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Supreme Court is ignored, too.
It's not just congress, but also the court system.
The chain of command is totally broken here.
From:
United States of America and Judge Dawson vs Irwin Schiff
Prosecutor: "Objection! Irrelevant!"
Judge Dawson: "Sustained!"
Irwin Schiff: "The income tax law is irrelevant?"
Judge Dawson: "I will not allow the law in my courtroom!"
Irwin Schiff: "But the Supreme Court said in the Cheek decision..."
Judge Dawson: "Irrevelant! Denied!"
Irwin Schiff: "The Supreme Court is irrelevant?"
Judge Dawson: "Irrevelant! Denied!"
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Quantum, you make this easy
your analogy is faulted. If someone breaks into my home, steaks my secrets and gives them to someone else to be be pulished, they are guilty of breaking and entering. I may be arrested if those secrets indicade illegal activity, despite the method of abtaining them. I and the perp may be arrested. If the secrets were obtained by a third party from someone that lived in my house, say, my wife, then it is not theft, simply me being turned in for illegal activity.
Defense secrets should be kept secret, but what if the secrets are hiding illegal activity that needs to, no must, be exposed.
If the gvt. spying on legal protesters because of "national secrets" issues but is realy cracking down on its critics, would you want to know? http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/1 5/155219/
If the gvt. (read NSA) is spying on American citizens who are living in America, wouldn't you want to know? (NSA is't chartered to do domestic spying)http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/121 6-01.htm/
If the gvt. is spying on/jailing reporters due to "some laws" in an effort to curtail their investigations into administration acrivities that may be illegal, wouldn't you wnat to know? http://judithmiller.org/news/p20050801.php/
If the gvt. gave specific reasons for going to war, and some of them may have been fabricated to convince the public, wouldn't you want to know?http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article= 35415/
If the gvt. were opening your mail because it came from overseas, wouldn't you want to know?Ifthegvt.wasreadingyouremailbecauseyouattende dananti-warprotestincollege,wouldn'tyouwanttoknow? Ifthegvt.wasreclassifyinghundredsofthousandsofdocu mentsthathadbeenpublishedforyearsordecades,wouldn' tyouwanttoknowwhy?Ifyouweresomehowonanoflylistandw ereinnowayaffailatedwithterroristsbutwereawellknow nwarprotester,wouldn'twanttoknowwhy?Ifthegvt.isspy ingoncitizenswithoutacourtorder(don'tgivethatbulls hitaboutorderstakingtoolong,theycangetaFISAorderth reedaysAFTERthespyinghasbeendone),wouldn'twouwantt oknow?Icouldgoon(andon),butyoushouldgettheideabyno w.Thegvt.shouldhavesecrets,butifthosesecretsarecov eringupillegalactivity,thepeoplehavearighttoknowan dthepresshasaobligationtotellthem.Thepresidenthasg reatpowerwhilewearewar,butisn'titinterestingthatwe areinaneverendingwaronterror.Nopoliticianwouldever endthewaronterroraslongasterrorsomewhereexists -
Hillary still wants a national ID cardThings are getting a might bit scary under the Republicans in the US right now.
Why do you think this is a Republican issue? There are plenty of statist scum in both parties who support internal passports.
All this national-ID shit started under Clinton, and Hillary still wants a national ID card encoded with biometric data.
You owe freedom-loving Republicans like Rep. Ron Paul an apology.
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Re:Well...
Ok, you are actually quite off on the FEMA comment. There is a big difference between what happened in Florida with hurricanes and what happened in Louisianna. There was poor response from FEMA and most everyone notices it.
It was FEMA who turned away Wal-Mart trucks with water and supplies.
It was FEMA who told Amtrak they didn't want evacuation help.
It was FEMA who did not use available Navy ships and sent away the Coast Guard with diesel fuel.
It was FEMA who turned away volunteers with boats and hovercraft.
The recent Florida situation doesn't count because FEMA is trying to overcompensate now. Also your conspiracy theorist will tell you to look at who is Governor of Florida...
The fact is both governments screwed up, but FEMA is looking worst in this because they are the ones who are suppose to have the resources to provide aid. I point you to about 1/2 the way down the story here. An example of government preventing aid, and why I think (as a libertarian) that FEMA is nothing more then a unnecessary entity that has only gotten in the way of volunteer efforts.
I can probably find a few local and state government screw ups too (there was a Doctor licensing issue involving the state govt. I think). There is plenty of blame to go around, the fact is FEMA does share a lot of blame and to ignore that fact is pure ignorance. -
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Somtimes the government just destroys your wife's career, blowing the CIA front company and any operations or sources she may have been involved with, past or present, if they don't like what you write in the papers.
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Re:OK - Spend it!
Per request, a link.
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Re:You can have my cruise missiles...
Craven shit like this is why the NRA needs to buy a TV network!