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Re:This isn't a question
1. Where do you think all those kids up for adoption come from? It's not same-sex marriages that failed. Many of these adoptive kids have experienced domestic violence, and foster homes are rife with child abuse and child sexual abuse. Pedophilia is a heterosexual guy's thing - just ask the Duggars.
Additionally, adopted kids are wanted kids. 50% of children born to heterosexuals are "accidents."
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Recent studies reveal that 45-55% of married women and 50-60% of married men engage in extramarital sex at some time or another during their relationship (Atwood & Schwartz, 2002 - Journal of Couple & Relationship Therapy)
About 60 percent of men and 40 percent of women will have an affair at some point in some marriage "Monogamy Myth", Therapist Peggy Vaugn
Conservative infidelity statistics estimate that “60 percent of men and 40 percent of women will have an extramarital affair. These figures are even more significant when we consider the total number of marriages involved, since it's unlikely that all the men and women having affairs happen to be married to each other. If even half of the women having affairs (or 20 percent) are married to men not included in the 60 percent having affairs, then at least one partner will have an affair in approximately 80 percent of all marriages. With this many marriages affected, it's unreasonable to think affairs are due only to the failures and shortcomings of individual husbands or wives.
Note that the above adultry statistics of the prevalence of affairs were made more than a decade ago; so based on changes in society during the intervening years, the current percentage of the population who have had affairs is probably somewhat HIGHER. For instance, the continuing increase of women in the workplace and the increase of women having affairs on the Internet means that the numbers for women having affairs is probably similar to those for men—about 60%.
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Re:Obvious....
Odd... I recall other statistical studies that showed women cheated more than men.
As they say, you can show anything with statistics. But here are some interesting stats on infidelity. Highlights:
- Recent studies reveal that 45-55% of married women and 50-60% of married men engage in extramarital sex at some time or another during their relationship
- About 60 percent of men and 40 percent of women will have an affair at some point in some marriage
- Younger people are more likely candidates; in fact, younger women are as likely as younger men to be unfaithful.
- 35 percent of Americans thought adultery should be a crime in the United states
- more
Trust no one! This article on how Brilliant men always betray their wives is quite interesting as well - "Honey, it's not that I don't love you, it's just that I'm brilliant!".
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Re:Obvious....
Odd... I recall other statistical studies that showed women cheated more than men.
As they say, you can show anything with statistics. But here are some interesting stats on infidelity. Highlights:
- Recent studies reveal that 45-55% of married women and 50-60% of married men engage in extramarital sex at some time or another during their relationship
- About 60 percent of men and 40 percent of women will have an affair at some point in some marriage
- Younger people are more likely candidates; in fact, younger women are as likely as younger men to be unfaithful.
- 35 percent of Americans thought adultery should be a crime in the United states
- more
Trust no one! This article on how Brilliant men always betray their wives is quite interesting as well - "Honey, it's not that I don't love you, it's just that I'm brilliant!".
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Re:Three points
Even the most softcore porn featuring a 17 year old is illegal,
JB Ramsey,
Meanwhile, there's a woman in a bikini strattling a man in an ad on a website targeting young girls.
http://www.girland.com/
Meanwhile Planned Parenthood wants girls on the pill. Of any age.
http://parents.berkeley.edu/advice/teens/thepill.h tml
http://www.eadshome.com/plannedparenthood.htm
http://www.ppwi.org/?processor=content§ionpath =30/31/33&complexcontentid=766
Meanwhile sexual content is a marketing tool used to get the attention of teens.
http://www.focusas.com/SexualBehavior.html
http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/sexrevol.ht ml
Meanwhile a Kraft commercial starred a junior high scool-age boy offering his cheese sandwich to a young girl. When she accepts,
Barry White's "let's get it on" plays.
http://www.thefixx.net/printthread.php?s=d98713dfe a3bd42a3bdb0aa1b8097b7b&threadid=537&perpage=13
Meanwhile Dave Matthew's band "crash into me" is (was, 10 years ago) played on radio stations anytime day or night. Meanwhile "sex and candy" was on the radio day and night.
Meanwhile Walmart sells thongs geared to young teens
http://www.menstuff.org/archives/walmart.html#2002
Meanwhile many marketing campaigns across the nation are either:
Promoting some (shirt,dress,jeans) as a way for girls to look sexier and thus more attractive to boys.
Using shows that do promote teen sexuality (and are thus more attractive to teens) as a vehicle to promote their items (sponsors of the afore - mentioned Doogie Houser episode)
Meanwhile MTV, in addition to showing "love in an elevator" and Madonna's "like a prayer" video (again, dating myself) begins a show TITLED "MTV undressed" where teens frolic in bedrooms wearing underwear. Unmarried, bi, gay, or straight seems to make no difference.
