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Re:the ones to blame are the 350.org, etc
BTW, you think that China is doing things for good? Okay. Lets look at REAL NUMBERS.
Go look at table a1.2 in this study and compare US vs. China.
What you see is that America's per capita has gone from 19.6 in 1990, to 16.4 in 2012, which is a total change of -17%.
OTOH, china has gone from 2.1 in 1990 to 7.1 in 2012 which is a total change of 233%.
And you claim that China is IMPROVING? Seriously? In a normal year, China increases their emissions per capita, by .5-1.0.
OTOH, America has been dropping ours by .5-1 each year. In 3-5 years, China's per capita emissions will surpass America's. -
Re:Hmm... correction
First off, per capita is WORTHLESS. The reason is that emissions has NOTHING to do with the number of ppl. It has EVERYTHING to do with GDP and choices made by businesses.
Secondly, America's 2013 per capita emissions was in 15, not 18. Heck, in this written for 2012, , they show that America was at 16.4, while EU was 7.4, and china was at 7.1.
In 2013, America's per capita went down into the 15, while China went up to 8's and EU edged upwards. So, total BS from you.
Third, I notice no links from you. I have seen you post this BS over and over, and always NEVER with links.
" Fourth, GDP emissions is outrageous from China. One of the worst in the world. And it continues to get bad. This is what has to stop. -
Yes, I remember Kyoto
America is AHEAD of where we promised to be.
What about it?
Back in early 90's, China accounted for less than 10% of global CO2, with Europe and America over 20% each.
Now, China accounts for more than 33%, while Europe is around 11%, and America at less than 15%. -
Re:China is not very high on the pre capita list.
In 2012, China ranked above 3 Annex I countries in per capita emissions. http://www.pbl.nl/sites/defaul...
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Re:Republicans are burning in the Hell they made
per capita emissions, in metric tons: USA - 17.5 china - 5.3 India - 1.5
Those are inaccurate 2008 numbers. The correct numbers are here: http://www.pbl.nl/en/publications/2012/trends-in-global-co2-emissions-2012-report
USA 17.3
China 7.2
India 2ish?But more important is the trend. The US has lowered emissions 13-14% below its year 2000 peak and it continues to trend down. In the same time, China's has increased over 250% and it continues to trend up. China is easily projected to surpass the US in emissions per capita within the decade. Now tell me you're more concerned about the US.
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Re:Uh oh
IPCC had *a lot* of criticism because in one of their reports (not the summary report but the WG II report) they erroneously reported that most of the Netherlands would be under water.
It's more accurate to say that only a quarter of the Netherlands would be under water, and half at risk of flooding whenever there's bad weather (that's often). The rich, densely populated western half.
Report: http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/02/13/us-climate-seas-idUSTRE61C1V420100213
Primary source about their own mistake: http://www.pbl.nl/en/news/pressreleases/2010/20100705-Key-findings-of-IPCC-on-regional-climate-change-impacts-overall-considered-well-founded -
Re:2 big problems in that report
The 'deniers' didn't find the Himalaya glacier error. It was found by a glacier expert, Georg Kaser, who happens to be one of the lead authors of the snow-and-ice chapter in vol. 1 of the IPCC report, which deals with the physical science basis for man-made climate change. (No errors found there.) The error was in vol. 2, which deals with the impacts of climate change, way down on p. 493 in a 'case study' inside the chapter on Asia, which apparently was not reviewed by any glacier expert.
The other error -- regarding the percentage of the Netherlands that is below sea level -- came from no lesser a source than the Dutch government (oops).