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  1. Re:Atari's Jackintosh was a weak copy by dmaxwell · · Score: 1 · on Happy Birthday, Amiga

    Actually, the ST-as-a-platform lasted a bit longer in Europe than you think.

    http://www.kingx.com/kingx/medusa/thes.html
    http://www.milan-computer.de/gb/products/milan01.h tml

    The ST did have a persistant niche for a while as a midi controller/composition tool. I'll agree with you that the Amiga was generally more advanced and had a better OS.

  2. Re:Open Hardware doesnt work by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 2, Interesting · on Open Graphics Project Looking For Funding

    The fabrication costs for one run of these cards can be huge. Even going with 130 nm technology (which is already "outdated") can cost a million dollars just for the masks. Yield, packaging, and other issues can easily push up the costs to several times that.

    I think the already-mentioned FPGAs have shown that it's possible to build hardware that, while not as cheap as a fully mass-produced thing, can still prove fairly cost-effective.

    I used to have an Atari ST (actually, still do - except it's only booted up on special occasions). In the dying days of that platform, various enthusiasts took it upon themselves to design their own ultra-fast Atari clones, using a mix of off-the-shelf components and custom designs on FPGAs.

    Something tells me that if it's possible for someone to design a whole new machine without millions of dollars to spare, it'll also be possible to design a basic graphics card for running on an FPGA.

    But then, why not use some off-the-shelf graphics chip as the heart of the system, and use any profit on the sales of that to help fund the development of a newer design? Or am I just being silly?

  3. Re:You can try out MGR... by Lproven · · Score: 1 · on What GUIs Came Before X11?

    <<Of course there's also the native Atari GUI, GEM. I've a feeling you can get the source for DR's GEMDOS now, but I may be wrong. >>

    GEM was originally a PC product, ported to a cut-down version of CM/P-68K (GEMDOS) on the ST. The PC version is now owned by Lineo, the thin-clients division of Caldera, and it has made PC GEM GPLed free software. Efforts are afoot to update it and bring it up to parity with commercial GEM developments such as Magic which run on modern ST-compatibles like the Milan.

    You can check out progress on the prject, download source and binaries and join the discussion mailing list on the FreeGEM homepage.

  4. Re:What's next? by Troed · · Score: 2 · on Amiga - Back From the Dead?
    What "will be"? The Atari is still produced and developed today, as clones. The userbase (still alive and kicking) is producing the operating system (which is preemptive multitasking and all that, I'm not following it closely)

    Milan is one Atari clone

  5. Linux is running on Atari 030's and clones by Troed · · Score: 1 · on Making Music With Linux: We're Getting There ...
    ... so I'd be surprised if nothing had been done about the support for the built in MIDI ports then?

    In any case, that's the platform this should be targeted at. Look at computers like the Milan etc.

  6. Re:Amino by Christopher+B.+Brown · · Score: 3 · on Amino Got More Than the Amiga Name
    I'll betcha they offer a computer system that:
    • Multitasks
    • Offers 3D graphics and lots of colours
    • Is widely useful for many kinds of tasks
    and costs less than $2000.

    Of course, you can get a Milan or Medusa for probably around that price...