion have done research that refutes the idea that religious or other groups are systematically brainwashing their members or interfering with their ability to think critically.

I think people are confused about greed and money. People often misquote the biblical "money is the root of all evil". The full quote is "the love of money is the root of all evil".

So, wanting to get wealthy is not wrong. Wanting to get wealthy to the exclusion of all else, placing the desire for wealth at the center of your life, screwing people over just to make a buck. That's what's wrong.

Morality is in the attitude, not the bank account. After all, if there were no money, we would be reduced to using an inefficient barter economy, or breaking society down into little self-sustaining collectives that would never be able to unite and produce the way the free market does.

Plainly, money is a good thing. Here's a challenge to all those who say money is evil: take a vow of poverty. Find a monestary or some similar sort of collective society that will allow you to live without money. You might have luck with this at Intentional Communities. What? No takers? I didn't think so.