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Kluge rhymes with huge; kludge rhymes with sludge
Or, as some people spell the word, a kludge.
Also known as literate people.
So, some random site decided to grab the URL of "oxford dictionaries", I assume to mislead people into thinking that this is the Oxford English Dictionary
Don't slashdotters know about the Jargon File anymore? (here or here or here.) It's sad how classic hacker history is so quickly forgotten.
http://www.catb.org/jargon/htm... : kludge
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/kluhj/ n. Incorrect (though regrettably common) spelling of kluge (US). These two words have been confused in American usage since the early 1960s, and widely confounded in Great Britain since the end of World War II.In English, the soft "g" is pronounced as if it has a "d" in front of it. Kluge rhymes with huge. Kludge, on the other hand, would rhyme with sludge or judge.
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Re:hacking
I've heard of people hacking into a computer system or a network, but not the kernel. I guess malware can hack into the kernel in order to take over the computer system. I learned something new.
. . . Have you never read the JARGON file?
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Re:Why is it taking so long?Sorry to question your fact, but chrome was added to the hacker dictionary by ESR, and he's not necessarily the best authority for hacker slang.
Here's an archived history of the Jargon file, you'll note that there's no mention of chrome in the pre-ESR versions.
It may well be that chrome is not just an ESR-ism, but you'll have to find better evidence than that.
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Re:Road Signs?
Compose/minus/L or compose/L/minus for X.
AltGr+3 (right alt or control-alt) using this keyboard driver on Windows (NT 4.0, 2000, XP, 2003, or Vista, x86/AMD64/IA64)
Option+3 on Mac on NeXT
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Re:Wouldn't this technically be a cracker?
The 2003 version of the jargon file still has the malicious definition in it, though it is marked as deprecated:
[hacker] 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence password hacker
Compare to (jargon file v1.05):
3. A malicious or inquisitive meddler who tries to discover information by poking around. Hence "keyword hacker", "network hacker".
I'm sure your reasons for disliking him are legion. But in the context of this discussion, his change to the file is minor at best, and prefers a different word for the malicious meaning for reasons which, if one reads the revision history and notes surrounding the change, make sense. -
Re:Wouldn't this technically be a cracker?
The 2003 version of the jargon file still has the malicious definition in it, though it is marked as deprecated:
[hacker] 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence password hacker
Compare to (jargon file v1.05):
3. A malicious or inquisitive meddler who tries to discover information by poking around. Hence "keyword hacker", "network hacker".
I'm sure your reasons for disliking him are legion. But in the context of this discussion, his change to the file is minor at best, and prefers a different word for the malicious meaning for reasons which, if one reads the revision history and notes surrounding the change, make sense. -
Re:Wouldn't this technically be a cracker?
You may want to look up the posted definition of cracker, by the by. It's not just copyright protection. It's computer security in general.
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Re:Wouldn't this technically be a cracker?
Not to sound like I know what I'm talking about, but your objection sounds political and personal rather than technical. In fact the sense was there, but the word "Cracker" was, according to the jargon file at least, coined well before ESR took over. Is the claim that he is lying, or simply that who-cares-it's-ESR?
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Re:Ok, but...Can someone tell me where the pi key on the keyboard is, so I can type in pi/2 radians? Option+P
Oh, you're using Windows, not MacOS, BeOs, or OPENSTEP?
McKeyboard or AfterStep, AltGR+P
Unicode Extended (either) AltGR+H
(No, Excel doesn't recognize it. But hey, it's easy to become able to type it.) -
Re:Ok, but...Can someone tell me where the pi key on the keyboard is, so I can type in pi/2 radians? Option+P
Oh, you're using Windows, not MacOS, BeOs, or OPENSTEP?
McKeyboard or AfterStep, AltGR+P
Unicode Extended (either) AltGR+H
(No, Excel doesn't recognize it. But hey, it's easy to become able to type it.)