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A patch has just been released:

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

Give Firefox such a big present for their 1.0 release.

not to be a ninny, but when are they going to fix the tabbed focus stealing bug? This is an extermely irritating and confusing bug that affects every user using tabs.

Oops. Well at least I got the bird-part right :/

Linux torrent [mozilla.org]

Win32 torrent

Sorry, no Mac torrent available... but, for completeness, here's a direct link

Thanks to Space (13455), below, for pointing out the linux torrent.

Linux torrent [mozilla.org]

Win32 torrent

Sorry, no Mac torrent available... but, for completeness, here's a direct link

Thanks to Space (13455), below, for pointing out the linux torrent.

Linux torrent [mozilla.org]

Win32 torrent

Sorry, no Mac torrent available... but, for completeness, here's a direct link

Thanks to Space (13455), below, for pointing out the linux torrent.

Yup, our NTLM support is 100% cross-platform. Just remember to enter your domain and username as "domain\username" when prompted or it won't work ;-) Under Windows you can configure Firefox to send your default NTLM credentials automatically. This is not enabled by default (except for proxy server authentication). There is also support for Kerberos via SPNEGO. More info: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/netlib/integrated- auth.html

- Sigh! - Of course, they *had* to change URIs on the day FF hits 1.0... Looks like the "uninstall" information is now to be found on Firefox's Support pages.

This a known problem/bug for many Firefox relases. For some of them this occured more frequently. For some, less. It should be fixed in Firefox CVS, but Firefox team didn't want to include this in 1.0 because they were afraid the fix could break some other sites.

Read the roadmap: http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html It explains why development seems to be focused on Firefox and Thunderbird instead of the Mozilla suite.

ironically it's not a bug in firefox, but a bug in slashdot.

No, it's a bug in Firefox, and even if it wasn't, it wouldn't be ironic.

Security - Nope. I disable everything (including images) and use proxomitron. Nothing can really exploit me except for the really dumb bugs (like the shell: idiocy).

Standards - Firefox is really good here. But it doesn't render everything correctly (i.e. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16740 8). khtml and IE's renderer are the only ones I know that can handle that thing correctly. I don't remember if Opera did or not but I believe it didn't.

Reliability - Firefox crashes for me at least once a week. IE never crashes. It's more stabler over time, which is good.

Comfort - Nope. Again, I've never seen these issues with IE. With Firefox I can't even get quicktime player to stop embedding even though I've tried various things. At least the source is easy to edit so you can get view source to open up in notepad instead of their shitty source viewer.

Slickness - Sorta. The download manager renders piss poorly and does that annoying fade that slows down everything. Fortunately you can edit it so it doesn't suck as much. Their native widget renderer is inconsistent with stuff all over the place. Fortunately it's improving over time but it's kind of quirky as of right now. Find as you type and tabbed browsing are really, really great though.

And the number 1 reason to not use firefox over IE, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36539 still hasn't been fixed. This makes keyboard browsing very unbearable.

Security - Nope. I disable everything (including images) and use proxomitron. Nothing can really exploit me except for the really dumb bugs (like the shell: idiocy).

Standards - Firefox is really good here. But it doesn't render everything correctly (i.e. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16740 8). khtml and IE's renderer are the only ones I know that can handle that thing correctly. I don't remember if Opera did or not but I believe it didn't.

Reliability - Firefox crashes for me at least once a week. IE never crashes. It's more stabler over time, which is good.

Comfort - Nope. Again, I've never seen these issues with IE. With Firefox I can't even get quicktime player to stop embedding even though I've tried various things. At least the source is easy to edit so you can get view source to open up in notepad instead of their shitty source viewer.

Slickness - Sorta. The download manager renders piss poorly and does that annoying fade that slows down everything. Fortunately you can edit it so it doesn't suck as much. Their native widget renderer is inconsistent with stuff all over the place. Fortunately it's improving over time but it's kind of quirky as of right now. Find as you type and tabbed browsing are really, really great though.

And the number 1 reason to not use firefox over IE, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36539 still hasn't been fixed. This makes keyboard browsing very unbearable.

Unfortunatelly, the fix for this bug (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9728 3) didn't make the 1.0 version.

