Domain: odem.org
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Re:I dunno
As a german, I like to point out that the nazis got the power largely by being voted for! So... it's not like the germans were overrun by a hostile government - the people here voted for the nazi idiots!
I think that the idea of freedom of speech in a very basic way like it is written in the U.S. constitution is actually one of the few things which should be imported to Europe.
The stupid german prohibition on nazi propaganda is already doing a lot of harm by being supported by overzealous politicians (according to the other post, more people should trust goverments to do the right thing - how can you think like this with the current political climate?!):
Some ISPs in Dusseldorf were (are?) required to ban access to U.S. nazi pages. I'm sorry, but why do I need such a nanny state which prescribes what ideas (no matter how stupid and disgusting) I am allowed to see? What is so wrong being curious about the ideology of the neo nazis? If you want to fight them, how do you do that without knowing how they think??
Do not even get me started on how those and other politicians try to suppress and censor even basic knowledge here in germany.
And then there are the large religious pressure groups trying to implement (or extend already existing) 'blasphemy' laws (for example to outlaw mohammed cartoons).
No, I like the idea of freedom of speech and more generally the principle of trying to extend the idea 'do not mess with other's private issues' as far as possible.
That said, I still think that youtube as a private company has every right to constrain the set of videos they host.
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Re:Smart. Scary.
Next they modify the data you receive to influence your opinion.
You mean like insert_coin? They run a proxy on proxy.odem.org:7007 which makes reading Slashdot quite an interesting experience. -
Real-world example
Some students at a German college made a web proxy experiment (page in German, feel free to use Babelfish). You have to love the s/Ministerprasident/Obersturmbahnfuhrer/ part...
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Censorship and manipulation experiment
A part of the degree dissertation of mine and a friend was a censorship experiment. For this experiment we coded a proxy server, which is able to make a lot of complex manipulations, but the most effective is a simple word changer
;-) Change your proxy to: proxy.odem.org:7007 and look at the live log- Short Introduction
- Screenshots
- Live Log of the manipulations(except internal redirections, hrmpf)
- English description of filter
- Full documentation and theoretical stuff (in german)
- Anti censorship network
- Sign against censorship
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Censorship and manipulation experiment
A part of the degree dissertation of mine and a friend was a censorship experiment. For this experiment we coded a proxy server, which is able to make a lot of complex manipulations, but the most effective is a simple word changer
;-) Change your proxy to: proxy.odem.org:7007 and look at the live log- Short Introduction
- Screenshots
- Live Log of the manipulations(except internal redirections, hrmpf)
- English description of filter
- Full documentation and theoretical stuff (in german)
- Anti censorship network
- Sign against censorship
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Censorship and manipulation experiment
A part of the degree dissertation of mine and a friend was a censorship experiment. For this experiment we coded a proxy server, which is able to make a lot of complex manipulations, but the most effective is a simple word changer
;-) Change your proxy to: proxy.odem.org:7007 and look at the live log- Short Introduction
- Screenshots
- Live Log of the manipulations(except internal redirections, hrmpf)
- English description of filter
- Full documentation and theoretical stuff (in german)
- Anti censorship network
- Sign against censorship
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Censorship and manipulation experiment
A part of the degree dissertation of mine and a friend was a censorship experiment. For this experiment we coded a proxy server, which is able to make a lot of complex manipulations, but the most effective is a simple word changer
;-) Change your proxy to: proxy.odem.org:7007 and look at the live log- Short Introduction
- Screenshots
- Live Log of the manipulations(except internal redirections, hrmpf)
- English description of filter
- Full documentation and theoretical stuff (in german)
- Anti censorship network
- Sign against censorship
-
Censorship and manipulation experiment
A part of the degree dissertation of mine and a friend was a censorship experiment. For this experiment we coded a proxy server, which is able to make a lot of complex manipulations, but the most effective is a simple word changer
