Domain: mae.net
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Comments · 14
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Re:McLean VA?
...too bad nobody's connected to it anymore. Once upon a time it was the largest exchange point on the east coast (and possibly the world). Years of crappy performance followed by replacement with a complicated ATM architecture that no one wanted to use ensured that several viable alternatives sprung up in the area, and thus its subsequent rapid decline.
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Re:We already paid for 45Mbps - cheating bastards
Companies peer traffic for free but they are paying to connect to the backbone fabric and all the costs associated with that - colo/rack space, ports [or whatever you want to call "internal connectivity at the NAP into the backbone"] fiber runs (to/from NAPs) are not free to google or yahoo or MSN. In fact if you want to do "free" peering at any MAE you still pay Verizon AFAIK http://www.mae.net/peer/index.htm and then use their tool to pick who you want to peer with.
http://www.techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20060324/1 829206&cid=354
So, again Yahoo and Google and MSN and eBay all pay for bandwidth/ports/access/rack space as do all the customers using FTTP/Cable/DSL/Dial Up - nobody is "not paying" the greedy telco's. I am sure that Equinix and MAE/Verizon are making pleny of money from all that "free" service they are providing to google and yahoo. https://ecc.equinix.com/peering/ExchangeTrafficHom e.jsp -
Re:A solution can be...
*Sigh*. Why do you spew nonsense if you actually have not even found out how a clue looks like, not to mention ever aquired one ?
So you claim there are no Internet Exchange Points ?
pray tell, what is this thing ? Or that one, not to mention the middle one.
Oh, and what do you think those Guys do for a living ?
Nobody expects you to be a fucking genius or know everything. But why are some folks constantly touting stupid nonsense instead of keeping their mouths shut and learning something ? -
Re:A solution can be...
*Sigh*. Why do you spew nonsense if you actually have not even found out how a clue looks like, not to mention ever aquired one ?
So you claim there are no Internet Exchange Points ?
pray tell, what is this thing ? Or that one, not to mention the middle one.
Oh, and what do you think those Guys do for a living ?
Nobody expects you to be a fucking genius or know everything. But why are some folks constantly touting stupid nonsense instead of keeping their mouths shut and learning something ? -
Re:Not all that easy...
The "Mayes?" Why don't you learn about what you're trying to write about so you don't end up looking like an idiot? Since I'm feeling like such a nice guy, Here's a link to remedy your stupidity.
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Re:Line of sight?
It's not just commercial transactions are out. Encryption on amature shortwave is a no-no, too. There goes SSH, https:, VPNs, etc..And 9600bps? <Shudder>
Reminds me trying to get through MAE-East, about 10 years ago. At times, it was SO congested that it was faster and less of a headache to use a 14.4 modem to dial into St. Louis (had to go far enough West to keep from being routed back through it) from DC and just skip that particular choke point. But I digress.
No, leave the amature shortwave stuff alone for this situation.
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Re:In the case of a nuclear attack?If this building were destroyed by a nuclear weapon, what would be the impact on the Internet?
I wouldn't care so much about the Internet at that point, as I'd be part of the fallout raining down.
Other than that, Mae-East would likely be severly crippled/destroyed and ISPs the world over would come under a telephonic DOS attack from "gamers" complaining about their ping times and latency.
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Yes, Virginia...
Although [Jaynes is] based in North Carolina, Virginia is asserting jurisdiction over Jaynes because he sent messages through computers located in the state.
Yeah, him and most everyone else on the east coast. Sounds like a pretty large jurisdiction to me.
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[OT]"Watch a movie with Mae West" is ambiguous
heavy women were considered highly attractive. If you don't believe me, watch a movie with Mae West
Say I watch a movie with Mae West. That is, I download the movie over the Internet, and the bits travel over the Mae West router. Result: All the star actresses in this movie are thin because nearly all the movies I can find on eDonkey are relatively recent.
This illustrates a problem with the English language's instrumental construct, such that "with" can refer to "containing" which you probably meant (movie with Mae West == movie starring Mae West) or to "using" (watch a movie with Mae West == watch a movie via Mae West).
ObEvolution: I'm surprised that with the "evolution" of huperchildity, language hasn't become any more precise.
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Re:Let me go out on a limb here...
4. The rest of us will be bored out of our minds.
On the contrary. There's very little chance I'll ever end up working at Worldcom. But I tuned into this item with great anticipation. Worldcom is one the key internet providers, what with their backbone networks, data exchanges, and ISP operations. Anything they do impacts us all, and insight into their corporate culture is of much interest! -
Re:your cisco?
MAE West is one of the major switching facilities in the US. If it goes down, it can take a lot of ISPs (and their customers) with it.
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Re:Take out the root.a (etc...) NS. then...
For a real interesting experiment, turn off the power in MAE-East and watch what happens...
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Re:Ever heard of...
MAE-East and MAE-West (metropolitan Area Exchange) handle 70-80% of all traffic that goes from one backbone to another., and are paid for by the government.
Although the NSF "designated" several NAPs (Network Access Points) including the MAE-East, I'm not sure any tax money went to support their operations, and very sure that there was no financial support after the end of the NSFNET.
The MAEs are now onwed by MCI/Worldcom, and you have to pay to collocate a router there or run bandwidth into the facility.
I wouldn't say 70-80% of traffic flows through the "public" (i.e. anyone can connect) NAP switches any more. Things are far more complex these days. Every large Tier 1 provider has private peering with several other Tier 1 providers. Besides the MAEs there are all kinds of hosting facilities aimed at attracting routers from various ISPs to exchange traffic in various geographical regions of the world.
For more info on the history of the MAE East, you can watch a "Mysteries of the MAE East" show I did, it is on the bottom of the linked page. -
Re:MAC addresses, privacy, conspiracies1.6ms to search 16M entries? Surely not that hard - we have O(log(N)) search algorithms don't we? A binary chop search through a 16M entry table takes 24 steps, absolute worst case. That gives you 0.0667ms, i.e. 66.7us. That's a lot of time - you don't even need hardware for that. Heck, I have hardware 10 years old that can do that in software.
Not sure I agree with your maths though. Maybe you meant us not ms? OK, so that's harder, but it doesn't require wildly fast memory. (It's over an order of magnitude slower than typical 1st level processor cache memory.) I'm guessing that you have to pay a lot of money for a router big enough and ugly enough to be in a MAE, and that this particular aspect of it isn't that big a deal?
Where does the 1GB figure come from by the way? Looking at www.mae.net they talk about "multiple 155Mbps circuits". Mostly they don't talk about anything faster than 100Mbps on their site as far as I can see. So I think even accounting for your units error, I think you're an order of magnitude out there - we have more like 16us per packet, which doesn't sound that ambitious.