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Your binary releases can also be pre-linked
Because of open source, we can re-compile an application that doesn't work with the system libraries we may have, thereby avoiding having to overwrite system libraries whenever we install an application. Therefore we can have small packages that update nothing but the problem.
Agreed, this is key. Perhaps even more important though is the ability to statically link, so that binary releases can be built, a la Netscape, with everything version-independent (except for kernel dependencies which are few & far between thanks to the efforts of people like Torvalds and Cox). So you can download the binary app and expect to have it work, as it nearly always does when built this way [ed note: and when declared stable
Another factor of crucial importance is for this linking process to be carried out by anyone who wants to do it, i.e., access to the source code is important just as you say, but not necessarily for the same reason. Also consider - it's possible to re-link a dynamicly linked app to become a statically linked app using a linkage editor... I don't know if Linux has such utilities because I'm a relative newcomer to these development tools. But if they're not they're, we need them badly.
And therefore GNU/Linux will, unlike some other OS, have a massive share of the total server installations for many years to come.
(a) That and 1,000,000 other reasons
(b) It already does. (Check the situation as of last spring) -
Count the numbers...Just look up any `hacked page' archive which keeps track of the OS for the original website, and start counting. Keep in mind that Microsoft operating systems are actually less popular as a webserver platform than Linux, and Apache is far more popular than any MS offering (see The Internet Operating System Counter and netcraft). To make it easy on you, I did a count on some of the recent attrition archives and came up with these results (I only listed Linux, NT, Solaris, FreeBSD and OpenBSD, so the totals will NOT match the sum of the individual OS's):
year=month total Linux NT Solaris FreeBSD OpenBSD
1999-10 53 4 29 14 8 0
1999-09 259 72 82 62 12 0
1999-08 318 68 106 77 9 0
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total: 630 144 217 153 29 0
(apologies for the funky formatting, it used to be a nice table but
According to this logic, Linux is cleary more secure than Windows NT, especially when you `weigh' the numbers with the popularity (or lack thereof) for the individual operating systems.
Of course, the really interesting number is the 0 for OpenBSD. Pity though I have no idea how many OpenBSD sites there are out there... -
Re:is he wrong? ... Quite PossiblyWith all due respect, Dvorak seems pretty clueless about IRC. Can somebody explain to me why Dalnet's services are always down, and when they're up, they lag like crazy? Perhaps a bit of reworking by the Linux hordes would improve the situation. But I digress. The real point he's trying to make is that Linux doesn't cut it in server apps. He's wrong. Here are the top few os's out there in web server-land right now:
Host OS recognized
(Percent of totals servers, %change from previous survey) Sorry about the formatting. Check out The Internet Operating System Counter for yourself. (Too bad there isn't a more recent survey - the trend would be interesting indeed.
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1.( ) Linux 31.3% +2.8
2.( ) Windows 95/98/NT 24.3% -0.1
3.( ) Solaris/SunOS 16.7% -1.0
4.( ) BSD Family 14.6% -0.4
5.( ) IRIX 4.6% -0.7
6.( 7.) Mac/Apple 2.1% +0.5
Hmm, now Dvorak finally concluded by allowing that Linux is likely to be a killer on the low end, so, hmm, I don't really see where he's coming from. He certainly comes across as pretty clueless this time. -
A real life example from Cornell.eduFor more than 3 years I had a working mirror of a
directory on ftp://cs.cornell.edu. They changed
the hostname into ftp://ftp.cs.cornell.edu) you get
a greeting which tells you, that this FTP server
is running on Windows NT.
I wouldn't care if the mirror software I was using
('mirror' and 'wget') wouldn't have stopped working.
A sysadmin there answered my complaint:"
Sounds like a joke but it is really sad:
but will keep this in mind as we broaden our horizons."
they introduce an incompatibility with UNIX
software which has a market share on the server
side of approx. 75% (see here). And then they
claim that these problems are Linux's faults.
When Microsoft enters the game,
compatibility is among the first victims.
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Re:Natural Selection..
If we're to believe the recent stories about IRIX, there's your 5% right there for the taking... (Albeit slightly out of date.)
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42.7% of all german servers run Linux!It's not the computers in gerneral which run Linux. Those numbers are similar all over the world: Microsoft is dominant.
