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Re:USA, Lost its way!
Hey Australian dude, your currency has lost almost 30% against the US dollar in the last 3 months! That means we win.
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Re:Too late for Comcast
so, Comcast lose another ~$200/month. Hopefully part of a trend, because won't anyone think of the network ?
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Note to self: Dear self...
Here I am dragging the mountain to Mohammed to have a Come to Jesus meeting with a tribe of heathen Wanga Pangy just like my mother said I would end up. You have to wonder why I do this sort of dangerous work. It's because I'm a wild game guide and hunter... and this looks like it's going to be one of the wilder games of the 20th Century.
From Professor R. R. Squared of the Department of Vertically Antiquated Cultures, late of the Boston Belfry movement and
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?boar d=VCSY&read=183184
By: RapidRobert2
24 Apr 2007, 12:03 PM EDT
Msg. 183184 of 183237
(This msg. is a reply to 183175 by bart2e.)
bart2: You are the easy one to answer first, so I will start with your poorly thought out post.
You state "I hope, however, that the serving and processing of lawsuits doesn't become the main business strategy of the company. Vertical would have a lot more credibility if they were actually selling Siteflash - and other products and services - through their own salesforce. A license or two would also do wonders".
The company IS using 'SiteFlash' and other patent(s) in other products, along with a big partner. Hold onto something when we get the news, or you WILL get blown over or blown away, either works for me. Not only does the USE of 'SiteFlash' with a partner bring in money and/or other things in the future but also REINFORCES the lawsuit, both in URGENCY and AMOUNT of the suit...That means MORE money because of damages (HARM) done to VCSY with infringing on the VCSY patent(s) and selling competing products that take money away from VCSY and their partner. PRIOR USE of a patent is MUCH better than just filing a lawsuit and saying someone is 'using' the patent(s) with no harm because it wasn't being used anyway. MORE CLOUT in the court and MORE CLOUT for a settlement and license agreements, with royalty a year for income. NICE! FOR VCSY...NOT FOR MSFT!
If anyone thinks the partners of MSFT are going to be silent and play 'ignore them' when they learn that the product they BOUGHT or DEVELOPED with MSFT is using software illegally, YOU ARE WRONG and IF it can be proved that those 'other' partners of MSFT KNOWINGLY used the STOLEN software in their development of other products...Watch out. And, for those innocent MSFT partners that are in the middle, THEY WON'T LIKE IT AND THEY WON'T BE SILENT TO MSFT.
And this statement indicates you still don't understand management or the business of VCSY. You state "As was rightly pointed out, 4 years of stealth for 2 million dollars was hardly worth it. In fact, in retrospect, if that was what was going on, it was complete nonsense".
Duh! Sorry for being rude but I have been through this all with you before and I 'guess' you either didn't understand it or simply forget you knew what was going on when you first complained about these things on THIS board and YOU HAD the information in front of you to read from the response of LONGS on this board.
Forget the money from the Ross suit, although I think getting CASH of about $2.5 MILLION from Ross is nice and don't forget Ross also paid almost one million to the VCSY lawyers and add another million Ross paid to their own lawyers and the amount of the award is more impressive. IF VCSY lost, they would have had to pay those fees. THEY DIDN'T LOSE IT, THEY WON IT and arthurarsley...IT WAS NOT A TECHNICAL WIN for VCSY...The company did it with PROOF, FACTS and EXCELLENT WITNESSES! Ross wouldn't have settled if it was some made up 'Technical' win as you made up and posted today. VCSY did it the hard way, THEY EARNED THE WIN. I just don't know where the heck -
If you want to know from the other side of the argThose of you in denial and angst regarding the allegation (heavens me how could those nice young boys and girls in Seattle do anything like what has been alleged?) of patent infringement and general bad acting by Microsoft development and management (and I suppose that includes the lawyers) should check out the conversation at these various points.
VCSY message board at Raging Bull public message board
VCSY - A Laughing Place #1 at ProgrammersHeaven private message board
VCSY - A Laughing Place #2 at Tripod blog
Trying to keep up with a discussion here is like playing chess in a BART station.
Join in the discussion anytime you feel comfortable. Don't get your feelings hurt though if you go in like you know the score and somebody heats up your bathwater. If you don't know what you're talking about Those longs will tear your boxers to speedos going the wrong way. Just fair warning so you don't go sniveling and all.
VCSY just finished a long lawsuit with CDC/Ross Systems for cheating and fraud... and CDC settled with a little money and a little something for the road.
It's that 'something for the road' that makes us all think CEO Wade knows exactly what he's driving at.
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Re:Not MS, OEMNow, the concern is for the OEMs. I have been saying for a long time that by concentrating on price, they are playing the MS game, which is to maximize profit at MS and minimize profit on the hardware.
Indeed, we have seen many OEMs go away as they can no longer make cheap enough boxen. We are really going to be down to Dell, HP, Lenova and Sony. The later two are more or less premium manufacturers. HP has the experience with HP/UX to rebrand it's PC as *nix workstations, but Dell will continue to be at the mercy of MS, and I feel sorry for them as Apple continues to earn 20% per machine, while squeezing Dell's margin to zero, especially now that the Intel kickbacks seem to be a thing of the past.
