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You'd be wrong then. I've seen it as //e.
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_2e_Logo_s1.jpg
http://www.myoldcomputers.com/museum/comp/picture_pages/apple/apple_pics/iielogo.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_IIe

And there's also the IIgs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_IIgs_001.jpg

According to the article you linked, a healthy human can put out a continuous 0.1 HP = 75 W. Interestingly, this would be just about right to power an original IBM PC.

its not really a matter of "cutting it out" it has to do with the fact of how fast the cpu could parse the code. even just going by some googled specs:

http://www.myoldcomputers.com/museum/comp/c64.htm
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8802

The wii is going to be 729 times as fast, cpu wise, and the bus on it is goning to be at least 243 times faster, and 8 times as wide.
Even if they dont optomise the emulator, the wii will be able to load the game faster than the C64 could ever dream. even if you use the bus speed for an ugly example ie 2 minute load time (120 seconds) / 243(wii bus)= 0.49387 seconds to pass the same amount of info, while the CPU sits there twiddling its thumbs even running at this decreased rate. now, granted, an emulator is not always as good as the real hardware its emulating, but even if you assume a 50% efficency rate, HOLY CRAP LOOK AT THAT, its still only 1 second to load. as for the use of "disk swapping" the emulator could just be set up to do it when the game tries to promt for the second disk, like placing the files for multiple cds in a video game install (like UT2004 for example) onto a DVD, I have done this several times with my games to make installing easier, not to mention faster.

This is more for the sibling posters - the parent poster `gets it`.

I've got extra HDMI and DVIHDMI adapters.
I really don't want any more!

The irony is:
I ordered my HDMI cable from one of those "direct cable" sites online (works great). This was for a Sceptre LCD TV ordered online from Costco. The online info clearly listed a bunch of other cables and parts, but did -not- mention HDMI, so I thought I needed one.

Opened up the TV crate, and there was the HDMI cable.

Then the Comcast guy shows up to hookup the HD DVR... another set of HDMI cables.

Bottom line: all the babies crying there's no HDMI cable, don't have HDTV to begin with. Sony is promising a LOT for the PS3... they've overpromised in fact, and there's no going back on the big specs. Sony made a big gamble on the BlueRay player, which to me is more significant than the Cell CPU. EVERY PS3 is going to have a BlueRay drive, so the installed base will be 100% unlike the X-Box360, which will have an "add on" HD-DVD drive.

No one has EVER successfully "added" formats to a gaming console:
For the Atari VCS, failed (Spectra SuperCharger: http://members.cox.net/rcolbert/schookup.htm)
Coleco failed (Coleco Adam expansion kit: http://www.myoldcomputers.com/museum/comp/adam.htm )
Sega failed (Genesis Megadrive: http://cgfm2.emuviews.com/gen.php)

To this day, I bet most Windows games ship on CD not DVD (correct me if I am wrong, but if this has changed it is very recent and still no clear market format)

50GB is an amazing platform to write games, and even though the first generation of games will not take advantage of it, eventually they will. This is true even if the extra "bloat" doesn't add to gameplay - not right away anyways. I used to remember all the C64 games were written for 64K, and all the ATARI XL/XE games were written for 48K... even during the twilight of the 8-bit platform.

As far as I'm concerned, game systems should ship with NO AV cable since whatever they include is not going to satisfy everyone:
A lot of people wil be looking for adapter cables to operate the nexgen game systems with:
DVI (plenty of early HD sets have this instead of HDMI)
VGA (ditto)
component
S-Video

I have a draw full of old composite cables, and a ton more in the garage.

The point is, people never upgrade game platforms. Never. It's a stretch I know to factor HDMI cables in here, but every nickel you can save somewhere just makes the rest of the platform more viable. (I understand the Blue-Ray gamble, but the Cell-processor gamble is just stupid "not invented here". I would have chopped the Cell processor - too big of a question mark. What's to be gained??).

Anyways - anyone still not believing this "excusing" of the HDMI cable, please take an moment to window-shop a brand-new car. Then you'll really understand what it means to have to "option" things out.

I never managed to own any of the common machines, until I got a PC. I think it has had a serious impact on my personality...

1. Philips G7000 (Magnavox)
This was actually a game console, but it had a (horrible) membrane keyboard, and there was a programming cartridge! Some variant of Intel 8048 assembler was my first attempt at programming. It didn't go so well, I was nine.
http://www.sothius.com/hypertxt/welcome.html?g7000 .html

2. ZX81
My first "real" computer. 1KB of memory. I had no tape recorder, so if I wanted to run a program, I had to type it in first... Programming Sinclair computers was odd, since you every command was printed on a button, and pressing that one button entered the whole command.
http://www.honneamise.u-net.com/zx81/

3. TI 99/4A
Okay, if you're American, this is not a very odd home computer. But here in Europe it was rare. Everyone had a Commodore 64 or a Sinclair Spectrum. Except me. I got beat up a lot by the other nerds for that. Well, they can blow themselves, my computer was 16 bit! (It was the first 16b personal computer.) Coming from the ZX81, I was blown away by its awesome color graphics (16 colors!) and huge memory (16KB). With the Extended Basic cartridge, sprites and sound could be programmed using high-level Basic commands, which rocked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-99/4A

4. Commodore plus/4
Again I manage to find the odd duck. The +4 was big brother to the Commodore 16, and descendant of the C64. "Plus/4" referred to four built-in office applications. They of course sucked frozen goats through a straw. What was really cool though was that it had a built-in machine code monitor with a mini-assembler/disassembler. I actually learned some 6510 assembler this time around. And I knew I had entered the Space Age when I saw the +4's 128 colors(!!). It also had a better Basic than the C64, you could program graphics using what we called "Logo" commands, or "turtle graphics," basically vector drawing commands.
http://www.myoldcomputers.com/museum/comp/plus4.ht m

5. Ericsson PC
My first PC was an Ericsson 286 with a 9-pin printer in matching color. Since then I have owned and built countless PCs.

6. DECpc AXP/150
I still have the Jensen with some old Red Hat version on it. This was the first Alpha PC, and it was 64 bit even back then. Pretty cool stuff.
http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/alf/axp150/

7. Tandem Integrity s/2
This is the undisputed king of the computers I have owned. It cost around $250,000 when it was new in '91. Yes, that's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It consisted of a system cabinet and a disk cabinet (you could add up to four) with 6 1GB SCSI-2 disks. Every piece of hardware in it was doubled (except the CPU board which was tripled, one running checksums on the other two), including the fans and built-in battery backup. It was completely modular and every module could be changed while the machine was running (including CPU modules). It had a console with "smooth scrolling." It ran Tandem's Nonstop UX. It ran for four years without reboot before I got it from an insurance company. What can I tell you? It's cooler than any computer you've had. ;-)
http://www.speed-pac.com/i_shook/comp.jpg

Are you sure?

What appleLaserWriter failed to tell you is that his REAL identity is appleImageWriterII and he comes complete with a Mac SE with MacOS, erm, Finder 6.0.8.

(Source for 16" x 8").

McIntosh
Red Delicious
Macintosh

You are now informed.

This model just happened to be the most portable of the Trash-80 line. I ran into a TRS-80 4P when I was in high school. Yes, this is the TRS-80 model 4 - portable. 30 pound behemoth that needed to be plugged into the wall. Ok, it wasn't very portable, but on the bottom of the machine, it claimed to be portable! C'mon, it had a handle!

Everything old is new again!

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