;-) Change your proxy to: proxy.odem.org:7007 and look at the live log- Short Introduction
- Screenshots
- Live Log of the manipulations(except internal redirections, hrmpf)
- English description of filter
- Full documentation and theoretical stuff (in german)
- Anti censorship network
- Sign against censorship
-
Censorship and manipulation experiment
A part of the degree dissertation of mine and a friend was a censorship experiment. For this experiment we coded a proxy server, which is able to make a lot of complex manipulations, but the most effective is a simple word changer
;-) Change your proxy to: proxy.odem.org:7007 and look at the live log- Short Introduction
- Screenshots
- Live Log of the manipulations(except internal redirections, hrmpf)
- English description of filter
- Full documentation and theoretical stuff (in german)
- Anti censorship network
- Sign against censorship
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Censorship and manipulation experiment
A part of the degree dissertation of mine and a friend was a censorship experiment. For this experiment we coded a proxy server, which is able to make a lot of complex manipulations, but the most effective is a simple word changer
;-) Change your proxy to: proxy.odem.org:7007 and look at the live log- Short Introduction
- Screenshots
- Live Log of the manipulations(except internal redirections, hrmpf)
- English description of filter
- Full documentation and theoretical stuff (in german)
- Anti censorship network
- Sign against censorship
-
Censorship and manipulation experiment
A part of the degree dissertation of mine and a friend was a censorship experiment. For this experiment we coded a proxy server, which is able to make a lot of complex manipulations, but the most effective is a simple word changer
;-) Change your proxy to: proxy.odem.org:7007 and look at the live log- Short Introduction
- Screenshots
- Live Log of the manipulations(except internal redirections, hrmpf)
- English description of filter
- Full documentation and theoretical stuff (in german)
- Anti censorship network
- Sign against censorship
-
Censorship and manipulation experiment
A part of the degree dissertation of mine and a friend was a censorship experiment. For this experiment we coded a proxy server, which is able to make a lot of complex manipulations, but the most effective is a simple word changer
;-) Change your proxy to: proxy.odem.org:7007 and look at the live log- Short Introduction
- Screenshots
- Live Log of the manipulations(except internal redirections, hrmpf)
- English description of filter
- Full documentation and theoretical stuff (in german)
- Anti censorship network
- Sign against censorship
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Some Sorces, Material ...You can read more about WSIS here:
- civil society news center
- Communications Rights in the Information Society
- german civil society
- Press Release to Free Software from German Civil Society (german only, sorry).
- UNO Documents: Draft Declaration (in english, arabic, russion, chinese, spanish, french...)
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Re:What's all this then?
Oh, Anonymous Coward, you must be joking?
;-)
The WDR is the organisation, who deleted a critical online article after pressure from the master of censorship.
For more infos about this see ÂEine Zensur findet doch stattÂ. -
There IS action against this
There is a lot of action against this, but most of it is, of course, in german
... :)
At ODEM.org (english) we have a lot of material and infos and so on about this -- but the most are in german.
We have an online petition (Link to the english version) with more then 17000 signers, including the "internet experts" of the big political parties, the "reporters without frontier", Ian Clarke, Richard Stallman and others. You are invited to sign also ... ;-)
But, yes: in the public outside of the net community you hear very rarely about this. The filtering/blocking is -- if you only have a fast look on it -- against nazis! And in germeny, nearly *everyone* is against nazis.
And this is the danger: At first, they choose some Nazis. But later, there will be thousands of web sites blocked, see some quotes and infos, but the text and MP3s/OGGs are only in german. -
There IS action against this
There is a lot of action against this, but most of it is, of course, in german
... :)
At ODEM.org (english) we have a lot of material and infos and so on about this -- but the most are in german.
We have an online petition (Link to the english version) with more then 17000 signers, including the "internet experts" of the big political parties, the "reporters without frontier", Ian Clarke, Richard Stallman and others. You are invited to sign also ... ;-)
But, yes: in the public outside of the net community you hear very rarely about this. The filtering/blocking is -- if you only have a fast look on it -- against nazis! And in germeny, nearly *everyone* is against nazis.
