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Solid
There should really be a universally interoperational social networking platform standard that isn't controlled by any single corporation or country.
Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee OM KBE FRS FREng FRSA FBCS just launched such a platform standard:
- https://www.inrupt.com/blog/one-small-step-for-the-web
- https://solid.inrupt.com/
- https://github.com/solid/userguide
- https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/09/30/1122238/tim-berners-lee-announces-solid-an-open-source-project-which-would-aim-to-decentralize-the-webCaptcha: unionize
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Solid
There should really be a universally interoperational social networking platform standard that isn't controlled by any single corporation or country.
Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee OM KBE FRS FREng FRSA FBCS just launched such a platform standard:
- https://www.inrupt.com/blog/one-small-step-for-the-web
- https://solid.inrupt.com/
- https://github.com/solid/userguide
- https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/09/30/1122238/tim-berners-lee-announces-solid-an-open-source-project-which-would-aim-to-decentralize-the-webCaptcha: unionize
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Re:ID
The summary probably wasn't written with a technical audience in mind, and it leaves much to be desired.
The main contribution here is the concept of linked data: that the relationship between media objects should be exposed through a standards-based interface. This is an old idea, but it is seldom practiced. Linked data is a natural extension of Sir Berners-Lee's original hypertext protocol, which provided for hyperlinking between documents.
The linked data protocol encourages the development of distributed applications. For example, one can host a photo on one server, but comments about that photo could be distributed among many others. Linked data is used to describe what refers to what. In this model, contributors are expected to retain more control over their contributions. This will likely scale OK for small groups... but if you attract hundreds of comments, you might be in trouble.
Is this useful? Maybe. It appears to fill much the same space as existing "social networking" websites, which provide both identity and methods for "limited sharing." It does not appear to address the needs of
- Very personal data like healthcare information, which must be stored only in highly secure, trusted environments; OR
- Very public data, which one might wish to store immutably, indefinitely, and have it be highly discoverable
Worse, where are we going to put these "Solid PODS?" On our home PCs? Most homes are not blessed with high uplink speeds, 99.9%+ SLAs, uninterruptible power, or redundant data centers. The answer for most people is likely going to be "in the cloud." Economies of scale dictate that low-cost cloud computing resources will be concentrated into the hands of relatively few organizations with both the capital and the experience to provide them.
All will be well and good until the cloud service providers realize that they can simply peer into these PODS and extract all the data that they ever wanted.
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
MrKaos noted:
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
Someone who has points please mod parent +1 Informative.
Yes, people could easily find these documents for themselves - but most of us are lazy, easily distracted, and focused on other things. Providing these links is a useful public service.
Thank you, MrKaos
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
MrKaos noted:
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
Someone who has points please mod parent +1 Informative.
Yes, people could easily find these documents for themselves - but most of us are lazy, easily distracted, and focused on other things. Providing these links is a useful public service.
Thank you, MrKaos
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
MrKaos noted:
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
Someone who has points please mod parent +1 Informative.
Yes, people could easily find these documents for themselves - but most of us are lazy, easily distracted, and focused on other things. Providing these links is a useful public service.
Thank you, MrKaos
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
MrKaos noted:
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
Someone who has points please mod parent +1 Informative.
Yes, people could easily find these documents for themselves - but most of us are lazy, easily distracted, and focused on other things. Providing these links is a useful public service.
Thank you, MrKaos
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
MrKaos noted:
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
Someone who has points please mod parent +1 Informative.
Yes, people could easily find these documents for themselves - but most of us are lazy, easily distracted, and focused on other things. Providing these links is a useful public service.
Thank you, MrKaos
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Tim, this isn't going to work.
Your company presents a load of business case talk on the homepage. You're seeking the attention of the wrong people for this to succeed. But wait, there's a "how it works" page, too, so maybe there's hope? Nope, just another "big picture" explanation of a concept. But hey, nerds like a puzzle and you do show the technical stuff after all: How to run a Solid server and an intro to the Solid spec. Those tell us that a Pod is hosted by a Node.js server, and the specification is based on WebID, web access control lists and "discovery": "Discovery is the final piece, and allows the ability to tie all of these things together, and enables both humans and machines to participate in a rich ecosystem, leading to emergent and self organizing growth." I feel like I should yell "Bingo!" or barf. Rich ecosystem, leading to emergent and self organizing growth. Come on. No sane person who is capable of running a Node.js server that isn't going to get hacked on day 1 will touch that with a ten foot pole.
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Tim, this isn't going to work.
Your company presents a load of business case talk on the homepage. You're seeking the attention of the wrong people for this to succeed. But wait, there's a "how it works" page, too, so maybe there's hope? Nope, just another "big picture" explanation of a concept. But hey, nerds like a puzzle and you do show the technical stuff after all: How to run a Solid server and an intro to the Solid spec. Those tell us that a Pod is hosted by a Node.js server, and the specification is based on WebID, web access control lists and "discovery": "Discovery is the final piece, and allows the ability to tie all of these things together, and enables both humans and machines to participate in a rich ecosystem, leading to emergent and self organizing growth." I feel like I should yell "Bingo!" or barf. Rich ecosystem, leading to emergent and self organizing growth. Come on. No sane person who is capable of running a Node.js server that isn't going to get hacked on day 1 will touch that with a ten foot pole.
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
These are very nice puff pieces claiming a lot of good intentions, but how does it work?
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
It looks interesting enough to check out when I'm not so tired.
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
These are very nice puff pieces claiming a lot of good intentions, but how does it work?
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
It looks interesting enough to check out when I'm not so tired.
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
These are very nice puff pieces claiming a lot of good intentions, but how does it work?
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
It looks interesting enough to check out when I'm not so tired.
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
These are very nice puff pieces claiming a lot of good intentions, but how does it work?
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
It looks interesting enough to check out when I'm not so tired.
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Re:Show, don't tell. Less hype, more details.
These are very nice puff pieces claiming a lot of good intentions, but how does it work?
I found some some documentation: The getting started, Introduction to the specification.
There are some other things that look interesting Introduction to Linked Data, Expressing ID and, Manipulating linked data.
It looks interesting enough to check out when I'm not so tired.
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