It's been a thorn in my eye for ages. It's the bug that causes div's with an overflow:auto CSS property to not scroll with the keyboard or scrollwheel. As a webdeveloper who's trying to create nice pure-CSS pages it's really quite annoying.

The bug actually is fixed, but the fix wasn't included in the 1.0 release. Too much risk of breaking something in 1.0. You could always download a nightly binary of Mozilla Browser in which the bugfix is included (or at least it was the last time I downloaded a binary)

1. Security
Any really good arguments here?

I'm not sure if you want arguments for or against Firefox, but its security track record is abysmal. There are still UI spoofing security holes relating to XUL, and some of these have been known about for a very long time. It was far worse off than Internet Explorer when it comes to unchecked buffers. Hole-for-hole, it's no better than Internet Explorer.

4. Reliability

They keep breaking themes and extensions every point release. That's unacceptable from an end-user's perspective.

1. Read the "Why Use Firefox?" document
2. Go download Firefox and install it
3. Use Firefox as you default browser for 5 days
4. If, after 5 days, you're still not convinced that Firefox is the best browser there is, uninstall it and switch back

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/live-bookm arks.html

"Headlines from Slashdot (RSS ) and the BBC News (RSS ) displayed in the Bookmarks Sidebar. Clicking on a headline takes you right to the article."

Hm.. has anyone here tried reading /.'s feed using the Firefox rss reader? (the new integrated one, not Sage!)

Well, this is the page you get.

In fact, it's probably best to create a new profile, the one I've lugged around since 0.4 has probably gotten a bit crufty. :)

Hey, is it just me, or are the download links at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ not updated yet? Still pointing to the 1.0PR...

Anyway, it's great that 1.0 is out.

The torrent is available on their ftp server in the same directory. I just downloaded the browser in mere seconds.

Apologies for the repost, but it seems this will be noted over and over again:

If you download one of the nightly builds, you'll see it's actually fixed in the "trunk," but not in the "branch" 1.0 came from, because it apparently caused too many other flaky reactions.

bug 264913
bug 217527

The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.

Apologies for the repost, but it seems this will be noted over and over again:

If you download one of the nightly builds, you'll see it's actually fixed in the "trunk," but not in the "branch" 1.0 came from, because it apparently caused too many other flaky reactions.

bug 264913
bug 217527

The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.

Please people, use the mirrors or the mozilla.org ftp redirect. The plugin finder is suffering from the slashdotting and massive surge in traffic. We don't want to drive people away as the first thing they experience is problems finding/updating their extensions/themes.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel eases/

According to the front page of mozilla.org, Firefox 1.0 was released on the 8th. Lucky for me I got it before the BBC and Slashdot noticed.....

I don't understand why Mozilla is ignoring the suite. It's a great product and is widely used. I personally have been seriously using the suite since about 0.6 and I can't understand why everyone's gone against it. If you have even 256 MB RAM it's fast. Yes it does take longer than IE to load up, but I start up Moz when I start my PC and don't close it until I shut down.

I think it's sad the development of the suite has really slowed now.

I don't understand why Mozilla is ignoring the suite. It's a great product and is widely used. I personally have been seriously using the suite since about 0.6 and I can't understand why everyone's gone against it. If you have even 256 MB RAM it's fast. Yes it does take longer than IE to load up, but I start up Moz when I start my PC and don't close it until I shut down.

I think it's sad the development of the suite has really slowed now.

I don't understand why Mozilla is ignoring the suite. It's a great product and is widely used. I personally have been seriously using the suite since about 0.6 and I can't understand why everyone's gone against it. If you have even 256 MB RAM it's fast. Yes it does take longer than IE to load up, but I start up Moz when I start my PC and don't close it until I shut down.

I think it's sad the development of the suite has really slowed now.

If you download one of the nightly builds, you'll see it's actually fixed in the "trunk," but not in the "branch" 1.0 came from, because it apparently caused too many other flaky reactions.

bug 264913
bug 217527

The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.

If you download one of the nightly builds, you'll see it's actually fixed in the "trunk," but not in the "branch" 1.0 came from, because it apparently caused too many other flaky reactions.

bug 264913
bug 217527

The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.