And this is the danger: At first, they choose some Nazis. But later, there will be thousands of web sites blocked, see some quotes and infos, but the text and MP3s/OGGs are only in german. -
There IS action against this
There is a lot of action against this, but most of it is, of course, in german
... :)
At ODEM.org (english) we have a lot of material and infos and so on about this -- but the most are in german.
We have an online petition (Link to the english version) with more then 17000 signers, including the "internet experts" of the big political parties, the "reporters without frontier", Ian Clarke, Richard Stallman and others. You are invited to sign also ... ;-)
But, yes: in the public outside of the net community you hear very rarely about this. The filtering/blocking is -- if you only have a fast look on it -- against nazis! And in germeny, nearly *everyone* is against nazis.
And this is the danger: At first, they choose some Nazis. But later, there will be thousands of web sites blocked, see some quotes and infos, but the text and MP3s/OGGs are only in german. -
There IS action against this
There is a lot of action against this, but most of it is, of course, in german
... :)
At ODEM.org (english) we have a lot of material and infos and so on about this -- but the most are in german.
We have an online petition (Link to the english version) with more then 17000 signers, including the "internet experts" of the big political parties, the "reporters without frontier", Ian Clarke, Richard Stallman and others. You are invited to sign also ... ;-)
But, yes: in the public outside of the net community you hear very rarely about this. The filtering/blocking is -- if you only have a fast look on it -- against nazis! And in germeny, nearly *everyone* is against nazis.
And this is the danger: At first, they choose some Nazis. But later, there will be thousands of web sites blocked, see some quotes and infos, but the text and MP3s/OGGs are only in german. -
There IS action against this
There is a lot of action against this, but most of it is, of course, in german
... :)
At ODEM.org (english) we have a lot of material and infos and so on about this -- but the most are in german.
We have an online petition (Link to the english version) with more then 17000 signers, including the "internet experts" of the big political parties, the "reporters without frontier", Ian Clarke, Richard Stallman and others. You are invited to sign also ... ;-)
But, yes: in the public outside of the net community you hear very rarely about this. The filtering/blocking is -- if you only have a fast look on it -- against nazis! And in germeny, nearly *everyone* is against nazis.
And this is the danger: At first, they choose some Nazis. But later, there will be thousands of web sites blocked, see some quotes and infos, but the text and MP3s/OGGs are only in german. -
Online Petition, more material, and experiment
Hi,
at ODEM.org we provide a lot of stuff to this topic:- an online petition against the planed "filter system" (don't believe that it will stop at germany's borders, after really installed) and other, provider site censorship stuff.
- An introduction to internet censorship in germany
- An internet censorship experiment
- And a complete tour through the ODEM.org projects
- If you can read german, there is also a lot of material, including MP3s/OGGs of Jürgen Büssow, the guy who wants the filter.
- At last: the tour in german
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Online Petition, more material, and experiment
Hi,
at ODEM.org we provide a lot of stuff to this topic:- an online petition against the planed "filter system" (don't believe that it will stop at germany's borders, after really installed) and other, provider site censorship stuff.
- An introduction to internet censorship in germany
- An internet censorship experiment
- And a complete tour through the ODEM.org projects
- If you can read german, there is also a lot of material, including MP3s/OGGs of Jürgen Büssow, the guy who wants the filter.
- At last: the tour in german
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Online Petition, more material, and experiment
Hi,
at ODEM.org we provide a lot of stuff to this topic:- an online petition against the planed "filter system" (don't believe that it will stop at germany's borders, after really installed) and other, provider site censorship stuff.
- An introduction to internet censorship in germany
- An internet censorship experiment
- And a complete tour through the ODEM.org projects
- If you can read german, there is also a lot of material, including MP3s/OGGs of Jürgen Büssow, the guy who wants the filter.
