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CD copy control
The problem with computer CD drives is that they won't work with the current copy control methods, like Midbar (=desert in Hebrew) or Sony's vicious key2audio - unless someone writes a firmware upgrade for them.
The upgrade should be very simple, and will consist of the following pseudo-code:
IF (cd is printed) AND (cd has audio tracks) THEN read_only_the_first_session -
Self serving statisticsThere are 250 Million blank CDRs and tapes bought and used this year for copying music in comparison to 213 Million prerecorded audio media. This means the owners are only being paid for 46 per cent of the musical content. For a comparison: In 1998 almost 90% of all audio media was paid for
And more: A conservative estimate is that 50% of these [sold blank CDRs] carry music.
These blatant assumptions just make me mad. I bought hundreds of CDRs for backups and I copied maybe one or two music CDs I already own to listen in the car...
Reminds me of the way software industry counts their losses: "my $600 program was posted on the internet. It must've been downloaded a million times, I just lost $600 million dollars!"
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Re:The focus on copies is about controlIt's not alarmist -- check this out for an example of 'copy protection' as marketing tool:
Step 1) Disable access to protected disc on computer.
Step 2) Offer special software to permit streaming access to a copy of the material by visiting website of the music label.
Step 3) Bombard you with ads whenever you visit the site to listen to the music you can't play directly from the disc.
BTW: This is the same scheme that locks some Macs, and is apparently defeated by your average marker. Anyway, make sure to keep bringing this point up whenever it looks like people are accepting the 'piracy' argument, because you and I both know there's more money in opening new revenue streams via controlling the medium than there is in loss management (and hey, if they can do both, so much the better).
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Re:You aren't making sense
According to the How it works-page on the official Key2Audio-site, this copy-protection actually don't compomise the red book-standard:
The high reliability is due to the fact that the audio part fully complies with the Red Book standard - not a single bit is changed in the audio data stream - i.e.: no uncorrectable errors are used to protect the audio data. This gives the highest audio quality for your protected music.
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Re:Absu - Tara, and all other Osmose CD'sI realized the same thing yesterday. Both the new Absu and Enslaved cd's (both on Osmose) don't play in CD-ROM-players.. Osmose confirmed this for all their new CD's, see the mail they sent me, below. It's from Herve "Mr Osmose-himself", just to show this is really a small label,
From: herve.osmose
To: my-email
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: new Enslaved/Absu cd's in cd-rom drive
Dear,
Osmose productions is under a 2 years text from our factory SONY/DADC to use the audio protection systems of anti piracy. it couldn't be play on the regular computer cd desk. you have to download a player on internet, or listen it on regular hifi.
H
The Sony page tells you about all the possible protections they offer innocent record-companies to protect themselves from the evil, criminal, pirating customers... It gives less data then the average PowerPoint-presentation, boet it does give a lot of propoganada (I especially liked this one 'For quite some time the software and music industry have been suffering from the constantly increasing number of illegal CD copies. Particularly in the Business-To-Consumer sector, non-paying*) users have long since become the majority. '. This is about the only mentioning of the word 'user' on their site.
The page then links on to here, the protection Osmose uses. I think I'll fill in their form to get some more info, even if it's just to see how much this costs the labels.
The player mentioned in the e-mail is just a vague promise that the label or artist should put the music online in a streaming format and give the user a code on the CD (no sign of either on these CD's), and guess what, it's based on 'playback license management based on the Windows Media DRM'. Damn, I knew Microsoft had to be involved somewhere...
I always thought smaller, quality labels like Osmose were closer to the bands and the fans and the scene, but it seems like I was wrong and Osmose is in the same league as the big record labels, $ony, AOL/TimeWarner/etc.., and perhaps even MS. I hope I'm wrong on this point, it would be a shame to lose a label like Osmose. Ofcourse I'm gonna let the label, the band, and my recordstore know how pissed I am, and I'm gonna try to find out if they can do this without putting a warning of some kind on the products (I doubt it).
*)non-paying users? I bought both these cd's, and I pay copyright tax on CD-R's. -
Re:Absu - Tara, and all other Osmose CD'sI realized the same thing yesterday. Both the new Absu and Enslaved cd's (both on Osmose) don't play in CD-ROM-players.. Osmose confirmed this for all their new CD's, see the mail they sent me, below. It's from Herve "Mr Osmose-himself", just to show this is really a small label,
From: herve.osmose
To: my-email
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: new Enslaved/Absu cd's in cd-rom drive
Dear,
Osmose productions is under a 2 years text from our factory SONY/DADC to use the audio protection systems of anti piracy. it couldn't be play on the regular computer cd desk. you have to download a player on internet, or listen it on regular hifi.
H
The Sony page tells you about all the possible protections they offer innocent record-companies to protect themselves from the evil, criminal, pirating customers... It gives less data then the average PowerPoint-presentation, boet it does give a lot of propoganada (I especially liked this one 'For quite some time the software and music industry have been suffering from the constantly increasing number of illegal CD copies. Particularly in the Business-To-Consumer sector, non-paying*) users have long since become the majority. '. This is about the only mentioning of the word 'user' on their site.
The page then links on to here, the protection Osmose uses. I think I'll fill in their form to get some more info, even if it's just to see how much this costs the labels.
The player mentioned in the e-mail is just a vague promise that the label or artist should put the music online in a streaming format and give the user a code on the CD (no sign of either on these CD's), and guess what, it's based on 'playback license management based on the Windows Media DRM'. Damn, I knew Microsoft had to be involved somewhere...
I always thought smaller, quality labels like Osmose were closer to the bands and the fans and the scene, but it seems like I was wrong and Osmose is in the same league as the big record labels, $ony, AOL/TimeWarner/etc.., and perhaps even MS. I hope I'm wrong on this point, it would be a shame to lose a label like Osmose. Ofcourse I'm gonna let the label, the band, and my recordstore know how pissed I am, and I'm gonna try to find out if they can do this without putting a warning of some kind on the products (I doubt it).
*)non-paying users? I bought both these cd's, and I pay copyright tax on CD-R's.