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Seems like you're wrong, they added support for systemd dbus calls, but no dependency on systemd libs. It will use it if it's there, but doesn't require it.

This message has a small description of what they did. Too bad other developers don't want to be this conscious and prefer to link with systemd libs, needed or not.

Interesting, but it doesn't seem popular. Even my Debian's apt-get doesn't have a packages of it. http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/debian_installation.html and other distributions, from http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases/3.5.12/, are broken (404 errors). :(

Have a look at the Kubuntu Trinity repository: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ It's the KDE3.x tree grafted back onto Kubuntu, with all KDE3 and KDE4 apps supported painlessly. Between my office and various friends, I've put it on a dozen or so machines, and it's just great. Every time I installed KDE4, it just spawned an endless series of phone calls from mystified users, so it's Trinity now, and it all Just Works.

If you really like 3.5.10 why don't you use Trinity?

For me KDE 4.6 serves all my needs, memory footprint could be better, but it's now the way it should be.

For those still waiting for KDE to port things from KDE3, there's Trinity - http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/ Not perfect, but a great alternative.

It is nice to have OCR and Quanta fully functional again.

http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/

If you like KDE 3.5 so much, just use Trinity: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/

I'm not a programmer either but I'm also not stupid which is why I can identify the cause for a problem when I see one.

Well, I am a programmer. Just not an OS or GUI programmer.

What I am not is a fanboy or a pedantic cock. KDE4 is awful. Long time KDE users have been complaining non-stop since 4.0 was released.

When is the last time you heard of a user community joining together to bring back a previous version of any major software package? Well, I have.

KDE 3.5.x has been adopted and is under active development because a critical mass of people are disgusted with KDE4.

And as I already wrote: Smartphones and netbooks can both run the software fine, too.

It's probably easier to handle a half or quarter vga screen than a 1600x1200x2 desktop.

LK

KDE3 has been forked, have a look at http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/

Well there is now a KDE3 fork called Trinity: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/ - they've maintained a KDE3 repository for Ubuntu for a while now, and want to start fixing bugs and making minor enhancements in the next stage.

As in, the port of KDE 3.5.10 for Jaunty (*buntu 9.04) backported PDF rotation into KPDF, among other things (it's mentioned in the release notes that were linked to on the front page of Kubuntu.org back right before Jaunty Final came out). With those packages you can run KDE 3.5.10 as your DE but still load KDE 4 apps when they're preferable. I know I've now responded to two of your comments and mentioned the KDE 3.5 Jaunty Remix in both comments, but I really wanted to be sure you noticed its existence!

As to NetworkManager, unfortunately current developments in NetworkManager have broken KDE 3.5's KNetworkManager, which is the main problem with running KDE 3.5 on Jaunty. It's fairly easy to get around, though, by just either installing network-manager-gnome and running nm-applet, or (and this is what I've been doing on my netbook) installing Wicd, which is in the repos for Jaunty.

All that being said, although I'm running Jaunty on my laptop, netbook, backup PC and projector computer (albeit that's just an Openbox session and XBMC, not even a DM is running), and gone the Jaunty-KDE3-remix route with two different friends' netbooks, on my main PC which is also my duplex's file server I'm riding out this LTS to the next LTS if I can (and I might not even reboot until then).

Examples of stuff that still doesn't work on Kubuntu Jaunty: About half the wireless networks I try to connect to, the brightness keys on my laptop, transcoding in Amarok, switch compositing on and off more than once or twice and compositing slows to a crawl, with a high chance of krunner or plasma crashing.

Okay, speaking as a guy who's running KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu 8.04 on his main computer I guess I can't argue with you too much ;) All my other computers are dabbling to degree in KDE 4, though, and at least one thing I have to take issue with. The Amarok team is quite independent of the main KDE development; the fact that it's based on KDE 4 isn't really why it's so broken it's just that they decided to re-write it from the ground up on their own anyways. Personally they can take Amarok 1.4 from me when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers (or when Amarok 2 is finally on par, which I expect in about 2011), and I've installed Jaunty with KDE 3.5.10 on three different laptops (in case you didn't know, see the Ubuntu KDE 3.5 maintainers home page).

That being said it seems to be a very per-user experience. I tend to have a lot of wacky hardware and setups, so I get screwed; I know and know of people that utterly adore KDE 4 though (like Klaatu from The Bad Apples). Furthermore, for the most part (Amarok 2 being one of the exceptions) I rather like the KDE4 apps. I have a netbook on which KDE 4.3 on Jaunty works almost flawlessly and with 95% of the features of KDE 3.5 with about 30% extra new ones, with of course the annoying problem of how it starts to slow to a near-crash-level crawl if I leave it running for more than 20 minutes...but just running LXDE or Fluxbox or Openbox, and then I can use all the flashy new KDE4 versions of programs in a stable environment, that's how I've dealt with it for the most part.

Totally random, but connected to the topic of Open Source Design, one of the really cool innovations that has come about in KDE land, which is ported to KDE 4 so you can use it in Konqueror there too, is Filelight. It's the best graphical representation of filespace usage I've ever used. Especially if you're like me and have dozens of hard drives filled up with downloaded media distro .iso's and rainbow tables really big but innocuous stuff, and especially especially if also like me things tend to become messy despite vain attempts at OCD-level sorting, then Filelight utterly revolutionizes things. When I look at Konqueror using views like that, then think of OSX's Finder or Windows' Explorer . . . well, then Open Source design doesn't seem like it has anything to answer for!

If you are like me and wanted to keep KDE3 but move to Intrepid, all is not lost. Use the KDE3-maintainers PPA:

http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/

There's this forum thread to help with issues:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695

It's working for me with no issues.

For KDE 3.5 you have to use 8.04.

Actually, there is an unofficial KDE3.5 repository for Intrepid, and it works great: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/

Don't know what I'd do without it. (well, actually, I'd probably roll back to 8.04)

Just as well clue everyone in. PearsonComputing are hosting their own deb repository for KDE 3.5 in Intrepid.

I fully expect the slashdot effect to kick in by November 1, 2008. I am positive that the repository will shit the bed when thousands of Kubuntu users who finaly see that their cam is supported in Intrepid running a 2.6.27 and still want KDE 3.5. Hardy won't cut it or them. Ubuntu will not have published a 2.6.27 Kernel for Hardy. They will still want 2.6.27 AND KDE 3.5.

I am set, already have my wifes Acer One on Intrepid in Xubuntu and KDE 3.5 added. As for me, it does not matter I run fluxbox or xfce. Besides, I am alrady running 2.6.27 with Hardy.

I will further add. When I do switch to Intrepid in a few months. I will probably use Linux Mint's Fluxbox or XFCE edition. Gives me a better looking desktop and I don't even have to spend an hour downloading codecs to get video codes, mp3 and flash working.