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Re:ahem.... are you sure?
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My T42p went back to them lots++ of times over the three years I had it. Eventually they gave me a refund.
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I've Got All The Rejected Ones!
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I've Got All The Rejected Ones!
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BBC Micro Online Again After 15 years
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What about in the UK?A coupla questions:
- Can I get my hands on one in the UK? I just took a look and you have to subscribe to their ISP thingy to get one, and that's only in the US. I was about to buy one to play with when I saw that they won't ship out of the US.
- At $99, it's worth it just for the LCD screen to attach up to rackmount machines. Anyone managed to rip the head off one of these things yet?
- And a thought: these things would make excellent cheap EPOS machines by the look of it. And certainly a lot cheaper than NCR's offerings.
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The Viewdata communityHere in the UK I used to fondly use Viewdata bulletin boards such as Cyclone, The Cellar, CCl4, Optix, Chipboard and the suchlike. Based upon the Teletext character set (think Prestel) and populated for the most part by BBC Micro users, the community was great and to a certain extent was killed off when ANSI boards came round. Indeed, the infamous Steve Gold/Robert Schifreen "Prince Phillip" hack was carried out on a Viewdata system in 1984 - as detailed in Hugo Cornwall's Hackers Handbook (now out of print) and Approaching Zero: Data Crime And The Computer Underworld (still in print, published by Faber&Faber).
Now, as James Lawson puts it on the CCl4 web site, the ANSI board is all but dead. Most boards have been surpassed by the Internet and indeed FTP sites and websites as you rightly state; Fido feeds have been surpassed by Usenet; message areas by maillists. It's back to information provision and suchlike.
There has been, for some years now, a Viewdata Revival going on, which puts forward many of the arguments. Unfortunately the website is a bit stale but it does give you a sort-of hail back to the days of CARBBS, XFS+ and EBBS board hosts running on 32k BBC Micros with (if you were lucky) 20Mb Winchester hard disks - none of this 24Gb filespace and 18 CDs online rubbish.
There are several Viewdata bulletin boards now online on the Internet, run from Acorn Archimedes machines using Gareth Babb's excellent VHost software. Mine is called Haven and you can get to it without even a Viewdata emulator, by using the online Java-based client. Alternatively there are bits of software you can use to access them.
Of course, there are still ANSI boards available via telnet - the UserFriendly one immediately springs to mind. But you still won't get back the sort of thing which you had with Viewdata.
Hope this enlightens at least some
;)Joel.