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Re:So It Begins.
Well, here's a couple in the past decade:
https://prochoice.org/educatio...
Not saying that this nutcase/domestic terrorist should be excused because of what previous nutcase/domestic terrorists have done.
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Frightening disregard for human life(and accuracy)
Texas (down to one operating abortion clinic, last I heard)
The most cursory of searches brought me here:
https://prochoice.org/think-yo...
which shows ten Texas locations offering abortion services.
outweighs the rights of a living breathing human being
So living human beings who are unable to breathe on their own (because of temporary injury, or because their lungs are simply not yet developed enough) are fair game to be killed?
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Re:Cool
1) what bombings?
http://prochoice.org/wp-conten...
I could not find any info about recent bombings in Texas that were the cause of Planned Parenthood clinics for closing. Why would anyone bomb a clinic if they closed because of the stricter Texas law?
Because the U.S. Supreme court blocked enforcement of the admitting privileges provisions of HB 2 on 29 Jun 2015, in a 5-4 vote, reversing the appeals court ruling, at least temporarily. Your inability to do research is is not an indicator of you being right.
2) Your 2nd answer doesn't answer my question. Why did the clinics close if they could not conduct abortions anymore due to the stricter Texas law?
Actually, it was the revocation of both the clinic licenses and the doctors licenses that resulted in the man (but not all) the clinics closure. Others were due to the bomb threats in the statistics noted above (the law passed in 2013).
The loss of the licenses was engineered by anti-choice advocates opposed to abotion, and was managed as an intimidation and threat campaign, and as a letter writing campaign to hospital boards in various areas.
This was done by tracking doctors and patients license plate numbers. Due to this pattern of intimidation, even the clinics that were able to maintain services found that they had no customers, and that women were traveling out of state to Kansas, Oklahoma, and sometimes as far as Missouri for medical treatment.
Except of course, poor women who could not afford the travel expenses. Mostly, they just had to stay pregnant, and have babies they couldn't afford to raise, with no recourse, and somewhat extensive medical expenses, which are normally associated with having babies.
Why couldn't they still stay open to provide the necessary women health services?
Because they lost their licenses to operate, and it's illegal to practice medicine without a license... even in Texas.
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Re:I hate the calls but...
But when Republicans talk about unwarranted government intrusion on our lives, THIS is what they should mean. Not healthcare, not abortion, not welfare. THIS is exactly the kind of laws that our founders were afraid of.
The AMA has worked tirelessly for 200 years to limit competition (limit the number of schools, limit the number of graduates, limit the amount of competition). This is EXACTLY "what they should mean". This is one of the exact problems ACA ought to have solved. The reasons it didn't are obvious. Yes, the guilded doctors are what our founders feared.
You may also find curious that the AMA just didn't oppose black medical schools, house calls, and published price lists. Abortions (and midwivery as well as moon-tea peddlers) were a wedge issue they used to get more control. Of course now they will gladly perform legal abortions.
The Medical Establishment
The strongest force behind the drive to criminalize abortion was the attempt by doctors to establish for themselves exclusive rights to practice medicine. They wanted to prevent "untrained" practitioners, including midwives, apothecaries, and homeopaths, from competing with them for patients and for patient fees.
http://www.prochoice.org/about...So yes, the GOP should be involved, just not in the way you may have been thinking. Fuck Beta.
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Re:Now then...
Are they the ones who blow up all those abortion clinics?
No, that's the Americans.
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Re:You're looking in the wrong place
Yeah that happens so often. *Rolleyes*
http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/history_extreme.asp
Blowing up
... not so much.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#Murders
Murder
... not so much.Compare with Islamic Terrorism in the US.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htmNo the Terrorists are educating people like you to ignore what constitutes REAL terrorism. In other words
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Re:nothing to hide, no reason to worry?Revisionist American History, eh? Read these:
http://womenshistory.about.com/od/abortionuslegal
/ a/abortion.htmhttp://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/history_a
b ortion.htmlAnd then this:
http://www.nwhm.org/exhibits/tour_1.html
This shows abortions becoming illegal in the US during the 1850's, with women gaining the right to vote with the 19th Amendment, ratified in 1920. This tells me that for 70 years, give or take, women not only had no control over their bodies, but no voice to change it. And it was another 53 years later, in Roe vs Wade, 1973, that women actually won the right to an abortion recognised. Read your history.
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Re:Rise, and WALK!Not quite true. Science, religion, and superstition have been at three opposite poles since civilization began. Each has had long periods of popular belief, and during each of those the other two were lumped together, as religion and superstition are now. Catch-phrases used for attack include "heretic" for religious zealouts, "irrational" for science devotees, and "ignorance" for those who hold superstitious beliefs. Currently, science has held the scene and lumped together religion and magic, although an undercurrent of superstition exists now that wasn't present fourty years ago.
Modern fundamentalist religions, like those that oppose abortion, stem cell research, or equality for women, are headed for a direct confrontation with people that want to believe in a wider range of spirituality. The issue of stem cell research highlights this, because many people now respond to it in terms of the soul, whereas that was not at issue when abortion was originally made illegal in the US in the the middle and late 1800s. This concern for the soul and the sanctity of life shows a trend towards more holistic and 'superstitious' views of the world.
This view has actually been encouraged by the emerge of recent sciences including chaos theory and quantum dynamics. The cycle will continue, but if you want to know what's coming, asking high school and college students their opinions. Not the ones that are eager to answer, but the ones that are reserved about their opinions. They're the ones that are still considering the issue, and their opinions will shape decision on the subject thirty years from now. Since I think that there are a lot of undecideds on this issue, I see a big fight coming once a large number of them have made up their minds and raised children with those views.