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Conquery & LinkificationMy two favorite extensions aren't mentioned in the article. They are:
- Conquery - let's you select any text on a web page, and in the right click menu you have an option to send this text to search engines and other sites (Wikipedia, IMDB, Amazon, Urban Dictionary, Google Images,...). The list is of course customizable, and you can use the standard Firefox search plugins.
- Linkification - converts plain text links to clickable links, very useful on forums like Slashdot. Has a lot of options.
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Re:For those without Adblock
As the site has been Slashdotted already, have a Coralised, Printer-friendly version.
Oh, for shame! Such an easy chance to plug something on-topic, yet another FF extension...
Resurrect Pages lets you check all the major internet cache sites for dead content. -
sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
- Navigation
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sensationalismIAAFPS and i call bs on this one
if this list were anywhere near accurate it should have included these extensions:
- Navigation
- Thumbs - Shows the first thumbnail from each linked gallery, letting you skip galleries that don't look interesting.
- Linky - Open all links in tabs, etc.
- firefusk - view all images from galleries with numerically named image files.
- Browse Images - Use the Forward button or Alt+Shift+Right to go to the next image.
- Location Navigator - Select a portion of a URL that varies, then navigate up or down.
- Digger - Navigate to parent directories in URLs, etc.
- refspoof - Modify your HTTP Referer to gain access to sites that use insecure login mechanisms.
- Downloading and saving
- DownThemAll - Download all the links to images/movies on a page at once.
- FlashGot - Download all the links on a page at once using an external download manager.
- Download sort - Save files to folders based on extension or download date.
- spiderzilla - Download entire web sites.
- Super DragAndGo - Drag a link to open it in a new tab; drag an image to save it.
- Videos
- Launchy - Open links to video files in an external player, streaming, so you can watch a video without waiting to download it. (Note that not all video players support streaming video; for example, WinAmp 5.111 hangs. VLC works well. Here's my launchy.xml for VLC.)
- MediaPlayerConnectivity - Open embedded video in an external player, so you can use features like Full Screen.
- Images
- Image Zoom - Convenient shortcuts for zooming images.
- mozImage - Browse images on hard drive or view them in a slideshow.
Most of the authors of these extensions are not yet members of the Pornzilla project.
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And add in flashblock while you're at it.
Flashblock makes sites browsable again. Stop autoplay falls into the same category
Other simple extensions that make life saner include copy as plain text (A life-saver in this "MS-we-know-what-you're trying-to-do" world) and the BugMeNot extension.
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And add in flashblock while you're at it.
Flashblock makes sites browsable again. Stop autoplay falls into the same category
Other simple extensions that make life saner include copy as plain text (A life-saver in this "MS-we-know-what-you're trying-to-do" world) and the BugMeNot extension.
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And add in flashblock while you're at it.
Flashblock makes sites browsable again. Stop autoplay falls into the same category
Other simple extensions that make life saner include copy as plain text (A life-saver in this "MS-we-know-what-you're trying-to-do" world) and the BugMeNot extension.
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And add in flashblock while you're at it.
Flashblock makes sites browsable again. Stop autoplay falls into the same category
Other simple extensions that make life saner include copy as plain text (A life-saver in this "MS-we-know-what-you're trying-to-do" world) and the BugMeNot extension.
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What about unplug? What about flashgot?
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2254/
It allows you to rip streaming content easily from websites. It can handle everything from flash movies (.flv) on youtube to mp3 data streamed to your web browser. Paired with the Flashgot plugin:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/220/
You can download all of the links on a webpage, just like certain download managers used to. Its a great combo. -
What about unplug? What about flashgot?
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2254/
It allows you to rip streaming content easily from websites. It can handle everything from flash movies (.flv) on youtube to mp3 data streamed to your web browser. Paired with the Flashgot plugin:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/220/
You can download all of the links on a webpage, just like certain download managers used to. Its a great combo. -
Adblock?
Why isn't adblock mentioned?
*fires up internet explorer, browses tfa*
Oh.
Two flash ads & an animated gif (along with the pop-up). Not surprised they didn't mention ad block plus and filterset g.
Install them & never see another ad again. Ever. (without any sort of configuration). -
Adblock?
Why isn't adblock mentioned?
*fires up internet explorer, browses tfa*
Oh.
Two flash ads & an animated gif (along with the pop-up). Not surprised they didn't mention ad block plus and filterset g.
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HmmMost of these are not Mac-only, but here is my list of essentials:
- Transmission (Get the latest beta; the 'official' version hasn't been updated in awhile)
- VLC
- iTunes
- Seamonkey
- TextWrangler
- MS Word
That's all I can think of now.
