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  1. Re:Is there one in San Diego? by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 2 · on Stallman Suggests Install Fest 'Deals With Devil' Include Actual Man Dressed As Devil (gnu.org)

    Kernel-Panic Linux User Group (KPLUG) is the oldest and largest Linux User Group in San Diego.

  2. Re:All very good, but... by Tracy+Reed · · Score: 4, Informative · on How the NSA Took Linux To the Next Level

    I have been deployed around 30 CentOS 5 boxes over the last 6 months. I used to turn SE Linux off when it was expedient. Not anymore. I educated myself about how it works and a few basic commands. This:

    audit2allow -a -m local

    checkmodule -M -m -o local.m

    semodule_package -o local.pp -m local.mod

    semodule -i ./local.pp

    sequence of commands plus togglesebool has so far accomplished everything I have ever needed. I don't run any hand-written custom policy. And we have web servers, dns, mysql, web dev, and all kinds of other stuff.

    It sure is easier than setting up a bunch of iptables commands although I see it as analogous. I rarely hear people talk about what a pain iptables is (and it surely is a pain). I think learning SE Linux was even easier.

    I really look forward to more policy being applied to the desktop applications. That work is already well underway thanks to Dan Walsh over at RedHat who has already made a lot of progress in this area:

    http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/15700.html
    http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/18578.html
    http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/13376.html

    It is work like this that leads me to believe that Linux is not nearly so likely to become like Windows should it ever achieve a critical mass of desktop users. Security problems on the massive scale of some other operating systems are not inevitable. That is nice to know.

    Also, I will be doing a presentation on SE Linux at the Kernel Panic Linux Users Group:

    http://www.kernel-panic.org/meetings/general/08-07-10-general-meeting

    on July 10th, 2008. If you are in San Diego please stop by. It's a fun crowd and the after-meeting meeting at Denny's is always lively.

  3. Re:It's the people, stupid. by Tracy+Reed · · Score: 1 · on The REAL Reason We Use Linux

    You are absolutely right. I have been reading this thread and agreeing with all of the other technical arguments about why Linux is fun or safer or cheaper or whatever but you make a very good point about the people. For the last year I have been hanging out on a local Windows user group mailing list just to see how the other half lives. I have been on the local Linux user group mailing list for at least 12 years. The difference is night and day. The Windows user group mailing list has invites to various free lunches paid for by vendors who want to you to buy their stuff and the occasional chatter about some problem with SQL Server or IIS or something. When someone complains about Windows a rep from Microsoft shows up on the list to handle the situation. The Linux group is full of passionate discussion and debate about all manner of technical and political issues plus the usual advice giving and newbie helping. The Linux people are clearly in it for the love of it and the Windows users just seem to be there for a paycheck. Just look at the times people post to the lists. The local Linux folk are posting day and night and weekends. The Windows people are mostly 9 to 5'ers Monday through Friday. The Windows group meets at the local Microsoft office and watch a vendor presentation and then go home. The Linux group meets at a local school, put on their own presentation from 7 to 9 pm every second Thursday and then a dozen or so of them go to an after-meeting meeting at a nearby Denny's restaurant for conversation until midnight. If any of you are in the San Diego area check out http://kernel-panic.org/

    And on top of it all, tonight I hacked a new feature into Kudzu (detecting AoE disks so that Anaconda can install RedHat/CentOS onto them which is something I *really* need) made possible by Free Software and some help from my LUG friends so I'm pretty darn happy with the GNU/Linux community right now. I'll be sending that code to RedHat for sure because that's how I give back and we as a community keep improving our Free Software.

  4. Re:My thoughts by SJS · · Score: 1 · on No Threat to Linux with Apple and Intel Deal
    If anything slows Linux's desktop adoption, it's Linux, not OS X.
    Yup. And as Linux tries to grab a bigger piece of the pie, it's going to lose supporters. Being all things to all people is a way to be nothing to everyone.

    In general, people who buy Macs are not the same ones who install Linux, Jamie Zawinski and /. OS hackers not withstanding.
    The local linux user's group (KPLUG) has a strong showing of people who have Apple Powerbooks at the meetings. It seems that many people don't like the idea of being expected to sit in only one camp.

  5. Re:List of LUGs? by Darby · · Score: 1 · on Microsoft vs. Northwest Schools Part II

    Funny, this article convinced me to check it out.
    In San Diego there is KPLUG

    And what do you know, there is a meeting tonight.
    Hopefully someone there is keeping a list of potential volunteers.

  6. Geekcorps and creating LUG's by azteca79 · · Score: 1 · on Where Can One Find Computer Related Charity Work?
    First of all, I think you could join a group like Geekcorps they take IT to developing countries and partner with local businesses. There is also a story about them that was posted here in /.

    Another cool thing is to help people start LUG's in towns and cities that are lacking one. For example, here in Tijuana, México there is a LUG being formed (TJLUG), and we are getting help from people of the LUG across the border in San Diego, CA (KPLUG) and from another LUG in Ensenada, México (ELUG). So those 2 LUG's that are well organized and have experience can help other LUG's to be started and everyone wins.

    Also, going to schools and donating some time to help in the computers labs, teach children, etc.

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