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genital mutilation a possible factor
I can't help but wonder if some of the depression could be related to genital mutilation which is rampant in the United States. Although female minors have had Federal protection from genital mutilation since 1997, the latest figures from the CDC suggest that genital mutilation is inflicted on over three thousand male and intersex children each day. This impacts over one million children per year.
The US is one of the few Western countries where genital mutilation is so widespread. With the advent of the Internet, it has become much easier over the last couple decades for survivors to learn about all that was lost.
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I call bullshit...
As a man that suffers from sever penile insensitivity, presumably from my circumcision (which became infected due to poor practices at the hospital), I believe it is a useless, barbaric practice, almost akin to clitordectomies. Clitordectomies, by the way, are also known as female circumcisions. Coincidence?
If you want some of the truth about what a circumcision actually does I suggest reading the following:
http://www.norm.org/
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Re:Not religious freedom, but....
Note, however, that male circumcision (no significant long-term loss of function) is not in the same world as female "circumcision", which causes a permanent loss of function.
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Re:Tom Cruise Missile
And perhaps it is time for you to define the "function" of the foreskin, if you're going to keep referring to it that way. What function am I missing? What can I not do, as a circumsized male?
Spell circumcised properly? *duck* Enjoy sex the way that nature intended? This this website has a list of some of the functionality that is typically lost. Even if you dispute that functionality exists I could make another compelling case for not slicing off the foreskin: It remains available for transplants at a later date to other parts of the body. Back when I worked in heavy industry a co-worker suffered chemical burns to a large part of his face when a parts cleaning machine blew up. They actually were able to repair his eyelids by transplanting part of his foreskin. Because it was his own tissue he doesn't have to take anti-rejection drugs and doesn't have a weakened immune system as a result.
Well, again - you're making the claim, I'm not. I addressed it as a claim made by the anti-circumcision block. So I ask you again: What "function" am I missing? I'm agreeably sensitive; I'm fertile; I'm happy; I'm clean; I'm disease-free; I'm at lower risk than you are for a number of disagreeable and in some cases life-threatening conditions; so what is my alleged "problem", according to you?
If you are happy then that's all that matters. My whole point all along has been that there is evidence that suggests the foreskin is not just an extra piece of skin that does nothing. Why should you make that decision for your newborn son? The alleged benefits of circumcision do not justify that in my mind. If he turns 18 and thinks those benefits are worth undergoing the procedure then all the power to him. You can't make the claim that you aren't missing anything because you wouldn't know if you were.
you, for instance, have elected to remain at higher risk, and to expose your partners to higher risk, and this indicates to me that it would have been better to get it done as an infant - you would not now have the option of raising the risk floor for others, regardless of what you might prefer for yourself. In the meantime, educating people that uncircumcised males present higher risk to them as sexual partners is important.
Really? So in your world I made the "wrong" decision? In your world the decision should have been taken out of my hands? You do realize that very few men in Europe are cut and that there isn't a huge difference in infection rates between Europe and the US? Or how about Japan where the majority is not cut and STD rates are less then half of what they are in Europe and the US? Might it have something to do with safe sex practices (condoms are the most popular form of birth control in Japan)? I could also throw out the fact that Israel (>90% cut) has the same HIV infection rate as Norway (
You don't wait until they can have discussion with you about being vaccinated for some horrible disease, you simply get it done. Same thing with circumcision. You don't disadvantage your kid by raising their chances to contract something horrible like penile cancer because it's politically correct to do so; you man up and do the right thing.
I love how you are comparing vaccines to circumcision. Vaccines don't remove part of your body. "Man up and do the right thing"? It sounds to me like the right thing is what you think it is and that you don't have any room to consider that other people may feel differently about it then you do.
Look. Your position here isn't just wrong, it is ridiculous. I have said, multiple times, that I am not against female circumcision. Clitoridectomy is not in the faintest way equivalant to circumcision, and I am against the equivalant of clitoridectomy in males. Until you can discriminate between these two radically different procedures, and address them with arguments appropriate to each, you're just raving. Go look
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Re:In a word...
Improve your sex life - undo your circumcision
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My mouse hovered over the link for a second, but I couldn't click on it, just thinking about what horrors lie at the other end of that link brings tears to my eyes and cold shivers run up and down my spine. -
Re:YOU GODDAMNED MOTHERFUCKING BITCHASS!!!!
GOD IN FUCKING HELL I"VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH BULLSHIT!!! what's the size of your balls got to do with anythigng, or your HISPANICNESS. I AINT NO FUCKING COW. wrong, you asshat. AND NOT I AM NOT A BODY BUILDER. i LIFT, i don't body build like some fag. and i use KETTLEBELLS. I bet if i saw you in the gym you'd be jacking off on those cybex gaymachines. i don't care how many woman you fuck, they're all unsatisfied because you have a GENITALLY MUTILATED, SENSORY RIDDEN, KERATINZED DONG GO VISIT THAT SITE YOU PIECE OF SLICED HISPANIC SHIT.
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Re:Medical benefits of circumcision
It is never done for hygine, but mearly to elimate sexual pleasure.
Actually, the reasons for male circumcision are very similar. Did you know that the typical American circumcision removes up to 80% of the skin from the penis, containing unnumerable nerve endings? That the glans is a mucus membrane (like the tongue), and constant exposure results in drying and eventual loss of sensation? I won't go on, it's not my intent to make you feel guilty. But you should know the truth.
Please read up at NOCIRC and NORM and learn what the American medical profession wants to keep quiet.
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I am sorry that you someone sexually mutilated you
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I am sorry that you someone sexually mutilated you