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Some of Mine:
Being a web developer who works from home, here's my short list of tools I like:
Web Developer Ext. for Mozilla: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/60/
MailTags: http://www.indev.ca/MailTags.html
FTP/SFTP Client: http://cyberduck.ch/
Text Editor: http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/
OpenOffice: http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/
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Re:Thunderbird
The Lightning extension for Thunderbird works pretty well, is free/open source, and cross-platform
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Re:Thunderbird
there is also mozilla sunbird as a standalone calendar program that you can use, or if someone use vista the new windows calendar works pretty good, there is also kontact for kde that is really good
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Re:It was only 9 megs
There is an extension for Firefox that lets you use your gmail account as an online storage database. This makes it quite realistic to use up all of your space. Enjoy
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Linux : Speaking of which...
Think about the AV products for Linux or Mac. Most of them clean Windows viruses out of files/emails so that they won't infect other machines
Speaking of which, it is a pity that the opensource world wasn't represented :
ClamAV is a very good solution, it also has a Windows client which may lack real-time on-access scan, but has numerous plugins (like, for example, built-in for Outlook, or downloadable for FireFox) and few hacks for on-access scanning.
It has been regularly touted for its fast response time against new threats, it supports hrdware acceleration.
It's just a shame that nobody included the anti-virus in the comparison chart. It may not be a ready-for-joe-6pack AV product (no on-access scan) but it's a nice complement for power users. -
Re:Stupid
That header bar works great for me, but I find it annoying and doubly so because you cannot simply disable it in your user preferences (because, after all, our header bar is SO WONDERFUL who would ever want to disable it?). So, I installed the FireFox extension Remove It Permanently and used that to get rid of it, since NoScript isn't selective enough to be able to block it without also losing the ability to expand comments without opening a new page. At any rate, Remove It Permanently did the job well, and may be an option in your case if you also don't care to see it.
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Re:Preoccupation with p0rn?
can I yEnc or uuencode my p0rn before posting it and be exempt from these tracking requirements?
Just base64 it into a data URI. I'm reminded of this phrack issue (loopback 0x0f):
Authorities are clueless, they shouldn't be pushing laws on subjects they fail to grok.
"Below is the schematic diagram (gps_jammer.ps) in an uuencoded gzipped
PostScript file. This is the native Xcircuit[12] format and is used for
ease of viewing, printing and modification."
How many FBI agents weaned on Windows will it take to get past the first
hurdle: uuencoded?
[ So many that after 8 month we decided to help them out:
http://www.phrack.org/dump/phrack_gps_jammer.png
Or for the advanced agent:
$ uudecode p60-0x0d.txt && gunzip -d gps_jammer.ps.gz && \
gv gps_jammer.ps
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Re:Ads by Google
You obviously need Ad Block Plus
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Re:As a webmasterIt's an issue of browsers not implementing the current standards fully nor correctly.
Browsers are still playing catchup to full XHTML/CSS compliance.
'Javascript' is a moving target, with incompatible dialects in each browser. ECMA standardized the language some years back but vendors keep adding new features that aren't available in other browsers yet.
It would be nice if web designers could at least use a baseline of available web standards of 2006 and know that all the major browsers would support them correctly. i.e. CSS2.x, ECMA-262 v3 and E4X.
Sadly, today's web applications tend to implement workarounds specific to IE and firefox (gmail for example), leaving other browsers as unsupported.
So it's not about designing websites to run with any browser that will ever exist in the future but a battle creating ones that run using the standards of today.
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Re:Does Vista have anything we need?I'd *love* a program that reads/writes iCalendar files to web sites via WebDAV (though CalDAV would be better)... Mozilla Sunbird can, and CalDAV support is planned (CalDAV isn't yet a finalised spec).
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Re:A nice surprise!
DownloadHelper's the best: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3006/
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Re:A nice surprise!
Is there software to download and store videos from youtube for Linux?
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Re:Flaw is locale-dependent
I could be wrong, but I don't think you can really predict the character output of a keydown event, as it happens on a keystroke-level, before important factors (dead keys, shift and caps state, keyboard layout) are analyzed to determine the final character. The appropriate event for that would be keypress, but on my tests it can't be hijacked (maybe there could be some trick). So, you'd need a few initial keystrokes to test which characters they produce, and then attempt to guess the layout being used.
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Re:CPU Hogging bug fixed????
I would volunteer for the job, but only long enough to find and hire and train the right person. Could I really do that? Yes, but I don't expect to be asked.
If I were the temporary head of the Mozilla Foundation, my priority would be to fix the remaining bugs.
The second quote pretty much implies you're not the right person for the job. Having a "flawless" product is not the number one priority for Mozilla, or most software producers for that matter. Why? Because by the time you're done polishing your precious baby, all you competitors will be about a decade ahead of you, feature-wise, and you'll be out of business. Firefox has its current position in the market because it was released at the right time and it had the right amount of innovations. Timing is essential it seems you can't see that.
