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History of Henry VI, Part II Act II, Scene 1

Duke of Gloucester. How long hast thou been blind?

Simpcox. Born so, master.

Duke of Gloucester. What, and wouldst climb a tree?

Simpcox. But that in all my life, when I was a youth.

Simpcox's Wife. Too true; and bought his climbing very dear.

Duke of Gloucester. Mass, thou lovedst plums well, that wouldst venture so.

Simpcox. Alas, good master, my wife desired some damsons, And made me climb, with danger of my life.

Duke of Gloucester. A subtle knave! but yet it shall not serve. Let me see thine eyes: wink now: now open them: In my opinion yet thou seest not well.

Simpcox. Yes, master, clear as day, I thank God and Saint Alban.

Duke of Gloucester. Say'st thou me so? What colour is this cloak of?

Simpcox. Red, master; red as blood.

Duke of Gloucester. Why, that's well said. What colour is my gown of?

Simpcox. Black, forsooth: coal-black as jet.

Henry VI. Why, then, thou know'st what colour jet is of?

Earl of Suffolk. And yet, I think, jet did he never see.

Duke of Gloucester. But cloaks and gowns, before this day, a many.

Simpcox's Wife. Never, before this day, in all his life.

Duke of Gloucester. Tell me, sirrah, what's my name?

Simpcox. Alas, master, I know not.

Duke of Gloucester. What's his name?

Simpcox. I know not.

Duke of Gloucester. Nor his?

Simpcox. No, indeed, master.

Duke of Gloucester. What's thine own name?

Simpcox. Saunder Simpcox, an if it please you, master.

Duke of Gloucester. Then, Saunder, sit there, the lyingest knave in Christendom. If thou hadst been born blind, thou mightest as well have known all our names as thus to name the several colours we do wear. Sight may distinguish of colours, but suddenly to nominate them all, it is impossible. My lords, Saint Alban here hath done a miracle; and would ye not think his cunning to be great, that could restore this cripple to his legs again?

Instead of just providing the texts, why doesn't Yahoo or Google go in-depth with a collection of texts, and provide insights on them? Open Source Shakespeare is an example of what I mean. There's an automatically-generated concordance, you can look at all of a character's lines at once, and see statistics about the plays, etc. Those are actual research tools. Being able to search a text is useful, but you could do that in 1975. I would be more impressed if these big search companies figured out how to do something more useful.

Instead of just providing the texts, why doesn't Yahoo or Google go in-depth with a collection of texts, and provide insights on them? Open Source Shakespeare is an example of what I mean. There's an automatically-generated concordance, you can look at all of a character's lines at once, and see statistics about the plays, etc. Those are actual research tools. Being able to search a text is useful, but you could do that in 1975. I would be more impressed if these big search companies figured out how to do something more useful.

Instead of just providing the texts, why doesn't Yahoo or Google go in-depth with a collection of texts, and provide insights on them? Open Source Shakespeare is an example of what I mean. There's an automatically-generated concordance, you can look at all of a character's lines at once, and see statistics about the plays, etc. Those are actual research tools. Being able to search a text is useful, but you could do that in 1975. I would be more impressed if these big search companies figured out how to do something more useful.

Instead of just providing the texts, why doesn't Yahoo or Google go in-depth with a collection of texts, and provide insights on them? Open Source Shakespeare is an example of what I mean. There's an automatically-generated concordance, you can look at all of a character's lines at once, and see statistics about the plays, etc. Those are actual research tools. Being able to search a text is useful, but you could do that in 1975. I would be more impressed if these big search companies figured out how to do something more useful.

Ah, I see; sorry I misunderstood.

Remember, though, that the very headline of the story is "Unifying Linux Package Management." I was working on the assumption that it was already decided that unifying package management was a good thing, and was suggesting a different [and better, IMHO] way of reaching that goal than the method in the article.

In reality, I don't think getting rid of the different package management programs is a good thing at all. Instead, I would like to see them made more compatible with each other. They should work towards better conformance to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, unify package formats*, be "pluggable" (i.e., able to be substituted for each other without screwing up the system), etc.

*to the extent they can be unified, at least -- an .ebuild is very different from a .deb, but a .deb is relatively similar to an .rpm.

I challenge you to create a definition that all of the developers the developers and systems administrators will agree is the "best".

I'll take a shot at that. How about "the best package management system is the one that is the most versatile and easy to use, and least likely to cause dependency hell?"

By the way, don't call me zealot-boy! My opinions are temperate, considered, and intellectual! : P

...Speaking of which, my sig actually comes from here (look at the paragraph titled "database").

Database: Originally it was Microsoft Access, but switched to mySQL because it's cheaper to find a Web host that supports mySQL. Plus, in the management's temperate, considered, intellectual opinion, Microsoft sucks and we hate them.

Bah. Posting HTML is so 1996. You can do so much more with these texts. One example is Open Source Shakespeare, which takes all of Shakespeare's texts, indexes them, presents them in an attractive manner, creates a concordance, provides a full-text search engine, organizes the lines by character, etc.

All of the texts are open source, and you can download the database and source code from the site, too. Check it out.