- At last: the tour in german
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Online Petition, more material, and experiment
Hi,
at ODEM.org we provide a lot of stuff to this topic:- an online petition against the planed "filter system" (don't believe that it will stop at germany's borders, after really installed) and other, provider site censorship stuff.
- An introduction to internet censorship in germany
- An internet censorship experiment
- And a complete tour through the ODEM.org projects
- If you can read german, there is also a lot of material, including MP3s/OGGs of Jürgen Büssow, the guy who wants the filter.
- At last: the tour in german
-
Online Petition, more material, and experiment
Hi,
at ODEM.org we provide a lot of stuff to this topic:- an online petition against the planed "filter system" (don't believe that it will stop at germany's borders, after really installed) and other, provider site censorship stuff.
- An introduction to internet censorship in germany
- An internet censorship experiment
- And a complete tour through the ODEM.org projects
- If you can read german, there is also a lot of material, including MP3s/OGGs of Jürgen Büssow, the guy who wants the filter.
- At last: the tour in german
-
Online Petition, more material, and experiment
Hi,
at ODEM.org we provide a lot of stuff to this topic:- an online petition against the planed "filter system" (don't believe that it will stop at germany's borders, after really installed) and other, provider site censorship stuff.
- An introduction to internet censorship in germany
- An internet censorship experiment
- And a complete tour through the ODEM.org projects
- If you can read german, there is also a lot of material, including MP3s/OGGs of Jürgen Büssow, the guy who wants the filter.
- At last: the tour in german
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Online Petition, more material, and experiment
Hi,
at ODEM.org we provide a lot of stuff to this topic:- an online petition against the planed "filter system" (don't believe that it will stop at germany's borders, after really installed) and other, provider site censorship stuff.
- An introduction to internet censorship in germany
- An internet censorship experiment
- And a complete tour through the ODEM.org projects
- If you can read german, there is also a lot of material, including MP3s/OGGs of Jürgen Büssow, the guy who wants the filter.
- At last: the tour in german
-
Online Petition, more material, and experiment
Hi,
at ODEM.org we provide a lot of stuff to this topic:- an online petition against the planed "filter system" (don't believe that it will stop at germany's borders, after really installed) and other, provider site censorship stuff.
- An introduction to internet censorship in germany
- An internet censorship experiment
- And a complete tour through the ODEM.org projects
- If you can read german, there is also a lot of material, including MP3s/OGGs of Jürgen Büssow, the guy who wants the filter.
- At last: the tour in german
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What's all this then?This whole discussion has me scratching my head. I can't find any reference to this alleged DNS-censorship that isn't online gossip. Nothing on an actual news site. I've found reports that German companies want to implement this kind of censorship and of course all these claims that they've already done it. But I just don't see it. Why isn't the German equivalent of the ACLU raising a stink? Why is there no actual news?
Perhaps somebody who actually understands how DNS works could convince me this isn't just a black-helicopter urban legend. Until then, I'm inclined to put this with that guy that "proved" that whitehouse.gov was registered in the U.K.!
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Toyota supports terrorists -- lets bomb Japan!
Uh, did you seen the new Toyota pick ups in Iraq?
They support terrorists!Perhaps the US should make a new example in Hiroshima?
Ciao
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AlvarNews on CNN: Suicide pie kills USSR nurses
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Re:Google is a public tool
which are banned by German Law
The situation in Germany is this: Stupid-ass politicians proudly say of themselves that they did something against Neo-Nazis by denying access to information located in another country, falling under completely different laws. The German public should think: Wow, no Nazis anymore, thanks Mr Büssow! In fact the Nazis are still around and the Germans should be the only ones not to know about it. That's sick.
Go to odem.org for more info about this (German language). -
They want to block the radikal pages at the provid
Hi,
today I had a phone talk with Christian Schreyer, the legal advisor of Deutsche Bahn.
Deutsche Bahn will sue all, who create a mirror of this pages; if it's not possible sue them (e.g. free speech laws in the US or whatelse), they want to block the pages at the german access providers: There is a filter system in development, which will be able to block all unwanted URLs.