The issue with the CPU hogging bug is this: Browsers are our windows on the world; they are VERY important. I don't accept any cynicism about the importance of browsers; it is literally true that they are important to the human efficiency. People like me who often have 10 windows with 30 tabs each really suffer when every window and tab crashes. I'm not the only one.
I agree with you regarding the importance of browsers. And I agree that these are real bugs that need to be fixed, but there are always priorities, and you're talking about a bug that occurs to a small segment of the target audience of Firefox. My guess is that a regular user has one window and less than a dozen tabs open at a time. It's no excuse for having a product that doesn't scale well, but it's still important to cater for the needs of the many, and there are much more important bugs to fix in that sense. (Disclaimer: I don't work for Mozilla, the most I've done is resolve duplicates and invalids and post one or two bugfixes)
Opera is stable and also free, but suffers from some bad design decisions. For having a look at Digg and Reddit and other common destinations, I use a separate computer and 10 installations of Opera. I like that Opera can be installed in separate folders that don't interfere with each other.
I like Opera as well, but I prefer Firefox. You can have multiple installations of Firefox in different folders, and you can also run them without interfering with each other. Again, it's something that the majority isn't interested in. I only use it for extension development.
I was surprised by this in your comment above: "You're probably just trolling,
That's why I used the word "probably", because I wasn't entirely sure, and I'm still not sure. Your 20 reasons post looks more like a list of disadvantages and features of a distributed bug tracking system. Bottom line is: your priorities are not necessarily Mozilla's, nor are your views. I can mention one specific bug which annoys the hell out of me and I don't understand the reasoning behind the INVALID resolution, but that doesn't make me think any less of Mozilla or their bug resolution process, it only means we have a different view on how things should work.
I think your language and persistence is what makes me wonder if you're trolling, but I'm sure you have your reasons to have a beef with Mozilla. I strongly disagree with you, that's all.
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CPU Hogging bug fixed????
Wow! I don't have the time to understand the bug thoroughly, but it certainly has the characteristics of the CPU hogging bug. I like this: Comment 31: "... if the loop is length more like 25,000 instead of 250, does the number of inner windows actually increase to 25,000? I see 250 inner windows with the testcase for sure..."
That certainly seems like the CPU hogging bug. Fixing the bug took more than 4 years, and resulted in a lot of foolish and sometimes abusive behavior from Mozilla developers, like the 20 excuses linked above. I learned how little Mozilla developers know about the theory of science.
Still, nothing about this changes the fact that Mozilla Foundation needs technically oriented top management. I would volunteer for the job, but only long enough to find and hire and train the right person. Could I really do that? Yes, but I don't expect to be asked.
If I were the temporary head of the Mozilla Foundation, my priority would be to fix the remaining bugs. My second priority would be to integrate SQL Lite into Firefox everywhere it is needed.
The issue with the CPU hogging bug is this: Browsers are our windows on the world; they are VERY important. I don't accept any cynicism about the importance of browsers; it is literally true that they are important to the human efficiency. People like me who often have 10 windows with 30 tabs each really suffer when every window and tab crashes. I'm not the only one.
Opera is stable and also free, but suffers from some bad design decisions. For having a look at Digg and Reddit and other common destinations, I use a separate computer and 10 installations of Opera. I like that Opera can be installed in separate folders that don't interfere with each other.
I was surprised by this in your comment above: "You're probably just trolling,
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Re:Mozilla Foundation Top 20 Excuses
And as I said, the bug has been fixed. Let's see how long it takes for the next updates to roll out.
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It exists !
For a while I've wanted a bittorrent client that was completely invisable to the user.
And it exists. Either...- ...as a small torrent client exe-file that is piggy-backed with the actual torrent file and started if the user has no client. Downhill battle's Blog Torrent has such an exemple, called "Easy Download". People just click on the link and the necessary client is automagically installed.
- ...as a on-the-fly P2P-izer, that just works by pre-pending a prefix to the address (just like the Coral cache). Differ is such a system. People put dijjer.org/get/ to the beginning of links. The website will automatically send an installer if needed. This installers set ups some sort of proxy on the users computer. dijjer.org/get URLs are redirected to this local proxy and the proxy it self is in chagre of geting the file and transparently make it available in HTTP as if downloaded by conventionnal means. The good thing is, once the proxy is installed it works with anything, browser, but also media players with HTTP web-streaming.
- ...last but not least, there are browser plugins. Opera, as far as I've heard comes with one, and I'm sure one can find something on http://addons.mozilla.org/
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Re:wtf? seriously.
Get NoScript for Firefox. It's annoying the first few days as you build a white-list, but now I don't deal with any crap. Google-analytics is forbidden and that page is now ad-free.
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its already fixed in 2.0.0.2 and 1.5.0.10!
according to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3713
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Not such a bad month after all?
