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Re:Dont trust them.
if you can't get cable and can only have ADSL, use Demon.
I have found DSL to be much more reliable than (NTL) cable, although it is true that trusting BT to do the ISP side of things is a very bad idea (they seem just as clueless as NTL). I used to use Demon for my dialup, but when I switched to DSL a couple of years back their network was in pieces and was generally quite flakey so I moved to PlusNet who have done a excellent job of running a very stable DSL line. I think it's gone down a total of twice in 2 years - once was a very short outage caused by an equipment failure at PlusNet and the other was about 4 or 5 hours which was BT's fault (and also took out most of the DSL lines in the South-East of the UK).
Admittedly I only use them for the connection, I run all the services (mail, DNS, etc) myself because I frankly don't trust any consumer ISPs to know as much as me about networking.
I have also heard good things about Bogons if you want an ISP with a clue and they're aparantly happy to do almost anything with a DSL line (moving portable IP addresses onto it, multi-channel bonding, etc). -
Re:Is this suprising?
I don't think this is a problem. Once this becomes widespread, the ISPs can just put measures to block individual customers who start sending large enough volumes of e-mail, or even spam filtering outgoing mail. This is already being done by at least one UK isp that I know of. Their reasoning is that they don't want their entire mailserver blacklisted, so will prevent the customer from sending the spam in the first place. I am not aware whether they block outbound 25.And the next generation of zombie programs will do a simple DNS lookup for the mailserver of the current domain and start sending spam through the ISP's mailserver.
With the side effect that in no time no single customer of that ISP can send mail because the mail server is on every blacklist you can imagine.
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Re:Is this suprising?
I don't think this is a problem. Once this becomes widespread, the ISPs can just put measures to block individual customers who start sending large enough volumes of e-mail, or even spam filtering outgoing mail. This is already being done by at least one UK isp that I know of. Their reasoning is that they don't want their entire mailserver blacklisted, so will prevent the customer from sending the spam in the first place. I am not aware whether they block outbound 25.And the next generation of zombie programs will do a simple DNS lookup for the mailserver of the current domain and start sending spam through the ISP's mailserver.
With the side effect that in no time no single customer of that ISP can send mail because the mail server is on every blacklist you can imagine.
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Re:In the UK
You can cut at least 4GBP off the 500k with www.plus.net - and for everyone else you refer to them you get 50p a month off that.
...just put eldertree in the referrer box when you sign up ;) -
I already pay a small fee to filesharefor filesharing - my ISP has 2 offerings for ADSL - a cheaper version where filesharing and other ports are blocked, and a more expensive version (10% more) that has various other services and filesharing enabled.
So.. in effect, I am already paying a fee to share files. I have no problem with this - in the UK at least, some ISPs are putting limits on bandwidth usage to stop people sucking up everything they can see continuously, my ISPs way of reducing bandwidth usage is to make us pay slightly more for a better service (or slightly less for the basic service). I should point out that the basic service is cheaper than nearly all the other UK ISPs.
Charging a small fee to the ISPs who allow filesharing would just see the services my ISP offers being offered by other ISPs. No doubt some people will still complain about having to pay an extra $2 a month...
my ISP - PlusNet
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Re:The UK
Agreed.
AOL uses ntl's network for its FRIACO service.
My ISP, PlusNet believes that it won't be directly affected as it uses Level 3 and Sprint as backbone providers.