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Re:Health care conspiracies at work
I googled for that stuff you say about the dangers of circumcision, found several web sites with the exact same statement. What else did they all have in common? No references. They all say 209 baby boys die every year because of circumcision, but none add an "according to \insert name of reputable journal here\". In fact these sound very much like the class of information I describe as "internet truths" - that is things that are stated to be true across many web sites, but which actually are not.
I'll grant that it could be a dangerous operation in, say, sub-saharan africa where there is a danger of non-sterile medical instruments or poor sanitary conditions, but in first world nations such as the US? No.
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Re:Health care conspiracies at work
You're either trolling or retarded. Judging from the content of your post, and granting you the benefit of the doubt I'll assume the latter.
What you're suggesting is akin to a clitorectomy to improve the aesthetics of the labia. A barbaric and widely outlawed practice in almost every country today.
Consider that:
* 85% of the worlds male population is intact.
* The US is the only Country that routinely circumcises their infant males.
* Our country passed a bill to protect females from being sexually mutilated......WHY doesn't this bill protect males from being sexually mutilated.
What they don't tell you...........
* 10,000 + specialized erotogenic nerve endings are permanently severed and lost
* 240 feet of microscopic nerves
* 12 square inches of tissue if unfolded
* The male loses about 40 % of his sensitivity
* 209 baby boys die each year from circumcision and related complications
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Re:C.R.E.A.M.I kind of agree with this and the other posters who share this view. If it was as easy as "follow your passion, your dreams will come true" we all would do it, woudln't we? Who really wants to be stuck in a job they don't really like?
The reality is that in our society not everybody can have the most desirable jobs. There are plenty of us who will end up working at McDonalds or Wal-Mart for minimum wage for a portion of our lives.
I read this article a while back, about this same subject: Do What You Love and You'll Probably Starve.
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Men get breast cancer too.
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Your own straw wo/man
Feminism isn't a nuanced socio-political critique and attacking databyss on this point shows that you're merely trying to frame the argument in such a way as to get your agenda across.
Feminism is and can be many things but in practice it is: an ideology, a socio-political agenda to advance the rights of (genetic) women, and a belief system much like a religion that appears to hold women as victims above all else/others.In some hands it is even a human and civil rights struggle.However, given the level of oppression in thought and of others (treatment of bisexual women, transgenders and men)I don't see feminism as the paragon of virtue you apparently do.
You're jumping all over the place here. Just how you get from one person's personal experiences to extrapolating an entirely specious statistic (Did you not read what the project was about? It isn't about Domestic Violence in general) is a leap of logic (by way of a particularly horrible comic strip) that defies description.
You have not credibly shown by your comments that women as a class are disempowered. You have also not credibly proven that women haven't in some form or fashion chosen these roles even if true (I clearly remember times when women were chastized for raising children ,whether they stayed home or not, rather than join the workforce full time).
Additionally there is no possible way that any reasonable accounting of domestic violence not account for: male on male, female on female and female on male (and this isn't even taking into account transgender and intersexed people) violence making any commentary on a mythic 95% entirely suspect.Certainly when those other potentials are eliminated (and they haven't been explored in general amongst U.S. studies).While you're formulating your response I offer these links to other positions on domestic violence:
http://www.mensrights.com.au/page13q.htm http://www.mensrights.com.au/page13c.htm http://www.dvmen.org/dv-28.htm http://www.crimereduction.gov.uk/domesticviolence4 2.htm http://www.batteredmen.com/batfact.htm http://www.dvmen.org/dv-32.htm#pgfId-1353321 http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm http://www.teamcares.org/alternative_abuse.html http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/whodv.html http://www.wyrdsmiths.com/index.php?fid=lawrdv
Where are most women generally humiliated? Unless this is the case in Podunk, Arkansas I don't see it. I also don't see how it is that women don't objectify or attempt to enforce their own versions of "appropriate" gender roles. I've certainly seen it often enough.
First of all databyss never said he knew what feminists want. Heck, I'd argue that feminists don't know what feminists want. By stating that you know what "feminists" want is to state that there is a single unifying delineation of what feminism means and stands for. Despite the attempts of many to have the "one true feminism" there's a great deal of debate on what those goals should be. I'd argue that your "feminists" are merely a different selection of random women than databyss's. Still, nice of you to excuse women wanting to have it both ways
"There's a lot of FUD surrounding gender issues, mainly because everyone thinks they understand "men" and "women" as social classes based solely on their own interpersonal experience."
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Re:Nothing new here
I don't want my children or wife to be anywhere near these people.
Then don't invite the relatives over, no matter where you end up.