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Explain to me how you think the last bug (AUTH_SYS) should work. It is open source, so anyone can fix it.

Well, the last thing I'd do is utterly ignore the situation and silently truncate the list to the random first 16 gids. It's hard to have a lower standard than that, as it's the worst "solution" possible. Ignoring a problem doesn't make go away. From a reliability perspective, the intermittent failures such code creates are a nightmare.

So if that's your attempt to defend the Linux implementation, it's really lame. How would you explain the problem to a user who complains, "Why can't I open these files today?!?! I could yesterday!"

The easiest solution is the most RELIABLE one: Do like Solaris does and fail the request. That way the system administrators are forced to actually do their damn jobs.

If it's too hard for you to figure out how to configure your systems so users in more than 16 groups can access files via NFS, you're incompetent and unqualified.

Fixing that bug isn't the problem, it's the low standard that bug represents that's the problem.

> Only two months ago I had an aged Dell RAID array let me down. I have no idea what actually happened, but it appears some error crept in one of the drives and it got faithfully spread across the array and there was just no recovering it. If I didn't have good backups that would have been about 12 years of the company's IP up in smoke. I just thought I'd share.

It may have been the RAID write hole ?

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Can the codebase be recovered?

Doesn't need to be. Illumos is the open fork of (not so) OpenSolaris.

Would this mean that illumos us now the de-facto standard Solaris distribution? https://wiki.illumos.org/displ... It appears that they have quite a few of the old Solaris team members. https://wiki.illumos.org/displ...

Would this mean that illumos us now the de-facto standard Solaris distribution? https://wiki.illumos.org/displ... It appears that they have quite a few of the old Solaris team members. https://wiki.illumos.org/displ...

> ZFS, in short is a bullet-proof file system, if setup correctly. ... Because underneath ZFS is essentially a very smart software RAID 6 and journaling system.

Well, considering hardware RAID has a silent corruption bug, I'd say it more then "essentially" :-) Especially with Raid-Z2 and Raid-Z3.

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ZFS The Last Word in FileSystems

Measurements at CERN
* Wrote a simple application to write/verify 1GB file
* Write 1MB, sleep 1 second, etc. until 1GB has been written
* Read 1MB, verify, sleep 1 second, etc.
* Ran on 3000 rack servers with HW RAID card
* After 3 weeks, found 152 instances of silent data corruption
* Previously thought âoeeverything was fineâ
* HW RAID only detected âoenoisyâ data errors

Whoops, that first link should be:

* ZFS: The Last Word In File Systems

Actually, the illumos codebase, on which OpenIndiana is based, is far, far from dead.

But the frontpage of the OpenIndiana site has had a fork stuck in it for two years. There is some activity in the wiki, but if you only looked at the front page all you would see would be a time machine talking about "the latest" 2013 release, and a download link to same. There is no excuse for this. You could get the front page updated at the cost of buying a high school kid a couple of pizzas.

The frontpage of the IllumOS site just redirects you to a wiki which claims it has been "last updated" in 2013, though there is clear 2015 content. The blog link takes you to, again, 2013. This isn't quite as egregious, given that IllumOS, as far as I can figure out, isn't really a distro at all. It is a codebase feeding a number of distros.

I won't lower myself to the "Netcraft confirms" quote, but all this doesn't look healthy or encouraging at all.

It's about Illumos now. Solaris is stagnant. From what I gather, most of the developers moved from Solaris over to Illumos a while back and have been rather active since.

The illumos project provides the basis for a Solaris-like operating system. Many distributions of illumos are now available, just like Linux. I think OmniOS and SmartOS are particularly worthy of your consideration, and ready for enterprise-scale production use, big data, DevOps, and all the other buzzwords.

That's sort of my point. Getting rid of Linux would leave only Solaris as a place for all of us Linux admins to go. Sure there is AIX but we all know IBM is a fickle mistress. Hell, I didn't even bring up IBM which is the other major DB vendor out there. And they've invested a huge amount in Linux on their systems. My real point is that Oracle is in one of the few positions to go after Linux in the enterprise space. And their tact could well be weakening Linux by weakening RedHat.

(my emphasis) Interesting... probably true, but I think they listen to their users. Remember a decade ago when IBM pulled AIX in favor of Linux and the greybeards in the field complained... and AIX returned, and has stayed. And your point is well received... Oracle weakens everything they touch. Oracle... makes people sad. So I shouldn't have implied the current Oracle "Solaris" was superior or even equal, not after Oracle has offended so many important contributors. I should have bumped illumos and it's brethren such as my fav flav, OpenIndiana. Dump Oracle for PostgreSQL and one of these is the way to a happy backend with DBA's and sysadmins living in harmony. ;-)

https://www.illumos.org/ http://openindiana.org/ http://smartos.org/ http://www.nexenta.org/

Again, not true. You cannot 'just use the xen 4.1 hypervisor'. You seem to be completely ignorant of how much work there is in adding dom0 support in a kernel which is fortunate for you only. And the last opensolaris in august 2010 did not have dom0 and nor does openindiana. [1][2][3]

[1] https://www.illumos.org/boards/1/topics/561
[2] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/7.+Virtualization
[3] http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=134657

• NFS/CIFS lock manager
• Full kcf module/daemon (crypto framework)
• Trusted Extensions (labeld)
• Many more drivers

That's plenty of work but there are people willing and able to get it done and they have a bootable system to evolve. The real question is when someone will kick off a full distro around it (since Illumos is purely a kernel).

Yes, it is legal. Goto http://www.illumos.org/.

http://www.illumos.org/ seems to be the closest thing to a community still left for the future of OpenSolaris.

There are some excellent technologies in OpenSolaris, and it appears The Illumos Project is going to be the place to find them.

I'm not sure this is a bad thing. Oracle's played its hand, and as opposed to Sun's years of "oh, gosh, we don't know if we want to be open or not - how about almost-open?" Oracle said, "screw you guys, we're going to make money off this thing." I frankly don't care about them not releasing an OpenSolaris binary build - Linus doesn't post binary builds - but keeping the source changes secret until after the commercial release just doesn't deal with the realities of Internet Time.

But, because of Oracle's decisiveness, the ON stack, the libc, etc. are all being done right now. I've tried once or twice to contribute to Nexenta and got stuck in the complexity of rebuilding a kernel, despite having done so in linux forever (to be fair the Nexenta guys were awesomely responsive so I didn't really have to do the build myself). This should be fixed.

It might give the OpenSolaris^W Illumos community a chance to succeed, being actually open.