But considering only the OSes which run servers (FTP, HTTP, News), so a survey done by leb.net ( The Internet OS Counter) shows 42.7% Linux in the
In detail:
- 59.8% of all FTP-Servers run Linux
- 37.8% of all Web-Servers run Linux
- 31.8% of all News-Servers run Linux
Markus Senoner -
Re:Troublingwith a marketshare of 17% in servers, it will be hard to convince hardware manufacturers to go Windows-only on the PC architecture
Ah, this must be Microsoft FUD
Percentage of Web Servers running Linux: 31.3%
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IOSC
An appendage to my post above... Response details: Host OS recognized
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* FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD 1 1.9%
* Linux 1.2.xx 1 1.9%
* Linux 1.3.xx, 2.0.0 to 2.0.34 1 1.9%
* Linux 2.0.35 to 2.0.9999
* Solaris 2.x 5 9.4%
* Windows95/98/NT (queso 980922 "Cisco 11.2" error) 11 20.8%
* Windows 95/98/NT 24 45.3%
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++checksums 53 100.0% From the Internet Operating System Counter.
GO LINUX!!!
In the interest of disclosure, I should note that there were 32 unrecognized hosts, most of which gave valid responses. These are obviously the secret IranOS that controls missile-guidance systems, nuclear submarines and an army of cyborg robots marching toward the US.
Anyone want to smurf 'em? -
WWW, FTP and NEWS only!
The website for the project specifically says they only queried hosts with names beginning with "ftp.", "news.", and "www.".
It's not intended to be a survey of computers connected to the internet. It's only a survey of computers serving content.
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No Linux-2.2.x ???The results has a breakdown of Responce details, and it mentions various versions of Linux, but there are NO version 2.2.x... To me that's rather strange.
Maybe it's just the OS Counter that needs to be told about Linux-2.2. But does it mean that Linux-2.2 machines are categorised wrongly, or does it mean they're not counted at all???
I hope to see even more Linux machines turn op here, and generally everywhere else!
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speech recognition on Linux
Speech recognition on Linux is going to be a difficult problem to solve, alone. There are tools out there to do it, but it is going to require massive coordination.
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Another way to estimate LinuxUsersAnother counter, not for Linux, but for operating systems in general can be found here: http://www.leb.net/hzo/ioscount.
According to this survey, 31% of all WWW/FTP/News Servers worldwide seem to run Linux - wow! 1191755 hosts were queried (for a comparison: Netcraft queried 4301512 sites, so the numbers are quite representative).
Doing a little math, considering there are about n servers on the net, we get n*0.31 servers running Linux worldwide.
Markus Senoner -
Browser for the blind - Lynx and BLYNXA couple of addresses, which I may even get to be clickable (haven't tried this before..):
The BLINUX project holds all sorts of tools and documentation for blind linux users. One of those is BLYNX, a project based around Lynx.
BLINUX is at http://leb.net/blinux/ and BLYNX is at http://leb.net/blinux/blynx/index.html. There are mirrors, but I believe that's the main site.
Lynx allows you to mess with all sorts of things: as the previous poster suggests, one of the options is indeed numbered links. I use this facility all the time as it's quicker than hitting the cursor keys a lot
This is not to say, of course, that IBM don't need to create a browser which works for the blind. The more of them the better, in my opinion! I'm sure there's more than just Lynx, too. These are just the pages I happen to know about.
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Browser for the blind - Lynx and BLYNXA couple of addresses, which I may even get to be clickable (haven't tried this before..):
The BLINUX project holds all sorts of tools and documentation for blind linux users. One of those is BLYNX, a project based around Lynx.
BLINUX is at http://leb.net/blinux/ and BLYNX is at http://leb.net/blinux/blynx/index.html. There are mirrors, but I believe that's the main site.
Lynx allows you to mess with all sorts of things: as the previous poster suggests, one of the options is indeed numbered links. I use this facility all the time as it's quicker than hitting the cursor keys a lot
This is not to say, of course, that IBM don't need to create a browser which works for the blind. The more of them the better, in my opinion! I'm sure there's more than just Lynx, too. These are just the pages I happen to know about.