Indeed, Dell's decline is already noteworthy - back in January, Steve Jobs commented "We're bigger than Dell", because the market cap had (briefly) overtaken that of Dell. It crossed back under later that week, and the two stayed pretty close to each other for the rest of January. A quick look today shows that market cap for AAPL is $80Bn, while DELL is down to $52Bn -
Re:Not MS, OEMNow, the concern is for the OEMs. I have been saying for a long time that by concentrating on price, they are playing the MS game, which is to maximize profit at MS and minimize profit on the hardware.
Indeed, we have seen many OEMs go away as they can no longer make cheap enough boxen. We are really going to be down to Dell, HP, Lenova and Sony. The later two are more or less premium manufacturers. HP has the experience with HP/UX to rebrand it's PC as *nix workstations, but Dell will continue to be at the mercy of MS, and I feel sorry for them as Apple continues to earn 20% per machine, while squeezing Dell's margin to zero, especially now that the Intel kickbacks seem to be a thing of the past.
Indeed, Dell's decline is already noteworthy - back in January, Steve Jobs commented "We're bigger than Dell", because the market cap had (briefly) overtaken that of Dell. It crossed back under later that week, and the two stayed pretty close to each other for the rest of January. A quick look today shows that market cap for AAPL is $80Bn, while DELL is down to $52Bn -
Re:mainframes rock
Ten years ago when I worked at quote.com we had a E4K (I believe) running part of our site. The power went out one day and I literally had to pick up the server and walk/run with it to the other end of the building so that we could plug it in and get the web site up and running.
After that day, I had some inkling of what they meant when they said "Big Iron". -
Re:Oh, Heavens No!
Please, PLEASE, TiVo, stay with MPEG!
Who said they were dropping MPEG? They've agreed to use RealNetworks technology for music management, not to replace the video codec for recording television programs! -
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A bittersweet experienceAnyone else do this? I go to my Netscape page, check the weather and sports scores, look at my stocks and think, "Well, I lost money again. But at least Eric Raymond lost more!"
Yeah, I'm a bitter person
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Sounds like a good investment
to me - sure, there's all the cynics suspicious of some kind of conspiracy on RHAT's part (I mean, looking at who's top dog, no wonder!) but it seems that the more open source floating around the more they have to fold into a coherent, integrated distro - just like all the other distros, you know, more OSS projects floats everyone's boat, that sail in these waters anyway.
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VA StockThis is way off topic, so feel free to moderate down. However:
In other Andover-related news, the stock of the parent company, VA Linux, dropped below 100 for the first time today. This continues the screaming dive from the high of 320 only last December. How low can it go?
This is to be expected. The initial reaction of the market to VA's IPO could only have been described as (with apologies to Greenspan) irrational exuberance. The only reason they had such a huge first day run-up was because the market thinks Linux is nifty. After it starts to occur to people that in a lot of ways, VA looks suspicously like any other OEM, they'll start to wonder why they threw all that money at it in the first place.
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Buy at IPO or wait?
I'm certain I want to own RHAT, although I don't know much about how strong their service division is and is going to be, the marketing is certainly there.
I plan to try to get the 100 pre-IPO shares that will be offered to select E*Trade members. I believe E*Offerings is co-underwriting the IPO, and will offer up shares to E*Trade customers on a "lottery" basis.
Chances are though that I can't get that magical "$10-12" price that almost no one get. So do I buy at IPO or wait?
I have been keeping an eye on this in Silicon Investor's site (search for Red Hat) and at Quote.com's IPO Edge.
The IPO Edge analysis might be interesting to anyone considering this IPO. RHAT is given an "unfavorable" (-4) rating (range from -5 to 5). The rating appears to be a combination of metrics about how well the lead underwriter has performed in the past, and similar deals/IPOs. The overall rating is a guess of how strong your investment performs after a year.
In general, it looks like the people who "flip" a Goldman Sachs IPO get an average return of 53%, but if the hold on a year the average is 1%.
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3COM stock priceHmm. As an investor in 3com for several years, it's interesting to see how the rest of world views their value. The core of business is pretty sounds and has a lot of potential. They also have good mind share because everyone and their dog has a Palm-Pilot, especially investor types. But as of recent they took a sharp plunge on the market. Announcing anything internet related is always good for a healthly boost in stock price. This can be seen today, I expect 3com to be up about 2 points before the market closes. Even though 3com's development efforts in this area have not been secret, it takes the main stream press (such as WSJ) to make people aware of it.
I doubt it is accidental that they chose to first demonstrate PP7 in New York (aka NYSE). I got a demonstration 4-5 months ago, and I thought it was pretty cool - mostly for it's small size. The PP7 sales price is pretty high thus a limited appeal, but I expect the price to be half that within a year. I can imagine a lot of companies using a PP7 as part of an eletronic tracking system such as used by UPS and other delivery services.