While everyone keep saying that Firefox's vulnerability record is getting worse and how that's a result of the growing marketshare, it might be a good idea to take a look at the facts. Admittedly there were a couple of widely publicized vulnerabilities due to Zalewski's decision to go with full disclosure. But it's only publicity. The actual number of vulnerabilities fixed in consecutive versions since 1.0 isn't growing. As a matter of fact, 2.0.0.2 has pretty good record as far as amount and seriousness of discovered holes is considered.
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Re:Compelling reasons to switch to 2?
[...] massive problems with stability in 2.0
I guess it's like with soylent cola -- the taste varies from person to person. I've been enjoying it all the way, through Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox and now 2.0. The only things that caused grief were fucked extensions, not the browser itself.
I'll be switching back to 1.5 as soon as I find a mirror to get the old version from.
there you go. have fun.
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Re:Bottom lineExcept that with the Fox, half of the people looking for and finding bugs are doing so in order to help get them fixed.
(insert devil's advocate)
But for how much longer? the more positive attention fox draws from the unwashed masses, the more negative attention will turn in that direction from malware developers.
If you go from 5% marketshare to 25% marketshare - your percentage of people looking for and finding bugs for good would drop through the floor.
Think of it like this - Maybe one out of every ten of my FFX using friends actually do any app-dev work. Is that accurate? Maybe 10% of all users? If more 'regular people' started using FFX, ditching IE, you think you're still going to have 10%?
Safari and FFx are safe for now, because they're not being targeted by hundreds/thousands/millions. I would contend that 10% is a wildly inaccurate estimate. There are millions of FF users, including my parents, sister and all of my friends/professors here at the University. There might be one person among that group who has contributed code... I doubt 10% of the FF user base has the knowledge or technical ability to patch/hack Mozilla source. Perhaps 10% contribute if you include QA/Bug reports/Documentation etc, but not "App-Dev" work.
Two years ago Firefox Downloads passed 25,000,000. To illustrate my point, lets say FF has 5,000,000 active users world wide (probably an order of magnitude more in reality). Now if 10% of those people hacked out the source and contributed code on a regular basis, Mozilla would have 500,000 patches to deal with. That's just too much to handle as each patch needs to be analyzed, merged and tested independently! If just 1% of the user base contribute code to this project, it will remain a wild success. I don't know of any project that needs over 50,000 developers working on it except maybe the overall Linux initiative. IE surely doesn't have more than a couple of dozen, maybe hundred, developers. What's your point again? -
WARNING: Firefox 1.5 vs. 2.0 :: Old vs. NewNew software and new cars generally have more defects than old software and old cars. The first-year release of a Toyota Camry relies on customers to find and report the defects. The defect information is fed back to the Toyota engineers, and they redesign the defective parts of the Camry. The third-year release of the Camry should be quite reliable. (Toyota has some of the highest rates of recalls in the automotive industry. Toyota typically recalls nearly 10% of its vehicles -- versus "only" 7% for General Motors.)
Software works in the same way.
If you are using your Web browser to do critical jobs like online banking, you should continue to use the latest iteration of Firefox 1.5. The latest iteration is version 1.5.0.10. If you are still using Firefox 1.5, look under the "Help" option to find the option, "Check for Updates", which will enable your to upgrade to 1.5.0.10.
Continue using version 1.5 until 2007 April 24. On that date, Mozilla programmers will cease fine-tuning version 1.5.
After April 24, switch to version 2 of Firefox. Waiting 2 more months before using version 2 will give vital time to Mozilla programmers to fix any critical problems in the new version.
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Re:How is this bad?
Reporting security holes on bugzilla get them marked DUPE/WONTFIX/NOTABUG and ignored for 5+ years. Publishing detailed explanations of the exploits on your blog gets them fixed within a few weeks.
If you know of any such security holes, report them publicly or privately, and you will get a $500 bounty. If reporting them privately doesn't get them fixed, you can always go public later without losing your bounty. If responsible disclosure doesn't get bugs fixed, then I would agree that full disclosure is needed. Go ahead and report these bugs and collect your fame and riches! -
Incentives
Like, say, paying for security bug reports>
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Re:How is this bad?
The only bad thing is that Michael Zalewski is not following Mozilla policy for reporting security bugs. He should first report them to Mozilla privately and give them some time to fix the problems. Instead, he publicly announces the vulnerabilities so the bad guys can exploit them before Mozilla has any chance to fix the problems. In short, Zalewski seems to believe in full disclosure instead of responsible disclosure.
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Re:Long-winded advertisement^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H artic
HTH.
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Firefox isn't officially supported on Vista yet
Firefox isn't officially supported on Vista. No really, it isn't. There are a few things that don't completely work, like setting the default browser etc. See the depandancies of bug 369465 (at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3694
6 5 but they block Slashdot referers) if you don't believe me. Version 2.0.0.2, due in a matter of days, will be the first fully Vista compatible release.