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They're just upset that there are better alternatives out there for free or, if something is missing, a company can add it to the open source solution without having to wait for some commercial company to get around to adding it.

I personally wouldn't use N-Brain and it's not because of an open source alternative, I simply don't like the look of their site. That is honestly enough to put me off the software completely.

I still buy updates to JCreator ( http://www.jcreator.com/ ) as it is a very good Java IDE. I use Eclipse too but mainly for EJB stuff and JCreator for plain old Java. JCreator is fast and bug free. Sometimes it just makes life easier to open it up rather than wait for Eclipse to fart about trying to load all the plugins.

Eclipse is slow with an un-intuitive interface (JCreator is much better http://www.jcreator.com/), haven't use the other 2. I have never seen any open source software that's better than a commercial competitor, nor any that has a feature that commercial software don't have and it's good. I would switch to open source on any 1 of those conditions.

You know, Eclipse isn't the only Java IDE. I myself prefer JCreator whenever I need to write something in Java. Yeah it doesn't have auto debugging, but I like handling that myself.

The very first experiance everyone has with code here is simple text-editor/command line, coding, compliling, and running. After about a week-ish of writing simple "hello world" programs, they are introducted to a relatively bare bones compilor JCreator (basically it has syntax highlighting, auto-indentation, and project building, but you still have to compile the code and wade through the error results yourself.)

After students passed that semester of basic coding, the next semester introduced IDE's with more features, like eclipse, which does fix simple errors for you and basically make the coding go faster so the students get a more general view on whatever is being taught.

It seemed to me this philosophy worked the best, when students were just learning, they had to figure out what was wrong and catch it on their own, but as they got more proficient, they were given tools that did the basic stuff for them.

Java there are. JEdit, JCreator, Eclipse. JCreator is my favourite (of the three I mentioned), it does have a "pro" version that offers automatic syntax completion and what-not. JEdit is the most stuited for beginner programmers because its a fancy text editor, not a gigantic automatic-everything IDE like Visual Studio or JBuilder.

"For example, do you know about FAR - one of the best file managers in the world?"

Total Commander is better.

"Or how about RAR?"

7-Zip is better.

"And certainly you haven't heard about the superb mailer "The Bat!""

Other poster pointed out that it isn't Russian.

"Besides, lots of software is written in Russia: Microsoft Flight Simulator"

X-Plane is better.

"IDEA (the best Java IDE)"

JCreator is better.

Those Russians might have the most powerful mafia and some really hot chicks, but their programmers are obviously ass.

So why C# instead Java? Well if you're not concerned with being locked into a single platform (which has the lions share of the market locked up) you get all of the advantages of Java with quite a few extras thrown in.

Lion's share of what market? Last time I checked, most people were using neither .Net nor Java on their web/application servers, its more likely to be PHP or Perl. Tell me again why I should base my choice of platform on what other people are using.

Applications which look like Native Win32 apps. Sorry, Java looks like ass.

Java's awt toolkit uses NATIVE components for rendering. Java's swing toolkit is 100% skinable so if it looks like shit, talk to the developer of the app.

Applications that just seem faster. Sorry, Java just makes my new box feel like an 8088.

So I guess you don't bother with device drivers either. All that hardware abstraction just makes apps "feel" slower. Jitted Java is no slower than C++ if it is written properly.

A great set of development tools and a huge body of excellent documentation.

Isn't it crazy how there are no sources of information on Java. I guess C# has it all over Java on this one. I guess the FREE development environments like, eclipse or netbeans or jcreator or Sun ONE Studio just don't provide anything useful to a developer, except may a choice in their ide. You can always buy a Java IDE from Borland or Oracle, or a thousand other companies.

The ability to pre-compile applications, negating speed disadvantages of the JIT compiler.

gcj

Like I said, .Net is Java with the added drawback of locking you into a single platform.

Now, I just use JCreator. It doesn't include a lot of the things that NetBeans does (like GUI-creation tools), but it is fast (BIGGEST reason I use it), has syntax highlighting (which is why I switched from Programmers' Editor), allows you to add new syntax, can run ant from F7/button, etc... The author also seems very receptive to emails.

Let's put it this way, I actually registered it.

On Unix, I usually use pico or vi, but I have heard really good things about KDevelop.

Malachi

If you want a lightweight IDE, look at JCreator. There is a free version here!

We are working on tools that the historic visual developers will find very attractive. They will be all written in Java.

I love Java on a fast machine, but most of the time I'm using a Pentium 2 with a 233MHz processor. I can't run jEdit, JBuilder or NetBeans on here because they're too damn slow!

They should write it in C/C++. Most Java applications that I've used run just fine on this "bitty box", but IDEs and text-editors slow to a crawl.

I guess what _I_ really need is JCreator to be ported to GNU/Linux.

JCreator is small, fast and has all I want in an IDE. It is written in C++ and behaves very much like VisualStudio, which is great if you're a windows programmer. Personally, I run dual boot CRUX 1.0/WinXP and if I'm gonna write a good amount of Java code, I choose XP and JCreator, because JCreator feels so much faster than any Java-written IDE/Editor. JCreator is freeware (there is a Pro version for as little as US$35) and I'd love to see a Linux version - I have emailed them about it and it's not gonna happen anytime soon. Damn.

But anyway, there is a big difference between JCreator and Java editors for Linux. I'd like to see a JCreator-like project at SourceForge or something, because I'd definitely use it. (I'm not gonna contribute myself - I'm already working 60+ hrs a week). Does anyone else feel the same way?

Personaly I have used a few (Visual Cafe, JBuilder, J++, plus an array of text editors) I have found that the best one that I've tried is JCreator Pro from It has a really nice GUI that sort of remindes me of VC++, it integrates with any version of JDK and provides help straight out of that documentation. The debugger isnt the best, it is just jdb in a section of the JCreator window. It has realy good auto compleetand overall it is a great tool.
I'm waiting to see what this eclipse project is like, I would really like to add features in to most IDE so an open source plugable one sounds good especially since it can be used for more than just java. alphaWorks has released a c/c++ plugin for it.
If you are after a really good text editor though you should go no further than TextPad it is the best text editor I've ever used. Good syntax highlighting with hundreds of extra syntax definitions avaliable from their web site. You can also compile and run java from within text pad. Before I found JCreator this is the only thing I'd use. I prefered Text pad over Visual cafe and the other IDEs ive used. What ever IDE you deside on I'd sugest you get JCreator anyway.

If you are on Windows, you should try JCreator. I like it better than every other (graphical) Java IDE that I've tried. It isn't open source, but it is reasonably priced at only $30 or $40. (Note that there is a free version, but it lacks some of the most useful features like code completion and a bean wizard that fills in the setters and getters for you)

Try JCreator. They have one free version and one professional version.

Its has a simple interface. Does syntax highlighting,projects,etc. check it out. The only downer is it only for Windows. :(

www.jcreator.com