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I'm that Social Justice Warrior that some folks object to. What I have learned from this discussion is that if you really want to piss off the folks who don't like SJWs, having an affirmative action program is very highly effective. And you can start for less than $10,000 with this group: outreachy.org. Or if you don't have the cash, they can get it elsewhere and put a deserving person from a disadvantaged group (like a woman) in your organization for a 3-month internship. I am definitely going to make use of that knowledge!

Stop lying, Bruce.

Nope. It's not even employment. There's a travel stipend.

So we'll just pretend that the other $5500 is not compensation because there's a $500 travel stipend.

Are you even trying at this point? Or simply channeling Sarah Sanders?

You did not post a link to this organization that he does not like. See anything wrong with that picture??

From the link: "Outreachy internships are open internationally to women (cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people. Internships are also open to residents and nationals of the United States of any gender who are Black/African American, Hispanic/Latin@, Native American/American Indian, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, or Pacific Islander."

Here is an in depth article at the Register.

As an aside, here's Huffington's post view of diversity.

Welcome to segregated America 2018. Racism and discrimination has returned. Identity politics has turned into a raging wildfire.

Thanks for making the stand Rafael, really.

Nothing about the position in question violates those rules. There isn't really an "applicant pool"...

There isn't an applicant pool?

We're so excited to have you apply! The application process for Outreachy is longer than most internship applications, so we highly encourage applicants to start their application at least 2-3 weeks before the Outreachy application deadline. The application process consists of five steps:

1. Make sure you're eligible to apply for Outreachy. We have strict eligibility rules for people who are students, so it's important that you confirm you're eligible.

...it's an Open Source project run by volunteers

Which exempts it from EEOC regulations how? Because they're not paid by the Outreachy organization based on performance in specifically assigned tasks?

Internships Start Mentors officially begin guiding their interns on the project work.
Mid-term Review Mentors provide mid-internship feedback to Outreachy organizers and indicate whether interns should be paid the mid-term payment.
Final Review Mentors provide final internship feedback to Outreachy organizers and indicate whether interns should be paid the final payment.

It's perfectly fine for them to take on a funded intern chosen from a disadvantaged community.

Yes it is - but that was never the issue. It is not perfectly fine for them to absolutely bar those not from a disadvantaged community from applying for paid interships.

Nothing about the position in question violates those rules. There isn't really an "applicant pool"...

There isn't an applicant pool?

We're so excited to have you apply! The application process for Outreachy is longer than most internship applications, so we highly encourage applicants to start their application at least 2-3 weeks before the Outreachy application deadline. The application process consists of five steps:

1. Make sure you're eligible to apply for Outreachy. We have strict eligibility rules for people who are students, so it's important that you confirm you're eligible.

...it's an Open Source project run by volunteers

Which exempts it from EEOC regulations how? Because they're not paid by the Outreachy organization based on performance in specifically assigned tasks?

Internships Start Mentors officially begin guiding their interns on the project work.
Mid-term Review Mentors provide mid-internship feedback to Outreachy organizers and indicate whether interns should be paid the mid-term payment.
Final Review Mentors provide final internship feedback to Outreachy organizers and indicate whether interns should be paid the final payment.

It's perfectly fine for them to take on a funded intern chosen from a disadvantaged community.

Yes it is - but that was never the issue. It is not perfectly fine for them to absolutely bar those not from a disadvantaged community from applying for paid interships.

That's it: one internship.

Nope, not even one... Link here.

"Unfortunately, either the community coordinator or the Outreachy organizers have determined that the community will not participate in this round of Outreachy internships."

and

"The LLVM coordinator is Tanya Lattner"

Which makes it an even more interesting turn of events - is she related with Chris Lattner, the LLVM maintainer - or is Chris in the process of gender changing? :-D

Ironically, the 'outreachy' project announced it will not participate in the LLVM internships. (link

So, basically it's much ado about nothing.

I would say that most racists aren't known for their intelligence. This might be an exception. Or I might be completely wrong, I don't know this idiot ;)

I don't know much about Outreachy. But a program that encourages participation by women and minorities requiring that funding candidates actually be women or minorities doesn't seem at all out of place for the purpose of the organization.