The stalking-horse to establish these filter system (called "Filterpilot"), which uses a combination of routing and transparent proxying, are nazi websites. Denying holocaust is illegal in germany and there is a wide front against nazis; they use this to establish filterpilot at all border gateways.
The district government of Düsseldorf, which is the outrider in the case of net censorship in germany, sais: "If we want to prohibit milk drinking, we have first test this with two milk bottles."
It is naive to think, that "Filterpilot" will remain in Germany. It's a commercial development and not only in germany there are lot if interested organisations in such a filter: remember MPAA, IPFI, Scientology, ...
At ODEM we have a petition against provider side filter systems. Please support us and sign the Declaration for freedom of information in the internet.
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They want to block the radikal pages at the provid
Hi,
today I had a phone talk with Christian Schreyer, the legal advisor of Deutsche Bahn.
Deutsche Bahn will sue all, who create a mirror of this pages; if it's not possible sue them (e.g. free speech laws in the US or whatelse), they want to block the pages at the german access providers: There is a filter system in development, which will be able to block all unwanted URLs.
The stalking-horse to establish these filter system (called "Filterpilot"), which uses a combination of routing and transparent proxying, are nazi websites. Denying holocaust is illegal in germany and there is a wide front against nazis; they use this to establish filterpilot at all border gateways.
The district government of Düsseldorf, which is the outrider in the case of net censorship in germany, sais: "If we want to prohibit milk drinking, we have first test this with two milk bottles."
It is naive to think, that "Filterpilot" will remain in Germany. It's a commercial development and not only in germany there are lot if interested organisations in such a filter: remember MPAA, IPFI, Scientology, ...
At ODEM we have a petition against provider side filter systems. Please support us and sign the Declaration for freedom of information in the internet.
-
They want to block the radikal pages at the provid
Hi,
today I had a phone talk with Christian Schreyer, the legal advisor of Deutsche Bahn.
Deutsche Bahn will sue all, who create a mirror of this pages; if it's not possible sue them (e.g. free speech laws in the US or whatelse), they want to block the pages at the german access providers: There is a filter system in development, which will be able to block all unwanted URLs.
The stalking-horse to establish these filter system (called "Filterpilot"), which uses a combination of routing and transparent proxying, are nazi websites. Denying holocaust is illegal in germany and there is a wide front against nazis; they use this to establish filterpilot at all border gateways.
The district government of Düsseldorf, which is the outrider in the case of net censorship in germany, sais: "If we want to prohibit milk drinking, we have first test this with two milk bottles."
It is naive to think, that "Filterpilot" will remain in Germany. It's a commercial development and not only in germany there are lot if interested organisations in such a filter: remember MPAA, IPFI, Scientology, ...
At ODEM we have a petition against provider side filter systems. Please support us and sign the Declaration for freedom of information in the internet.
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They want to block the radikal pages at the provid
Hi,
today I had a phone talk with Christian Schreyer, the legal advisor of Deutsche Bahn.
Deutsche Bahn will sue all, who create a mirror of this pages; if it's not possible sue them (e.g. free speech laws in the US or whatelse), they want to block the pages at the german access providers: There is a filter system in development, which will be able to block all unwanted URLs.
The stalking-horse to establish these filter system (called "Filterpilot"), which uses a combination of routing and transparent proxying, are nazi websites. Denying holocaust is illegal in germany and there is a wide front against nazis; they use this to establish filterpilot at all border gateways.
The district government of Düsseldorf, which is the outrider in the case of net censorship in germany, sais: "If we want to prohibit milk drinking, we have first test this with two milk bottles."
It is naive to think, that "Filterpilot" will remain in Germany. It's a commercial development and not only in germany there are lot if interested organisations in such a filter: remember MPAA, IPFI, Scientology, ...
At ODEM we have a petition against provider side filter systems. Please support us and sign the Declaration for freedom of information in the internet.