Domain: junkfaxes.org
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Re:Here are some good places to start...
I prefer junkfaxes.org (note the plural).
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Google?
The first result was junkfaxes.org. Another site is starting a class action lawsuit againt fax.com, one of the most previlant junk faxers. Fax.com also happens to be the scumbags faxing my line at least once a day, even when I shut off the fax machine.
The bottom line is you can't do it alone. The only way to get any results is to join a class action suit, or get the FCC involved. They will either fabricate evidence to stall and/or increase you legal expenses, or if you do win, they will just refuse to pay. I have no time right now to bother with this crap, so I just save all the faxes and hope I'll get a few bucks when the class action suit goes through. -
Re:500$ per email?!
Fax.com is a nasty outfit. Read this dossier on them. Also read this story and this FCC report and this lawsuit by the California Attorney General's office which detail the kind of sleazy behavior fax.com and its constituents engage in.
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Re:Does National Do-Not-Call List cover FAXes?
Laws don't help with fax.com. They wardial to find fax numbers. Ever since I hooked up a fax machine to my land line (about a year ago), I have gotten faxes. Their opt out numbers only verify that a person is there. They create false data to show that you asked for their business. They called me up at 3 in the morning repeatedly with their faxes which significantly impared my ability to work the next morning. Junkfaxes.org has lots of information on them.
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Telephone Consumer Protection Act
Code of Federal Regulations, Title 47, Volume 3, Parts 40 to 69
Sec. 64.1200 Delivery restrictions.
(a) No person may:
(1) Initiate any telephone call (other than a call made for emergency purposes or made with the prior express consent of the called party) using an automatic telephone dialing system or an artificial or prerecorded voice,
(iii) To any telephone number assigned to a paging service, cellular telephone service, specialized mobile radio service, or other radio common carrier service, or any service for which the called party is charged for the call
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But do the laws work?
I recieve about 2 junk faxes every single day, ON MY CELLPHONE from which I have never sent a fax. Why? Because Fax.com found it by wardialing me. The junk fax laws haven't stopped people from sending junk faxes.
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Re:Do what I do...
As learned in the AOL CD story a few days ago (so don't blame me if it's inaccurate,
/me points at everyone else), anything that comes bulk mail doesn't have any return to sender fees associated with it, so the post office throws it out if you send it return to sender. Meaning that all you do then is increase the load on the postal service, with out inconveniencing the sender at all, and subsequently increasing postal rates.True. If, however, the postal junk mailer included a Business Reply envelope or postcard, you can always use it to express your displeasure at being put on their junk mail list.... No cost to you, extra revenue for the Post Office, and they pay to hear that you don't like to be bombarded with the stuff.
;>In general, I do this only for companies that I never bought from and that bombard me with LOTS of junk mail. Since a company pays to send junk mail, I don't find unsolicited postal mail offensive in itself. I save my real ire for junk faxes and spam
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websites and mailing listsAs others have mentioned, in the US there is a law against this and you'll probably need to get your company's lawyers involved.
There are a couple of resources for you and your lawyers to get started with. junkfax.org and http://www.junkfaxes.org are two separate websites dedicated to the cause, the second has an excellent mailing list where you'll find advice and experience on going after junkfaxers with the TCPA law.
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however...
This is NOT the first time that class action suits have been brought up, and I think it is VERY interesting, because some claim the law was only intended to give individual claimants the chance to get damages. Still, class action suits like this have been won before. Funny -- even fax.com
has been sued before!.
There's also the question of whether junk fax statutory damages can be appropriate for class action, although obviously this is only one perspective. -
however...
This is NOT the first time that class action suits have been brought up, and I think it is VERY interesting, because some claim the law was only intended to give individual claimants the chance to get damages. Still, class action suits like this have been won before. Funny -- even fax.com
has been sued before!.
There's also the question of whether junk fax statutory damages can be appropriate for class action, although obviously this is only one perspective. -
Re:'junk fax' law not a good targetThis is incorrect. Look at www.junkfaxes.org for more information. A quote from the page regarding the federal law:
The TCPA (47 USC 227) and its implementing FCC regulations ( mainly 47 CFR 64.1200) prohibits the transmission of any material advertising the commercial availability or quality of any product, service or property to any person without that person's prior express permission or request.
Under the TCPA, recipients of unsolicited fax advertisements, if otherwise permitted by the laws in their state, can file suit in state court to collect the greater of $500 or actual damages for each fax, and/or obtain an injunction. If a court determines that the violations were willful or knowing, the damages can be tripled at the discretion of the court