Domain: polisen.se
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Re:Are you saying that criminals don't exist?
I do have a big problem with people obscuring the truth, and thus far you've presented no compelling evidence to suggest the above information is untrue.
I can't since you don't read Swedish and obviously don't believe me who do.
All the above is media echo chamber from one police report. Even if you failed to link it correctly its this one.
Now, I'm not going to translate the lot for you, as you wouldn't believe it anyway, but just the first sentence sums it up quite nicely "I Sverige finns i nulÃget 55 geografiska omrÃ¥den dÃr lokala kriminella nÃtverk anses ha negativ pÃ¥verkan pÃ¥ lokalsamhÃllet". -> In Sweden there are at present 55 geographic areas where local criminal network are considered to have a negative impact on the local community."
That's as far as the "no-go" zones go.
Now, I'm not going to fisk the rest, because it's too tedious, but just as a "for instance": "Here is just one of many news stories on how police have to install shatterproof glass on their vehicles because they get rocks hurled at them whenever entering these areas". No, if you read the article, it says that due to the possibility of stones being thrown, the police responce busses (piketbussarna) have had shatterproof glass fitted. These are the vehicles carrying the special response units, riot police for example, that gets called in when things have gotten bad enough that its warranted (much like armed police in Britain). Again hyperbole. The offered citation doesn't actually say or support what "swedenreport" is trying to sell.
But like I said before, you're fishing in the wrong pond. There are "better" sites if you wish to keep this up.
If you're so concerned for the truth, then there's plenty of that to go around. One would think that with all this crime, drug dealing, shootings and IS supporters running rampant that would show up in crime statistics? Now, general crime statistics is a tricky subject since there's always the problem of what gets reported and how, so the usual proxy is to look at "homicide" i.e. wrongful death. That's a pretty useful statistic as dead people tend to show up in the statistics and are easy to count, and general crime tends to correlate rather well with violent crime, which correlates with people dying from it.
Here's the current count of "lethal violence" in Sweden. Since we have population of 9 644 864 at last count that means a rate of 0.9 per 100k inhabitants in 2014. This is including the last three years of gang shootings (that as you can see didn't even impact the overall statistics). That's better than almost all countries in the world. Including, I might add, Ireland.
So, by that token, it doesn't even matter that we have "no-go zones" then, as the people in them don't get up to much anyway... Police presence or not...
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Re:Are you saying that criminals don't exist?
Except it's not just one link, there are many more, to quote from the linked article:
National newspaper Svenska Dagbladet, explicitly using the term “no-go zones”:http://www.svd.se/opinion/leda...
National newspaper Aftonbladet on the rampant ISIS recruitment taking place in these areas:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyhe...
Dr Magnus Ranstorp on the rapid growth of radicalized Islamists (in English):
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/...
An article about the police incident deserting their own and ceding control to criminals in Landskrona. They literally use the term in the headline, adding that the police are now pulling out of the area:
http://hd.se/landskrona/2014/0...
The local police chief explaining why the officers are not to exit their vehicles and make arrests:
http://www.hd.se/lokalt/landsk...
More from the police chief on how they now deal with the area:
http://hd.se/landskrona/2014/0...
Also, if these areas do not exist, why is the ambulance union demanding military-grade protection gear to enter them?
http://mobil.svd.se/nyheter/am...
Another article interviewing the ambulance union chief on why they need bulletproof vests, helmets and similar gear:
http://magasinetneo.se/artikla...
As for the police report, it clearly states that there are indeed informal courts and parallel justice systems (page 12, third paragraph (3.4.3)). Anyone who has read about Södertäljenätverket knows how broad the extent of this clan-based influence can be.
http://polisen.se/Aktuellt/Rap...—Nationellt/Ovriga-rapporterutredningar/Kriminella-natverk-med-stor-paverkan-i-lokalsamhallet/
The vehicle checkpoints are mentioned on page 15, fourth paragraph (3.5.3).
On page 13, second paragraph (3.4.4) you find the frequent attacks on police. Here is just one of many news stories on how police have to install shatterproof glass on their vehicles because they get rocks hurled at them whenever entering these areas:
http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regi...
There are numerous newspaper articles, police reports and even Youtube videos by the gangs themselves bragging about how they’re chasing off the cops from “their” area, but I think this list should be enough.
I've nothing against Muslims in general myself, the same as I've nothing against Hindus, Christians or Buddhists. I do have a big problem with people obscuring the truth, and thus far you've presented no compelling evidence to suggest the above information is untrue. A rambling collection of anecdotes and opinions, sure, but no evidence.
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Re:Unexpected benefits
We've had this as a policy in Sweden for quite some time now. The Swedish police posts all traffic surveillance on their home page in the hope that people will act more responsibly if they know they have an increased risk of getting cought. Don't know how well it works but on Wikipedias list of road fatalities per 100k inhabitants/ year we're on second place globally.
Links:
http://www.polisen.se/Aktuellt/Trafikovervakning/Trafikovervakning-hela-landet/
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Re:incorrect
I cannot understand how this can be moderated informative. It is nothing but a claim by an AC, without any references or arguments supporting it.
And the claim is wrong: After the mainstream press in Sweden has picked up this story, the swedish police has issued a press release (in swedish), where they confirm that they intend to start blocking TPB next week if there is still child pornography to be found at the site. At least it is now official. (The police never contacted TPB, and the reason we knew about it before it happened was because a confidential mail from the police to some ISPs was leaked.)
But the police it still not telling where the child pornography can be found (if they did it would be removed immediately by TPB). Could somebody please download all the 600000+ torrents from TPB and look through the downloads before next week so we can get the child pornography removed?
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Oh!
By the way... here is the link to the Swedish police: http://www.polisen.se/
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Re:According to whom?!
Because http://polisen.se/ doesn't even mention that this has happened, so unless you are in direct contact with the Swedish police you can't get any info from them.
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In other news
In other news! "Hackers hit Swedish police site Logo of The Pirate Bay The Pirate Bay site says it plans to be up again shortly Cyber vandals have attacked the website of the Swedish police, forcing it to shut down. Police said the site was taken offline after it was overloaded by net data." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5041848.stm what do you think? Perhaps swedish police got slashdotted
:D http://www.polisen.se/inter/nodeid=10230&pageversi on=1.htm I think this is the link, it isnt back up yet from its denial of service. If people could keep checking and let us know when it is back online?? -
THE Police Website.
Seems the DDoS has stopped and it hasn't been slashdotted yet, see while you can!
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Tell them!
Of course you could tell the Swedish Police http://www.polisen.se/inter/nodeid=10272&pagevers
i on=1.html just what you think about this...