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  1. Re:Problem is links going out of Australia. by Matt_R · · Score: 5, Interesting · on 99% of Australians With Broadband By 2009?
    The total over(under?)seas capacity will increase 10x in the next year.

    Telstra are building their own 1.2Tbps cable to Hawaii, Pipenetworks are building a 640Mbps cable to Guam, and Southern Cross are upgrading their cables from 240Gbps to 1.2Tbps.

    So things are actually looking good.

  2. Re:Can be that great of a data center. by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1 · on Building a Data Center In 60 Days

    I don't think Datacentreknowledge.com cares about the DC, they care about the adverts on their link-scavenging 'blog'.

    the link to the DC build is at http://www.pipenetworks.com/dc3/ but it's slashdotted - come back tomorrow.

  3. Re:compare to land by Wolfbaine · · Score: 2, Interesting · on ISPs Fight Against Encrypted BitTorrent Downloads

    Such a thing is (or at least was) commonly done in Australia. Many ISPs hold membership to their regional internet association, which provides low cost traffic for local transit (through exchanges such as WAIX, PIPE and the academic AARNET). Traditionally ISPs have passed on unmetered access to these networks (not contributing to the established quotas) however this has become uncommon with many ISPs pocketing the savings and counting all the traffic.

    Indeed many local pirates were using the networks for file trading under an assumption of protection from prosecution (saving the ISPs from the usual traffic bills) until crack downs shut down the more popular sites.

  4. Re:MCI will peer if you are actually a _peer_ by mcbridematt · · Score: 1 · on Patent Mess May Stifle Australian Software

    Of course, no big ISP wants to give away free transit bandwidth to a small ISP, and I was not meaning interconnection for flat-fee transit bandwidth.

    Singtel Optus did it in WAIX, and everybody flushed 15GB a day (or month? It was a big number) to Sigapore. They cut it because they were paying the huge transit bill (how hard is it to just not advertise those networks to a IX at all?).

    It's not that the Big ISP's shouldn't peer with smaller ones that should really be paying transit costs, But that the "Big 4" refuse to peer with the other Tier-1 ISP's down here. ISP's have been going to the ACCC about it, funny since it was a ACCC decision in 1998 which forced the 4 to peer.

    What hurts over here is when we have content on one of the big 4 networks, in the same city, but you have to pay a fortune for it. ISP's have been paying per the MB for stuff like the ABC broadband archive, PlanetMirror and AARNet (especially it's mirror). The ABC recently agreed to peer with PIPE in Sydney (after having fibre terminated there a long time ago, both free of charge in the hope it will peer). It should ease performance issues with the ABC's link with AAPT (causing everybodys streams to drop out in peak times at the moment). Some of the 'in the press' articles at PIPE networks provide some insight into the state of peering in Australia.

  5. Re:what about mistakes? by mcbridematt · · Score: 1 · on Comcast Gets Tough on Spam

    Expensive?

    In Australia, sending traffic to the U.S is cheaper than sending traffic accross the road to Telstra, Optus, MCI or AAPT where you get billed per the MB since they refuse to peer with anyone else.

    Practically every leecher in Australia has an ISP who doesn't charge traffic to ISPs who peer in IX'es in the same state. (i.e PIPE Networks IX and WAIX)

    Just ask SprintLink.

  6. The current state of .au peering... by ghostrider_one · · Score: 5, Insightful · on Australia Investigates Peering Practices
    ... isn't as bad as one might expect from the article. Quite a number of small and medium-sized ISPs peer, as do larger ISPs. The problem is that larger ISPs (ie Telstra, Optus, Connect.com etc) will only peer among themselves, and not with anyone further down the foodchain. Peering groups such as Pipe networks and ausbone have had good results getting the smaller ISPs to peer with eachother, and varying results with medium-sized ISPs, but the carte^H^H^H^H^Hclique of large-sized ISPs (ie have non-trivial amounts of International bandwidth, and large amounts of content on their network) just wont play ball, and the ACCC will have a fight on their hands if they want to make them.

    Complicating things is the fact that probably the biggest content host in Australia (no names, no pack drill) steadfastly refuses to peer. Of course, they're owned by $tier_1_ISP. If they peer, they give away the traffic. If they don't peer, they charge money for the traffic. What do you think they're going to do?