The Europe site of Mozilla.org seems to work fast:

http://ftp.eu.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/ releases/1.0/

longer if you get the torrent (win32).
This one for Linux.

longer if you get the torrent (win32).
This one for Linux.

Next desire, native SVG support so FireFox wins the enterprise space before Longhorn even gets to market.

We have two years.

FoxyTunes: http://www.iosart.com/foxytunes/firefox/

AdBlock: http://adblock.mozdev.org/

More: http://update.mozilla.org

Linux
firefox-1.0.installer.tar.gz.torrent
firefox-1.0.tar.gz.torrent

Windows
Firefox Setup 1.0.exe.torrent
Firefox 1.0.zip.torrent

Mac
Full download no torrent available

Linux
firefox-1.0.installer.tar.gz.torrent
firefox-1.0.tar.gz.torrent

Windows
Firefox Setup 1.0.exe.torrent
Firefox 1.0.zip.torrent

Mac
Full download no torrent available

Linux
firefox-1.0.installer.tar.gz.torrent
firefox-1.0.tar.gz.torrent

Windows
Firefox Setup 1.0.exe.torrent
Firefox 1.0.zip.torrent

Mac
Full download no torrent available

Linux
firefox-1.0.installer.tar.gz.torrent
firefox-1.0.tar.gz.torrent

Windows
Firefox Setup 1.0.exe.torrent
Firefox 1.0.zip.torrent

Mac
Full download no torrent available

Linux
firefox-1.0.installer.tar.gz.torrent
firefox-1.0.tar.gz.torrent

Windows
Firefox Setup 1.0.exe.torrent
Firefox 1.0.zip.torrent

Mac
Full download no torrent available

ftp://mozilla.isc.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele ases/1.0/
ftp://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fir efox/releases/1.0/
ftp://mozilla.oregonstate.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fire fox/releases/1.0/
Official mozilla.org torrent for Win32:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele ases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.0.exe.tor rent

before it gets hammered too badly:

linux i686 torrent

win32 torrent

(both EN-US).

before it gets hammered too badly:

linux i686 torrent

win32 torrent

(both EN-US).

Mirrors:

http://64.12.168.21/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releas es/1.0
http://207.200.85.49/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/relea ses/1.0/
http://trillian.cc.gatech.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fire fox/releases/
http://mozilla.osuosl.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/ releases/1.0/
http://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fi refox/releases/

Official Torrent:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel eases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.0.exe.to rrent

Slashdot seems slow as ever, Firefox 1.0 is released!! Get it!

Who cares. It's Firefox 1.0 release time.

You're probably talking about this bug (links from Slashdot are disabled, copy url to view). It's fixed, but too late for inclusion in the 1.0 branch. It will be included in Firefox 1.1. (Up to now, more than 30 other bugs are marked as duplicates of this one :-)

This should tell you something - only a license that plans to restrict your rights in some unpleasant way requires a clickthrough. Seriously - I always get the willies from having to clickthrough to accept anything.

That's interesting, because the last time I installed firefox, it required a clickthrough acceptance of the GPL. I didn't get any willies at all.

So now we're using /. as a means for recuiting developers for OS projects?

In that case, might I suggest Mozilla?

*sigh*

You're thoroughly misinformed. Konfabulator is based on Mozilla's SpiderMonkey JavaScript Engine. A stock SM build runs about 424K. Go ahead and double the size if you include Konfabulators hooks into Quartz and other standard Apple API's (a more likely, it's another 100K). Design-wise, Konfabulator uses XML & JS to define layout and functionality of a widget; nothing terrible here as Apple made a similar design decision in Dashboard (their format is slightly different). I don't think several instances of 850K binaries is all that bad. Sure, it could be better but don't you have at least 512MB in your Apple box? I have 576MB in my G3 iBook 500Mhz. The XML for both platforms is relative similar to HTML so you come to a point where the largest difference comes down to widget designers. If a widget designer makes a poor decision in keeping large images around in memory, that's a designer's fault and not Konfabulator's. Also, Konfabulator is available for MacOSX 10.1.x and newer (newer versions only support 10.2.x or newer). Dashboard, well, we have to wait until Tiger goes gold for Dashboard to go gold.

Again, memory bloat of is a function of design decisions, not Konfabulator's design.