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Jabber or Openfire
Well, in my experience I have used Openfire and Jabber (via ebox). Both are easy to install and use. Ebox is a bit harder, but if you don't already have a server with SSO, it is the best option in my opinion. I have scaled both at companies with ~200 employees.
Word of warning though, I only use communications internally, have not tried to connect either solution via Internet (only as corporate intranet), though it is possible.
For the client, I find Pandion works best on XP clients, if you do not need other protocols as MSN, Yahoo, etc. -
Re:Open Source
I use Wildfire (the server from jive) for this exact same thing. However I wasn't a big fan of the client (Spark). I wanted a native windows app because we have some older computers (sorry java fans). So I deployed Pandion and my users love it.
But I would highly recomend Wildfire, I love it and its easy to set up and administer. I put together a server on a Win2k3 box in an afternoon.
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Re:Everything he rails against...
Except that gaim had miserable Jabber support last I looked a few months back, about as bare and iChat's. Check out Pandion for Windows, or Gajim for Linux/Windows/OSX and you'll probably be happier if you're in a pure-jabber environment. Jive Messanger makes a nice internal Jabber server without the explitatives usually required for jabberd 1.4. - rustytaco
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Re:AOL? I favor alternative IM optionsThat is basically Jabber, also known as XMPP. It's an open, XML based standard that has the ability to use SSL or TLS for encryption, and supports offline messaging as well as other nice features, such as resources, and multiple ways to display your presence (A standard 'Do not disturb' as well as a message to go along with it.)
Give it a shot in Gaim, Pandion, Adium, etc. Jabber.org has a list of public jabber servers you can register with (you register within your client) and from there can begin toying with it. It usually dosn't matter what server you pick, as you can message and have buddies on other servers, as well as use services (like transports to other protocols, chat rooms) on other servers. The most popular is jabber.org, but you can use another server or install an XMPP compliant server of your own.
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Re:Cheers for Adium!A great one is Pandion for Windows. It's slightly buggy, but very lightweight and has an excellent interface, better then any other Jabber/XMPP client I've used.
On Mac OS X, I use Psi. I like Adium, but Psi has a lot of nice, advanced features. Like resubmitting subscription requests, server administration tools, etc. Its ugly though, made using Qt so it's cross-platform, but looks strange when it's not on a Linux-with-kde desktop. -
Re:Are you kidding me ?
.. and let me add that Jabber is, like most (not all) things OSS, nothing but a
While I'm sure it borrows ideas from commercial services, I'd hesitate to call it a copy. It's built from the ground up, based on open standards and both clients and servers are available in both open- and closed-source variants. ... copy of a commercial service.Where's video or audio IM
You mean like this? Currently making its way into a client near you.buddy icons
By which I assume you mean avatars. Much discussion and experimentation has gone into how best to implement user avatars and I feel confident that the standard will be agreed upon soon. Not that it's exactly a "must-have" feature.I've tried some of the Jabber client (e.g. GAIM) and they are awful
I agree, GAIM is awful. Try Exodus, or better yet Psi. They're much better. There's also Pandion, but that's Windows-only and is based on Internet Explorer, which was more than enough to put me off. ... in terms of both ease of use and functionality. -
Re:Are you kidding me ?
.. and let me add that Jabber is, like most (not all) things OSS, nothing but a
While I'm sure it borrows ideas from commercial services, I'd hesitate to call it a copy. It's built from the ground up, based on open standards and both clients and servers are available in both open- and closed-source variants. ... copy of a commercial service.Where's video or audio IM
You mean like this? Currently making its way into a client near you.buddy icons
By which I assume you mean avatars. Much discussion and experimentation has gone into how best to implement user avatars and I feel confident that the standard will be agreed upon soon. Not that it's exactly a "must-have" feature.I've tried some of the Jabber client (e.g. GAIM) and they are awful
I agree, GAIM is awful. Try Exodus, or better yet Psi. They're much better. There's also Pandion, but that's Windows-only and is based on Internet Explorer, which was more than enough to put me off. ... in terms of both ease of use and functionality. -
Re:I second that motion
On the Mac, iChat will hopefully take this role. On Windows, there's Pandion and on Linux there's Gossip.
The server, well, depends on what server you're using. In my experience, Jabberd 1.4 wasn't that bad, but the config file was a pain in the ass. (Debian decided to ship it broken and only allow SSL connections, per their security model. It took me a lot of hassle to figure this out.)