Well, you can easily learn about them: https://www.outreachy.org/appl...

The community change I cannot take is how the social injustice movement has permeated it. When I joined llvm no one asked or cared about my religion or political view. We all seemed committed to just writing a good compiler framework. Somewhat recently a code of conduct was adopted. It says that the community tries to welcome people of all "political belief". Except those whose political belief mean that they don't agree with the code of conduct. Since agreement is required to take part in the conferences, I am no longer able to attend. The last drop was llvm associating itself with an organization that openly discriminates based on sex and ancestry (1,2). This goes directly against my ethical views and I think I must leave the project to not be associated with this. [1] http://lists.llvm.org/pipermai... [2] https://www.outreachy.org/appl...

The Outreachy link does say they do not accept males that are caucasian, European, Asian or Arabic. I think he's right for leaving, I would not want to be part of a group that actively discriminates either.

You must meet one of the following criteria:

• You live any where in the world and you identify as a woman (cis or trans), trans man, or genderqueer person (including genderfluid or genderfree).
• You live in the United States or you are a U.S. national or permanent resident living aboard, AND you are a person of any gender who is Black/African American, Hispanic/Latin@, Native American/American Indian, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, or Pacific Islander

No he said that what clinched his decision to leave was

The last drop was llvm associating itself with an organization that openly discriminates based on sex and ancestry (1,2).

which comes from Outreachy's possibly illegal discriminator eligibility requirements here: https://www.outreachy.org/appl...

• You must meet one of the following criteria:
  • You live any where in the world and you identify as a woman (cis or trans), trans man, or genderqueer person (including genderfluid or genderfree).
  • You live in the United States or you are a U.S. national or permanent resident living aboard, AND you are a person of any gender who is Black/African American, Hispanic/Latin@, Native American/American Indian, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, or Pacific Islander

Outreachy is explicitly discriminating based on skin color and ethnic heritage, as well as gender identity, excluding white cis-men.

He's leaving because the intern program openly discriminates based on gender, sexual orientation, or ancestry. Basically, they won't hire a white American male as an intern. (See https://www.outreachy.org/appl...)

https://www.outreachy.org/

From https://www.outreachy.org/appl...

"Outreachy Eligibility Rules

You must meet one of the following criteria:

You live any where in the world and you identify as a woman (cis or trans), trans man, or genderqueer person (including genderfluid or genderfree).

You live in the United States or you are a U.S. national or permanent resident living aboard, AND you are a person of any gender who is Black/African American, Hispanic/Latin@, Native American/American Indian, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, or Pacific Islander"

So, there you go. If your skin color isn't acceptable, no internship for you.

The last drop was llvm associating itself with an organization that
openly discriminates based on sex and ancestry (1,2). This goes
directly against my ethical views and I think I must leave the project
to not be associated with this.

[1] http://lists.llvm.org/pipermai...
[2] https://www.outreachy.org/appl...

What if the group was "white straight dudes under 30 only" would giving money to this group still be ok?

It's rather rich to preach tolerance of other tribes and at the same time actively promote and give money to clubs whose only requirement for belonging is tribal purity.

I don't see how it is possible to preach tolerance while actively supporting and funding tribalism while not becoming a hypocrite in the process.

If you want more diversity or whatever there are ways to get there that don't involve nurturing tribalism.

Link and excerpt:

The reason for me leaving are the changes in the community. The current license change discussions unfortunately bring to memory the fsf politics when I was working on gcc. That would still not be sufficient reason to leave. As with the code, llvm will still have the best license and if the only community change was the handling of the license change I would probably keep going.

The community change I cannot take is how the social injustice movement has permeated it. When I joined llvm no one asked or cared about my religion or political view. We all seemed committed to just writing a good compiler framework.

Somewhat recently a code of conduct was adopted. It says that the community tries to welcome people of all "political belief". Except those whose political belief mean that they don't agree with the code of conduct. Since agreement is required to take part in the conferences, I am no longer able to attend.

The last drop was llvm associating itself with an organization that openly discriminates based on sex and ancestry (1,2). This goes directly against my ethical views and I think I must leave the project to not be associated with this.

So long, and thanks for all the bugs,
Rafael